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HP Camaros at Hershey
« on: October 12, 2017, 04:22:10 PM »
Thought I'd post some of the Camaros from Class 36B, High Performance Chevrolet and Oldsmobile.
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HP Camaros at Hershey #2
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2017, 04:24:16 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2017, 04:51:19 PM »
Okay, I'm posting this 68 convertible to make an observation.
It is a 327: yes, with a four barrel, but a PG transmission.  Most of us would say "That's not an HP car with a PG transmission." 
Well, AACA does not consider transmission in determining classes and does consider a 275 hp car to be High Performance.
I spoke with the owner since my 68 is in the same position.  He did get the award he was after, as did my car several years ago.
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey #3
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2017, 05:23:08 PM »
I've had this argument with the Big Dog and got nowhere. A Yenko would also be in this class, or a Z-28 or a 396-375hp. Yenkos belong on the field but they do not belong with REAL production cars. And as you suggest a 275 PG should not be in the same class.
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2017, 10:21:35 PM »
Early big block Vettes with autos got powerglides. Trans doesn't make or break the class, IMO. Choices were limited.
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2017, 03:12:49 AM »
Okay, I'm posting this 68 convertible to make an observation.
It is a 327: yes, with a four barrel, but a PG transmission.  Most of us would say "That's not an HP car with a PG transmission." 
Well, AACA does not consider transmission in determining classes and does consider a 275 hp car to be High Performance.
I spoke with the owner since my 68 is in the same position.  He did get the award he was after, as did my car several years ago.

Phillip,  Did you see many 'unrestored original' Camaros at the Hershey AACA meet?   Does AACA judge unrestored cars separately or right along with 'restored examples'?   If judged together, what guidelines are the judges given ??
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2017, 11:32:15 AM »
Only one car doesn't have spoilers. The Butternut yellow conv. appears to have a yellow interior. Nice cars. Thanks for sharing...Joe
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2017, 02:01:34 PM »
As Doug knows the 327 was originally in class 27, production vehicles. When the HP classes were created a few years ago there was an effort to make a Camaro inclusive class. In the previous class 27 a Z would  be in the same  class as a six banger.
Thus, in the end Kurt is right. Got to put them somewhere.
Unrestored original cars go in HPOF, historic preservation. Drivers are in DPC, driver participation. Both of these classes have different guidelines and are evaluated, not point judged.
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 11:10:03 AM »
Thanks for posting the pictures.  The cars at Hershey this year were awesome!  My car is the butternut 67 convertible with the yellow interior.  Had a great time. 

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« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2017, 11:30:53 AM »
Nice car Bryan...Joe
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 01:21:10 PM »
Wow!!! On the yellow 67, I have never seen a yellow interior in person, they must be rare, beautiful car with the red lines and mag wheel cover. Any more pictures on the interior?

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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2017, 02:19:05 PM »
Phil, do you know how the HP class was determined for Camaros? My '67 will never be on a show field at AACA but I hardly consider it to be HP even though it has 325. I know they have to to decide " something" just not sure they did the right thing. I would hardly feel my car deserves to be with solid lifter cars and Yencos.
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Re: HP Camaros at Hershey
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 12:20:25 PM »
Phil, do you know how the HP class was determined for Camaros? My '67 will never be on a show field at AACA but I hardly consider it to be HP even though it has 325. I know they have to to decide " something" just not sure they did the right thing. I would hardly feel my car deserves to be with solid lifter cars and Yencos.
I know the VP of Judging used a committee, which got input from a variety of other Chevy (and Olds) "experts". Frankly, I was just glad to get the class after years of requests.
You have to remember that setting a class doesn't just have to work into the brand or brands it covers, but it also has to work within the guidelines which work to be inclusive. For example, there were also Chevelles, Impalas, and Olds 442s in 36B at Hershey this year.
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