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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2017, 05:12:44 PM »
11 of the 69 ZL1's  came with the M22 Trans. Super car Registry.
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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2017, 06:47:15 PM »
Possibly.

A few of the ZL1s the list shows as having an M22 do not have paperwork and were restored starting with nothing more than a body. There are 7 for sure.
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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 07:41:46 PM »
how many 1969 L78 with M20 trans?

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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 08:00:10 PM »
Since you guys use some numbers I have not heard, does anyone know how many 69 L78 automatic,s were made.
I have always heard 10% of the 4889 number as a guess. I remember back in the 69 L78 auto Novas seemed to be on a lot of car lots.
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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 11:03:07 PM »
Through end of Sept: 530 L78's with M20 trans.

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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2017, 11:06:39 PM »
Through the end of Sept: 816 L78's with Turbo 400's.

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 02:34:30 AM »
Since you guys use some numbers I have not heard, does anyone know how many 69 L78 automatic,s were made.
I have always heard 10% of the 4889 number as a guess. I remember back in the 69 L78 auto Novas seemed to be on a lot of car lots.
We have one of those 69 L78 Turbo400 Nova's and ordered it in Feb. 69. The dealer did not have much info at the time on the automatics if memory serves me but recently read in Hemmings Muscle Machines 1,411 L78 Automatic Nova's were built in 69.
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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 05:36:41 AM »
Total Automatics (M40) with L78 for 69 Nova is: 1,009.

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #23 on: January 27, 2017, 01:06:56 PM »
If Transmission usuage is known would be nice to see a official pie diagram or something under  the box labelled ' transmission' in the opening page

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2017, 07:08:13 PM »
Through end of Sept: 530 L78's with M20 trans.
would you know how many L78's came with 410's?

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2017, 04:36:05 PM »
If you know what ECL code was used with the L78/4.10 combination, I can give you a number.

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2017, 01:51:56 AM »
If you are referring to Camaro, there are at least 9 ECLs for a 4.10 axle ratio, none specific to the L78. Later COPOs spec'd a 4.10 axle on docs and have the same ECLs.
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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #27 on: February 01, 2017, 04:26:03 PM »
yes for 1969 Camaro, where is this info posted on ECL's?

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #28 on: February 01, 2017, 05:11:49 PM »
yes for 1969 Camaro, where is this info posted on ECL's?

It isn't and may never be. Kurt and I have been working on this for many years and have figured out some of it. ECLs are highly sensitive to option content and were likely used to generate engineering bills of material, pricing, and labor content for production scheduling. Also, they changed over the model year. The engineering content for the 12 COPO 9737 ECLs has been known for decades. From a engineering bom standpoint, several of them are identical. Something else must be involved.

There's a lot to learn. D55 has at least 19 ECLs, 30 for Z22. That we know what some of them are makes it easy to spot reproduction paperwork when it is presented as original. There is a Z/28 currently on ebay with a reproduction window sticker advertised as being original.

Kurt is also working on Broadcast Copies.

We need original paperwork to keep working on this. If you have an original window sticker or broadcast copy please share it with us. They are for our reference only; we don't circulate them. Also, if you have acquired NCRS shipping info for your car, the VIN and production date is useful for production calendar research.

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Re: 1969 M22 breakdown of Quantities
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2017, 03:44:28 AM »
I don't think ECL codes should ever be posted. It would also be close to impossible to decode them without almost a full list of all models and options for a full production year. ECL codes vary based on families of options and other factors and as stated do change at times through the calendar year.
Just a few interesting facts to further exemplify the laborious task of decoding ECL's. IN 1969 C60 air conditioning contains more than 50 ECL codes, a simple item like N33 contains 15 different codes, N34 wood wheel more than 25 codes and on and on.

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