Interesting period photos.... :)

[69Z28-RS]

http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148486

The link above is from the Trifive forum, but the first post in that thread shows 3 very interested *period* photos from the '70s... Yes, there's one or more first gen Camaros depicted..

Gary

[camaro jock]

Love the name, it says it all, nice wheel flairs on the 67, NICE FIND thanks for the memories Darrell

[ko-lek-tor]

thanks for the memories Darrell

Gary too! 
Well, thanks Darrell too, I guess?! , but thanks again GARY!

[group/7]

not sure if this is the spot for this, VW ad with '69 Camaro. not sure what time frame, but looks to be the psychedelic '70s.

Mike (group/7)

[lakeholme]

not sure if this is the spot for this, VW ad with '69 Camaro. not sure what time frame, but looks to be the psychedelic '70s.

Mike (group/7)

That's a 69 VW ad for their used car warranty with a 69 Camaro in "very special paint". 

As I recall, the moon was in the seventh house and Jupiter was aligned with Mars!   

[BULLITT65]

I was to young to have known Bill Parker 4 speeds, but I have driven past that spot a bunch of times. I have seen those photos published on another site where they broke down what each car had for a power train. Very interesting stuff

[cook_dw]

As I recall, the moon was in the seventh house and Jupiter was aligned with Mars!   

Age of Aaaaquariiiiuuuuuus!!!

[group/7]

reprint of a '69 ZL1 test from the New York Times, published  may 27th. 2012.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/27/automobiles/testing-the-pack-alpha-of-muscle-cars.html?_r=0


Mike (group/7)

[janobyte]

As I recall, the moon was in the seventh house and Jupiter was aligned with Mars!   

Age of Aaaaquariiiiuuuuuus!!!

I was on the assembly line during that time frame....Cook wasn't even in clay yet!

[cook_dw]

And yet I knew what it was...

[janobyte]

hehe

[dale_z28]

I've got the tailgate off that Stude pickup (last pic) hanging in my family rom over the fireplace! Well, maybe a similar one...

[69Z28-RS]

I've got the tailgate off that Stude pickup (last pic) hanging in my family rom over the fireplace! Well, maybe a similar one...

Seriously?    have ya got pix? 

[dale_z28]

I'll get one tonight. Was going to make a bench seat-back out of it, but it's got some flaky rust and I think it's better-off as a looker than a "toucher"

[dale_z28]

The picture is not cooperating! Wants to rotate for some reason...

[69Z28-RS]

Hey!   not rotated here, and it looks great...  like an 'interior designer' hung it up there.. 

[dale_z28]

she did!! Told me right where to put it!

[69Z28-RS]

I like it .. but it would really be appropriate if your last name was Studebaker....   

[dale_z28]

Wouldn't it though?

[group/7]

 looks like a 70 & 1/2, any ideas ? looks like Jersey tags. looking at some of the signage, my first thought was Australia. but it's a left drive car.
Mike (group/7)

(unattributed photo)

[group/7]

This looks like a Yenko clone, striping is not quite right.

[aerialpacer]

My grandfather used to have that car.

[group/7]

Radical kustom Camaro, looks to be a '69   

[BULLITT65]

thats to bad. All that time and money to chop, channel, and section. What year was that taken?

[group/7]

Looking at the cars in the background, I would guess '80s  ?

[JKZ27]

I'd say mid to late 90's. Judging by the Sunfire and the 4th gen Camaro.

That 68/69 reminds me of one I saw in a magazine a long time ago that had a mid engine(behind the seats) 455 or something.

[group/7]

I think this is a '67 ? not sure when or where  the photo was taken.

[BULLITT65]

That is the Waldo tunnel from SF to Marin. The rainbows were painted in about 1970, in order to brighten up the roadways.

[Petes L48]

Tunnel appears to be around San Francisco

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/20/robin-williams-tunnel-waldo-san-francisco/14342967/

[group/7]

They're looking happy with the new ride, looks like Ohio tags.   

[BULLITT65]

I would to see more guys run those hub caps now a days.

Those wheel covers would stand out in a sea of rally wheels

[group/7]

Berger Chevrolet bill board with '67 Camaro.

[68L30]

Great looking 68, Bet it’s a Hugger Month car.... Except for the RS , reminds me of the Custom Camaro ad.

Steve

[lynnbilodeau]

The picture is not cooperating! Wants to rotate for some reason...

Nice.  Studebakers rock.   My 53 Commander has a lock up torque converer.  What year did GM finally get around to that?  83?  84?

[group/7]

tail lights look to be from a '68 Coronet, split rear window, and those flares      

Mike

[BULLITT65]

wow, what year was that taken?

[camaroboy68ss]

wow, what year was that taken?

good question, I was thinking the same thing. Has to be mid to late 70's. I know that kind of custom work was big in northwest around that window.

[firstgenaddict]

The REAR USA 1 TAG is from the mid 70's - I believe 75-76.

[Jon Mello]

It says Cheap Trick on the tail light panel and that group did not become popular until 1979-1980.

[DeanZ10]

My first SS. Think the pic is from Fall 19 ya 78. Do idea what the tag said or the Vin#. Had black deluxe comfort weave interior rosewood dash and steering wheel, tach and gauges. 350 4 spd. Rear mounted antenna with short spoiler. No air.
Got caught out in snow coming home from my job a grocery store bagger. 35 mph, flipped upside down in ditch. Crushed front passenger front fender and pilar post and roof...though not terribly bad. Could have been fixed, but sold it for parts....Loved those Western Wheels.

[HawkX66]

My first SS. Think the pic is from Fall 19 ya 78. Do idea what the tag said or the Vin#. Had black deluxe comfort weave interior rosewood dash and steering wheel, tach and gauges. 350 4 spd. Rear mounted antenna with short spoiler. No air.
Got caught out in snow coming home from my job a grocery store bagger. 35 mph, flipped upside down in ditch. Crushed front passenger front fender and pilar post and roof...though not terribly bad. Could have been fixed, but sold it for parts....Loved those Western Wheels.

Great pic! Sorry to hear about the crash... Looked like a hell of nice machine.

[DeanZ10]

What I would do to have her back..lol..Bought it for $2000.00... lol Wish I had at least kept something with the vin#. I assume it was X55 and must have been early. May not have even had x code. Oh well.
Wish I had known what I know now..right? Lol. It was a beautiful car at the time. I was 16..lot of good memories in the year or so I had it....I guess the pic would be from 79. So began the camaro disease.

[DeanZ10]

Another tidy bit.  I fixed up another camaro and used these wheels. It was dark gray primer.  Sold it someone around the Gastonia or Charlotte area...I think winter of 87 or spring of 88 before I got married. If anyone in that area remembers this car please let me know...

[SMS]

Mom's car 67-75

[group/7]

New Butternut Yellow '67 SS350 

[JoeC]

I think this is the "California " 67 Camaro show car at an auto expo

[169INDY]

1968 Link
http://cdm17061.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/search/collection/p17061coll21/searchterm/camaro/order/places


South Tacoma Motor Company's second showroom with customers admiring 1968 Chevrolets

Jim

[69Z28-RS]

New Butternut Yellow '67 SS350 

Can't you just hear this lady telling her dog... 

 "You will be this close to going to a new home if you EVER jump up on my new Camaro!"

[JoeC]

there is some cool 1st gen stuff on you tube
I posted some before but this one was new to me

1967 slot cars and 67 Camaros and stuff

1967 CHEVROLET DRIVER'S EDUCATION FILM "BE AN A*C*E DRIVER"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2-uf0hazLE

[group/7]

I would guess this is the same Butternut yellow '67 RS as in my earlier post, same dog, by the garage.

[JoeC]

it is amazing what those google spiders can find

1967 SS Camaro Bonanza

[JoeC]

'68 Youngmobiles

Young it up specials

non SS with a nose stripe

[BULLITT65]

it is amazing what those google spiders can find

1967 SS Camaro Bonanza

And not a rally wheel to be seen...😳😁

[JoeC]

you want rally wheels , we got rally wheels

[JoeC]

for a good deal see "Volume Ben"  Lamb

pace car

[x66 714]

Pin striped tires appears to be popular in advertising back then...Joe

[BULLITT65]

Interesting a SS, with the cowl hood. To bad chevy didn't break down the numbers more. I would have liked to know how many SS cars were ordered with that hood, vs Z/28.

[67conv6cyl]

All paces cars had them and that looks like a pace car in the picture!

[BULLITT65]

Your right duh!
the black and white through me off. But I believe would have been the only way to get those stripes. Maybe the endura bumper also got me.

[BillG]

Still a good question.  I think William broke it down sometime ago but, I can't seem to find that post.

[BULLITT65]

I thought William broke down how many were left after the Z/10, and Z/11. Which was like 5300 roughly, to divide up between SS and Z/28.

[william]

Hard to pin down how many Z10s in the mix; estimated to be 350-450. There were 10,026 ZL2 hoods; subtract 3,675 Z11s and 400 Z10s leaves 5,951 hoods to divide up between Z/28s and the remainder of SS production. There were more SS built than Z/28s so it is likely SS installation was higher.

Of the remainder, guessing SS 3,764, Z/28 2,187. Don't take it to the bank.

[x66 714]

What about the COPOs?...Joe

[BULLITT65]

Thanks for the rough breakdown William. I would have though less SS since they came with a decorative hood as part of the package, but I will go with your gut. You have probably forgotten more about first gens than I know. 
I think it was explained COPO didn't figure in to that number, and was separate since it was called out differently for that car.

[JoeC]

I don't know if has been proven but some say the first production cowl hoods were on the ZL1 Camaros

Chevy promised Fred Gibb and Dick Harrell they would get one by the end of the year and it arrived on Dec 31 , 1968

The number one ZL1 had its cowl hood changed to a fiberglass hood 

this road test article of the two ZL1s , shows number one and said the other ZL 1 is number 5 and it had 25 miles on it when picked up to drive it to the drag strip   
both were dusk blue

[BULLITT65]

So was the other hood pictured the fiberglass? is that a somewhat forced air hood? (looks a bit fancy for racing)

[william]

What about the COPOs?...Joe

Certain options were included in the total only when they are listed in the vehicle build record. ZL2 was included with COPOs 9560 & 9561 and does not appear in build records [or documents] for those cars. So, not counted. At this time, the earliest known ZL2 installation is a Z/28 at the Van Nuys plant.

BTW COPO build records for both list the L78 engine. The 'official' L78 build total of 4,889 is overstated by 1,066.

[x66 714]

What about the COPOs?...Joe

Certain options were included in the total only when they are listed in the vehicle build record. ZL2 was included with COPOs 9560 & 9561 and does not appear in build records [or documents] for those cars. So, not counted. At this time, the earliest known ZL2 installation is a Z/28 at the Van Nuys plant.

BTW COPO build records for both list the L78 engine. The 'official' L78 build total of 4,889 is overstated by 1,066.

Thank you...Joe

[group/7]

'69 Camaros, SS Nova, and looks like an El Camino on the left, maybe So Cal ?

[68L30]

Harry Mann plate frame on the 2... 
 
Steve

[group/7]

Thanks Steve, missed that  Harry Mann were in L.A., found another image, same Nova, and a RS on the left.

[BULLITT65]

that blue RS/SS is sharp

[KurtS]

And the tailpanel says it's a SS396 car. Notice it's not glossy.

[JoeC]

"lets all sit on my Camaro for a photo" 

[JoeC]

"lets all sit on my Camaro for a photo"  2

[JoeC]

found this  photo

The Chevy Show truck semi trailer can be seen in the back

 I think it's from Canada because I looked up "cine sphere 3" and says .....

"It's Expo 1967 in Montreal Canada and multi-screen film presentations are the rage of the renowned international fair.  Canadian entrepreneurs and filmmakers Graeme Ferguson, Roman Kroitor, and Robert Kerr actually produced some of the films being shown, but made a decision to create a single projector/screen motion picture system which would equal or surpass the grandeur of the cumbersome multi-camera systems.  IMAX® corporation was born."

[BULLITT65]

Looks like 6 identical V8 RS vinyl top cars, but what role were those gentleman?

[69Z28-RS]

....  maybe they were giving 'test rides' and they were the drivers? 

[JoeC]

here is another interesting photo

I have seen special paint orange 1968 Camaros with orange rally wheels but I never saw a 1967

don't know if this is original paint but the car looks new

looks like an SS RS 396

[69Z28-RS]

I've never seen or heard of 'special paint' applying to Rallye Wheels... ??  so my suspicion is that the wheels are/were painted orange by the owner at some point.

[JoeC]

I don't know if it has been documented that the wheels were painted with the special paint color on Camaros.
I think they may have been.

I know of a 1968 Z/28 special paint orange that was bought new with the 5 rally wheels painted orange

Chevelles come with a nice build sheet and have seen special paint with the wheels painted and it is documented on the build sheet

There are special paint taxi police fire military etc cars and trucks and some came with the small hub caps and the wheels were same color as the car

[JoeC]

here is a 67 SS 350 convertible full wheel covers
looks to be an early car with no 350 emblem under the Camaro fender emblem

[68 Ragtop]

here is another interesting photo

I have seen special paint orange 1968 Camaros with orange rally wheels but I never saw a 1967

don't know if this is original paint but the car looks new

looks like an SS RS 396

Cool. It's even got orange stripe tires instead of the normal red stripe tires.

Unless, of course, the car is really red and appears orange because it's an old faded photograph that has been scanned and then viewed on a computer monitor.

[JoeC]

I have some assembly line photos that I saved from google and FB searches
some of them have been posted
 they are interesting for their details

roof drop

[JoeC]

under hood

[JoeC]

front end

[JoeC]

bumper

[JoeC]

exhaust system

[JoeC]

roof

[69Z28-RS]

Are all those '67 production photos from the LA/VN plant?

[JoeC]

I forgot that some of the pics are posted here

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

here is the color one of the exhaust system install

[KurtS]

I forgot that some of the pics are posted here http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

here is the color one of the exhaust system install

Actually all of those pictures (or a different take) are posted there.
That's not just the exhaust system install, that's getting ready for body drop.

[JoeC]

I have not looked at the Assembly CRG Research Report in a while
It is well done

there are so many pictures on the net , its hard to tell what has been posted already

here is shipping pic , not sure if it has been posted on here

[JoeC]

How a Blind Auto Shop Teacher Saw His First Camaro

 interesting 67 Camaro picture with article on the Hot Rod Mag Camaro

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/blind-auto-shop-teacher-saw-first-camaro/

[JoeC]

thought this is an interesting photo

Pete Estes in a 67 convertible at the GM proving ground

it has been said that Pete liked convertibles and this was a reason given to build the 1968 Z/28 convertible

[BillG]

That's a cool pic of Estes, Joe.  Never seen that one before.

[group/7]

wired Camaro     

(photo: Bruce Ford..Road & Track April 1977)

[firstgenaddict]

I don't know if it has been documented that the wheels were painted with the special paint color on Camaros.
I think they may have been.

I know of a 1968 Z/28 special paint orange that was bought new with the 5 rally wheels painted orange

Chevelles come with a nice build sheet and have seen special paint with the wheels painted and it is documented on the build sheet

There are special paint taxi police fire military etc cars and trucks and some came with the small hub caps and the wheels were same color as the car

There are multiple Centennial Chevelles which have their SS wheels painted GOLD per the build sheet instructions SO yes the Camaro could have had it's wheels painted orange at the factory.

[group/7]

I have this photo in my files of a '67 with body coloured wheels. I'm not sure when that might have been taken, looks period ? Has California black plates.

Mike

[group/7]

'67 RS/SS, vinyl, discs...Niagara Dragway 

[group/7]

'67 SS in snow..Oregon tags   

Military (Airforce ?) w '67 SS/RS with dic brakes..... '68 Montana

Life was just..........better !

[william]

I don't know if has been proven but some say the first production cowl hoods were on the ZL1 Camaros

this road test article of the two ZL1s , shows number one and said the other ZL 1 is number 5 and it had 25 miles on it when picked up to drive it to the drag strip   
both were dusk blue

The complete history of the ZL-1 engine project at Chevrolet is being researched; the author for this famous track test was interviewed. He stated the test took place on an unusually warm day in late January, 1969. The street ZL-1 Camaro used was definitely the #2 car. The #5 ZL-1 was final-assembled on or about March 4, 1969. Several original photographs from the article were obtained, one showing the #2 car parked in Dick Harrell's shop. A wall calendar set to January 1969 is seen in the photo.

There has been some controversy concerning #5 as raced by Shay Nichols. Period photos show it with a white standard interior; all 50 Fred Gibb ZL-1s had black standard interiors. Gibb dealership records show #5 was sold to Phil and Shay Nichols on May 7, 1969. Obviously, had an interior swap. Last known owner claims it was beyond repair and was junked. #2 still exists.

[x77-69z28]

New Butternut Yellow '67 SS350 

I had the same car. Mine had disc brakes so came with rally wheels. Bought it from the original owner in 84. Sold it to a buddy of mine in 2017. Shoulda kept it!

[group/7]

NIckey '67 Camaro & hauler 

[group/7]

'69 Z/28 ? ? street machine. repaint ? no stripes, could you order that moulding with out the vinyl roof ?.

Mike

[william]

Two-tone '69s used the same basic molding.

Post corrected.

[group/7]

Thanks for the reply on the roof moulding.

How did I type 67 instead of '69 for the red car  can't seem to change it ?

Mike

[group/7]

Happy Thanksgiving !

[group/7]

69 Camaro on '71 ? Michigan tags.

[Z10Mike]

Yup...those were the days...

[starcruser]

 I love this pic! My dad had a Camaro just like this one. The same color too. I even love the dog greatting it's master!

[169INDY]

She is 71 y/o now (Possibly)

[group/7]

Time for a cold one after a hot drive !

[169INDY]

Um, I love a "Rain-Dog" in the late afternoon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[group/7]

Alaska tags, flares & sun roofs !

[usa1ti]

My first 1968 taken in 1985. Tried several times but never got a 427 to run as good as that motor and could never get a 68 to sit like that again. I've not gave up yet though...

[group/7]

bumble bee w '69 SS are those wheel covers factory ? scroll l-r for whole image.

[169INDY]

COOL Wide Tread Letter size tires, & Caps on painted wheel, Very few get restored that way

[group/7]

Another yellow Camaro, this one set up for rallying are those Michigan tags ? can't seem to get it smaller, scroll l-r for full image.

[group/7]

looks new, judging by the cars in the back ground, '69 Butter Nut yellow, with vinyl and rally wheels.

[group/7]

Wonder what the story was here ? looks to have come off the road, is that a electrical company guy on the left, wires are down,

Wonder where that is ? you can see a tag on the Cougar.

Mike

[SMKZ28]

Wonder what the story was here ? looks to have come off the road, is that a electrical company guy on the left, wires are down,

Wonder where that is ? you can see a tag on the Cougar.

Mike

Looks like it ran smack dab into a pole.  Not sure of location but it surely isn't here in the midwest.  There are mountains in the background.  Notice the car has different front and rear wheels.  Fatter rubber in the back.

[jeff68]

Here is my 68 L30/M20, Ash Gold.  Photo taken day of delivery, July 6, 1968:

[BULLITT65]

looks exactly like your Avatar. Great preservation . 🙂

[jeff68]

looks exactly like your Avatar. Great preservation . 🙂

Thanks!

[rich69rs]

Found this while cleaning out some old files...not a Camaro picture, but still of the general period.

Richard

[group/7]

'75-'77 ? ? Camaro 

[MO]

Not sure which year, but interesting mirror color. I would have thought they'd be body color. The hood ornament is a nice touch though.

[group/7]

'69 w 307 and vinyl top.

Mike

[Vince]

I like the look of the double white stripes on the tires. 

[uscrichter]

Wow! I know this group is getting old when the last two comments are only about mirrors and tires! LOL

[169INDY]

Well we are on our best behavior, that there set of "Gals" are someone's 70 y/o Grandma nowadays.

Nice Barn-Shed,,,,,,,,

[group/7]

'68 SS/RS convertible, wire wheel covers,  it looks like it might have a rear spoiler ?

[ric1969]

 Yes, front and rear spoilers very nice.

[group/7]

Debra Harry (Blondie) w '67 Camaro.

[VINCE Z28]

Come on guys....We might be old but were not dead yet.....Vince

[group/7]

Trophy girl with '67 SS.

[group/7]

This looks like it could be a shoot for one of those high school year book ads, temp tag and El Camino on the right.

Having worked in a GM plant on inspection that trunk fit doesn't look good !


Are those wheel covers factory for '67s ?

[69Z28-RS]

Here are a couple of photos of my '69 Z28-RS with an early owner (Cindy in 1973)...

[MO]

Cindy had great taste and jealous boys around her I'm sure.

[MO]

This looks like it could be a shoot for one of those high school year book ads, temp tag and El Camino on the right.

Having worked in a GM plant on inspection that trunk fit doesn't look good !


Are those wheel covers factory for '67s ?

Agreed, poor trunk lid fitment, and yes looks like factory wheel covers.

[group/7]

Couldn't find a subject on assorted cars in the foreign Camaros thread, so put it here.

'68 327 ? RS in Europe ? can any body tell what country the tag is from ?

(Photo: no credit)

[group/7]

Not a photo, but interesting article on a '68 Camaro with a 427, didn't know where else to put it 

Motor Trend online, Oct. 2019

Mike

https://www.motortrend.com/features/1047435/

[group/7]

Here's a cool pic of a '69 Z spoiler delete, Socal, '68 "Dyno Tune" Camaro in the back ground. looks in period.

Can't get it smaller, scroll l-r 

Mike

[group/7]

I always liked the atmosphere in this photo 

Hard to tell, is it a stripe delete car ?

(photo: Car Life magazine June, '69)

[Fanthomgreen69]

Re: reply143. That picture is of my Navy buddy Jim’s Z /28 from an earlier post of mine.  It was, according to him, the 6th Z/28 off of the Los Angeles assembly line. He sold the car back in the 70’s, but still has the original window sticker. I do have a copy. Don’t know what happened to the car. Did Google search of VIN, but no luck.  It was such an early car.The headrests were an option. Don’t know if the spoilers were deleted or just weren’t ordered.  Thx for posting
Charles

[william]

Spoilers were not included with Z/28 equipment until April 1, 1969. The Car Life Z/28 was not built with them; they were added for the test. It did have stripes.

As in other vintage photos of VN built Z/28s, the tailpipes appear to be painted black.

Let's see that window sticker.

[Fanthomgreen69]

Here is a picture of the window sticker
Charles

[BULLITT65]

Just a 158 before mine (124379L503829). I am surprised it would be the 6th Z off the line though, since my car is a 10B, and I thought they had been making them for over a month at that point. I wonder how he came to that conclusion?

[David K]

CORTEX Silver?

[william]

CORTEX Silver?

Could have also had the optional interior.

[william]

Just a 158 before mine (124379L503829). I am surprised it would be the 6th Z off the line though, since my car is a 10B, and I thought they had been making them for over a month at that point. I wonder how he came to that conclusion?

It was just puffery, a statement made with no basis in fact.

My info, gathered over many years, has 21 VN Z/28s with a lower VIN. That works out to 0.6% so it is safe to say there were plenty more.

Thanks for the pic Charles!

[HOT3O2]

Why would it have 2 axles listed on the sheet (373 and 410)

[169INDY]

One lists the Posi and the Other the Ratio?
G80/G84

[group/7]

Charles, thanks for your reply ! I tried to go back and credit you with the photo, can't seem to do it ? I found it long ago, and came

 across it in my disorganized file on my lap top.

What a cool photo, I'm sure it is a treasured memory for you and your navy buddy ! where was that taken in California , I see some

 aircraft in the back ground ? Is there a link with you to the "Dyno Tune" Camaro in the photo as well ?

Mike

[group/7]

William, thanks for your reply and info  concerning the Car Life magazine photo of the '69 Z on a desert run. I have that magazine,

 but couldn't get to it before posting.

Mike

[HOT3O2]

One lists the Posi and the Other the Ratio?
G80/G84

But isn’t listing 2 different ratios? 373 and 410

[169INDY]

I believe the STD Ratio avail contented with the Z28 was 3.73, so It would appear G80/3.73 would cover line cost of the Posi, then the RPO Upgrade optional avail at an added Additional Cost was the G84/4.10

[BULLITT65]

Correct Jim you beat me to it.

[Fanthomgreen69]

Group/7 Went back and found the original thread I started back in March  2018. It tells the story from my friend Jim’s recollection of how he purchased the car. I think it is pretty interesting reading
The picture was taken @ the San Fernando Drag Strip in the Spring of 1969.
Charles

[group/7]

Charles thanks for your reply, here's the link to that thread on your friends silver spoiler delete car, interesting read.

Mike

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=16255.0

[group/7]

'69 Z, wet street. looks to be mid '70s ?  judging by the cars in the background.

Side pipes, Cragars ? and a hood tach or some other gauge, those were the days !

[group/7]

Another 69 with side pipes, he's ready ! got the winter boots on ! those snows back in the day were like tractor tires 

[group/7]

Is this a Camaro ?  looks like a drag car with custom paint. and what engine is in it ? there is a full size  '69 Chevy right rear, and

 what looks like a '69 Camaro on the left just above the roof.

once again scroll l-r for full image 

[MO]

Looks like a 69 non RS grille. Really custom paint; Z stripes, nose stripe, some sort of panel paint layout on the roof and maybe some striping on the side.

[169INDY]

Interesting Period photo reprinted in Old Cars Weekly in the 80's-90's

[group/7]

staying with that theme, I don't think this ended well  snowy roads played into it I think.

What are the wheels on the rear of the Camaro ?

[group/7]

Hunter-Henry Motors, Bethany, Missouri, w '67 Camaro.

Once again scroll l-r for full image 

[usa1ti]

staying with that theme, I don't think this ended well  snowy roads played into it I think.

What are the wheels on the rear of the Camaro ?

I think those are Fenton Hawks. Possibly a later Keystone Knockoff. Hard to tell for sure, picture get grainy when you zoom in.

[MO]

That wheel looks good, but the wheel on the Camaro looks like the spokes come to a point at the center.

[396 SS/RS]

My first Camaro, 1970 Circa 1975...

[group/7]

Tech editor Jim Grey of Autodriver magazine with '68 Z/28, from the February 1969 issue.

[group/7]

Looks to be a pre-production prototype ? no wheel covers or trim rings & centre caps.

(GM photo)

[BULLITT65]

And hockey stripe continues on lower valance

[cook_dw]

As did early production cars.

[group/7]

1967 SS/RS family    any idea on the tags ?

[group/7]

'67 'vert at the ski hill, look to be the same wheels on the rear as in my previous post #166 on the crashed car ?

[MO]

From that angle it's hard to tell definitively, but it could very well be a match. The center cap does look larger though which might fill the gap to match the wheel in post 168 better. How weird to find those two pics of cars with that type wheel on the rear and what looks like black wheels on the front! It would not be as ironic if they were TT's or Cragar's.

[usa1ti]

Fenton also made a Super Shark which had a slightly different center. Either way I think they are some version of a Fenton wheel.

[cook_dw]

Also similar to drag mags or Indy 500's.

[Vince]

1967 SS/RS family    any idea on the tags ?

Maybe Washington, D.C. or military. 

[Petes L48]

1967 SS/RS family    any idea on the tags ?

Maybe Washington, D.C. or military. 

Yeah that bumper sticker reminds me of old military base permits

[69Z28-RS]

1967 SS/RS family    any idea on the tags ?

Maybe Washington, D.C. or military. 

Yeah that bumper sticker reminds me of old military base permits

That's probably exactly what it is..      One was supposed to remove those decals when cars were traded or sold, but many/most didn't do so..  This one on my car was put on in 1976 or so...

[MO]

I mounted mine on a piece of plexiglass and had it on the dash when I went on base. Some of the sentry guards didn't like it, but I was never ordered to put the sticker on the bumper. Back then I shaved all emblems, decals, dealer plates and emblems for a clean look. Today, I treasure them.

[BillGarrett]

i Still like the good old fashioned slots.

[396 SS/RS]

i Still like the good old fashioned slots.

My son bought a '66 Impala fastback that came with unilug slot mags on it. took them off and put a set of rally wheels on it.

[group/7]

67 RS Camaro ( I wonder if it's a real Z ? a lot of people added the emblems) at Duke's Italian,  any one know where that might

 have been ? I would say it's the late 70's- '80s.

[boomer632]

https://www.facebook.com/DukesBeef/photos

[group/7]

boomer632 thanks for the info re: Duke's Beef. !

[FRANKTHECRANK]

67 RS Camaro ( I wonder if it's a real Z ? a lot of people added the emblems) at Duke's Italian,  any one know where that might

 have been ? I would say it's the late 70's- '80s.

Considering 67 Zs only had 302 emblems on the fenders, it's definitely not a stock emblem from the factory. Whether it was a Z28 and he installed 68 Z28 emblems on it, or just pretending it's a Z is anybody's guess.

[x66 714]

67 RS Camaro ( I wonder if it's a real Z ? a lot of people added the emblems) at Duke's Italian,  any one know where that might

 have been ? I would say it's the late 70's- '80s.

Considering 67 Zs only had 302 emblems on the fenders, it's definitely not a stock emblem from the factory. Whether it was a Z28 and he installed 68 Z28 emblems on it, or just pretending it's a Z is anybody's guess.

1967 Z/28s had no emblems. 1968 used 302 emblems early. In about March 68 Z/28 emblems were used.....Joe

[169INDY]

The Car in Reply #186 was in Print in the 1980 Camaro Mags I believe the Base color is Brite Yellow.

[FRANKTHECRANK]

67 RS Camaro ( I wonder if it's a real Z ? a lot of people added the emblems) at Duke's Italian,  any one know where that might

 have been ? I would say it's the late 70's- '80s.

Considering 67 Zs only had 302 emblems on the fenders, it's definitely not a stock emblem from the factory. Whether it was a Z28 and he installed 68 Z28 emblems on it, or just pretending it's a Z is anybody's guess.

1967 Z/28s had no emblems. 1968 used 302 emblems early. In about March 68 Z/28 emblems were used.....Joe

I knew the early 68s had the 302 emblems, and went to the Z28 emblems later, but for some reason I thought the 302 was carried over from 67. My mistake, thanks for the info.

[MO]

67 Z's were very unassuming.

[x66 714]

67 Z's were very unassuming.

Like a dog that doesn't bark before it bites

[MO]

Good analogy.

[Fanthomgreen69]

Found these images of my 1st Z/28. Purchased in the summer of '69. Sold it in 1973 when the gas crisis hit. Regreted it ever since, like a lot of guys.
Charles

[169INDY]

WOW! ^^ Great reference for a bunch of Details

[group/7]

Screen grab from TV series " Kolchak...The Night Stalker" ran '74-'75 on ABC, internet find some where.

[group/7]

1969 Yenko SC     as always no matter what I do can't get it smaller  scroll l-r for full image.

Found a second pic in my files, might have been here before ? same car has the same tags but looks 80s, some one must know this

 car ?

Mike

[MO]

Hard to tell, but the top pic looks like it may still have original tires. The bottom pic has tires from the late 70's? I know I had them on a couple C3 Corvettes in the early 80's. What a cool license plate!

[group/7]

Here's a '69 Z at the press launch for '69 models at the GM proving grounds. I'd posted this in another thread here also in

reference to stripes carrying onto the deck lid on cars with spoilers.

Would this be a pilot car ?

[william]

That is likely N500003, a Pilot built on a '68 floor pan. No body tag. Hard to believe they sold it.

[MO]

Interesting, I wonder why it took so long to get the longer spoiler considering this early model?

[Z10Mike]

Does that spoiler look a bit taller than the production intent part? 

[169INDY]

Here is a Link of a early ? (D80) (NC8) 1969 Z28 LOS/VN Car with Vintage photos to add to the Mess.

https://www.motortrend.com/news/vintage-dragstrip-test-of-iconic-1969-chevrolet-camaro-z28/?galleryimageid=7745d20c-4569-42b7-ba49-2d26a1afd947

Looks like they did not even paint it to the AIM also. Rear picture with a sliver view of the Back of the Spoiler.

Jim

[group/7]

probably late 70's or early '80s ? when did that style of GPZ Kawasakis came out ?

Once again scroll l-r for full image.

[group/7]

'69 RS Z/28,interesting what's been done with the stripes ! no front bumper, grill surround blacked out, day 2 mods, could be '80s.

[group/7]

Here's a '69 Z, this is at Lions Drag Strip, logo on the side says "Beach City Chevrolet" where they in Long Beach,

 California ? sponsored some funny cars ? Sorry for the size found this image years ago on Worthpoint, came across it clearing

 some old files on my computer. Looks like spoiler delete car ?

Mike

[MO]

No spoiler delete. More likely it was built before spoilers (RPO D80) were included with the 1969 Z/28 package. Prior to that they were optional for 68-69. 

Yes, Beach City Chevrolet was located in Long Beach, CA.

[CantRepeat]

Here's a '69 Z, this is at Lions Drag Strip, logo on the side says "Beach City Chevrolet" where they in Long Beach,

 California ? sponsored some funny cars ? Sorry for the size found this image years ago on Worthpoint, came across it clearing

 some old files on my computer. Looks like spoiler delete car ?

Mike

Beach City Chevrolet was in California. I grew up in North Long Beach and Lions Drag Strip was awesome.

[group/7]

MO thanks for the clarification on the '69 spoilers, I'd forgotten that fact !

CantRepeat, thanks for your memory of those times.

[group/7]

Here's a '67 SS/RS converible at a dealers in the UK, is that a 327 logo on the fender ?

Looks like a right hand drive conversion.

(photo: Ken Hyndman)

[boomer632]

Gotta be at least at 350 to get the SS badging / stripes no?

[MO]

That's a pretty cool photo! I agree on the 350 because of the seemingly SS items. It sure looks like it's new in the showroom!

[group/7]

Thanks boomer & MO for the info re: SS option and 350 engine.

Would the right hand drive conversion be done state side or in the UK ?

[David K]

SS, right hand drive, RS too. What’s not to love about it?

[MO]

As far as I know, cars were converted by an importer or local builder that specialized in such after overseas delivery.

[group/7]

Fred Gibb, '67 Z/28 and Yenko "Mr. Chevrolet" flopper/funny car  any idea what track this would be, and who are the three in the

 middle ?

Mike

[169INDY]

Herb Fox
Fred Gibb
Dick Harrell

Not SUre Guessing

[group/7]

Butternut yellow ? 67 with vinyl, Virginia International Raceway, 1971.

Once again scroll l-r for full image 

[VINCE Z28]

 The track picture, Dick Harrell is to the right. Fred Gibb in the middle and not sure about the guy to the left.

[MO]

Very cool pic! I hope those kids are all still friends! Yes, the Camaro looks like Butternut Yellow with Gold interior, possibly Yellow.

[group/7]

'68 Z/28 1/4 mile car, Red Deer, Alberta, Canada. looks to be back in the day ?

the way the driver is looking,the  other car must be ahead, or in his mirror.

[SMKZ28]

Here's a '69 Z, this is at Lions Drag Strip, logo on the side says "Beach City Chevrolet" where they in Long Beach,

 California ? sponsored some funny cars ? Sorry for the size found this image years ago on Worthpoint, came across it clearing

 some old files on my computer. Looks like spoiler delete car ?

Mike

Click on the link to see my thread featuring a little more info on Beach City Chevrolet: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=19763.0

[group/7]

Bob McDonald Chev "Untouchable" '67 SS/RS....this dealer was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada.

'68 Z on the left, quite a few other Chevys around.

once again scroll l-r for full image

[group/7]

69 Z hit left front ! my caption " I told ya not to take that corner so fast"

Those were the days, concrete block under the cross member and single pole jack !

[MO]

Judging by the wheel, that was a wild ride!

[group/7]

Is this a '67 Camaro ? If so does any one know more about this car ?

If not I will delete.

And again scroll l-r for full image   

Mike

[MO]

I'd say so due to the vent window.

[Z10Mike]

That is one killer induction setup.  Never seen one like that for a clickety six.

[boomer632]

Dave K.. this would look good in a 68 RS vert

[group/7]

This '6? Yenko clone ? ? was supposed to have been used in a movie  ?

[boomer632]

a 1969 and I would have no problem taking that off their hands as a clone.

[FRANKTHECRANK]

Is this a '67 Camaro ? If so does any one know more about this car ?

If not I will delete.

And again scroll l-r for full image   

Mike

Mike, I see you often mentioning  "scroll l-r for full image"......but I'm pretty sure your posts are showing the full image, and there isn't really a way to scroll,....not on a desk top anyway.

[David K]

Frank--Ipad....gotta scroll
.

[rocco376]

The Super Duty Trans Am looks pretty interesting too.

[169INDY]

^^ Fast & Furious Movie Cars left for Dead?, I thought one of the movies had a Blue 69 Used in a few sequences including a Boat Dock Jump?

[MO]

Laptop and have to scroll.

[FRANKTHECRANK]

Frank--Ipad....gotta scroll
.

Thanks Dave.

[x66 714]

Here's a picture from my archives of my Z/28 taking a 1/4 pass. 1979 or 1980. Not the best pictures....Joe

[FRANKTHECRANK]

One of the engines in my 68 Z28 when it was raced in the 70s.

[group/7]

Proud with his new '67 RS 'vert....Illinois tags ?

once again scroll l-r...It's a real challenge to get the size right   

[169INDY]

^^ Interesting, Look at the Stripe Gap above and below the RS emblem.

[group/7]

Maybe stripe is dealer add-on ?

[MO]

It shouldn't be, but it is funky! Also not the way the pinstripe ends into the nose stripe.

[group/7]

Re: nose stripes, this photo was posted here in another thread on promotional and pace cars by SMKZ28 (thanks Scott !)  from an

 in house GM magazine from 1966 that I have. This was the first appearance of '67s in public September 25th. '66 Can-Am race at

 Mosport, Ontario, Canada. There were comments about the stripe on this car either in that thread or some where else, can't find it

 now.

That's John Surtees with the Camaro.

Mike

[group/7]

Here's another '67 RS/SS regarding the stripe, I don't think that photo is in '67, those tires weren't available then ?

Mike

[camaronut]

I remember long ago, I spoke with one of the few Camaro experts (that wrote many books) of the day and he told me something that sticks with me......"these cars were made on an assembly line where depending on the day they were built, there are going to be variances - that's the way it is - not everything is going to be spot on".  The QA folks at the end of the line weren't going to reject a car due to a stripe that's off by a 1/4"......

He's right.

[group/7]

I'm in agreement with camaronut, having worked final inspection in a GM plant in Canada, I'd pull a car aside and point out a fault

 to my supervisor who'd eyeball it and tell me ship it ! It was more about numbers out the door than quality ! I'd see cars in dealers

 and auto shows with faults, that maybe the untrained eye wouldn't spot.

Mike

[group/7]

two '67 Z/28 drag cars back in the day.

(photos: Tousignant Collection from Colsey's Place)

[KurtS]

Dave and Ben Wenzel are the original owners of that 67 Z and still race it!

[group/7]

It was the '60s & '70s after all ! 

[group/7]

1970 Camaros, the one with the plane GM promo photo.

What about the nose on photo ? striping and turn/park lights are not production, GM show car ? Could be taken at Milford ?

(photos: General Motors)

Once again scroll L-R for full image   

Mike

[camaronut]

Judges won't like the way the door fits on that one for sure.  And that's original!!!!!

[Z10Mike]

The door to fender gap is likely in the .25 inch range on that "1970" car.  From my recollection, production fender gaps could vary significantly from car to car.   And I've had ten 67 to 69's when they were original.  They built production cars.  Not show cars.  How many restoration shops today custom work the fender and door leading edge by welding on or removing material to get to 1/8 inch gaps?   I'd bet most of the top show cars are massaged in  that manner. 

[Kelley W King]

Kind of odd that “1970” SS has SS wheels, I think they dropped that option on 69,s about December of 68. I guess they planned to bring the option back for 70

[camaronut]

Judges won't like the way the door fits on that one for sure.  And that's original!!!!!

Just havin fun!!!!!

[Vince]

Does anyone know the reason they stopped production of the SS wheels in late 1968 or so?   If I did know why in the past, I've forgotten.   I've always liked that SS wheel.   

[BillOhio]

I like those too.  Good looking factory wheel

[MO]

It was the '60s & '70s after all ! 

That's great!

[MO]

Kind of odd that “1970” SS has SS wheels, I think they dropped that option on 69,s about December of 68. I guess they planned to bring the option back for 70

Yeah, I've seen other promo pics with those wheels. I guess the idea was to help differentiate the "70's" from the 69's. I think it's a great looking wheel and looks perfect on 69 Camaro's.

[group/7]

Vince & MO, just for information,  re: SS wheels on '70 Camaros, Quoting Vince's post on Feb. 1st this year " does anyone know the

 reason they stopped production of the SS wheels in late '68 or so ?"

Here's a couple of scans from the Canadian '69 model year GM vehicle Ordering Manual, dated April 1st. '69,  shows those SS

 wheels to be available but Z27 must be ordered. All prices in Canadian dollars, they weren't cheap !

Mike

[MO]

Yeah, that was pretty pricey at around $100 each after Z27 was added. That's why so many after market wheels were sold.

[Vince]

Thanks for the scans group/7.   

[rich69rs]

Not very good quality - tv screen shots from the 1969 movie:  "The Racing Scene" with James Garner. 

Pace lap from the 1969 St. Jovite F5000 SCCA Formula A Continental Championship, 7 September 1969,

Now known as Circuit Mont-Tremblant, it is a 2.621 mile road course located approximately 81 miles north of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

'69 Camaro Pace Car leading the field.

Richard

[boomer632]

Small town USA

[rich69rs]

1967 Road America Can-Am pace lap.   (Scroll picture left-right.)

McLaren    Hulme
Gurney      Follmer
Donohue   Parsons
Surtees      Revson
Hall            Motschenbacher
Scott          Hayes
Hansen      Morin
Posey         Barber
.
.
.
Finishing order: Hulme, Donohue, Surtees, Hall, Scott, Hansen, Barber, Morley, Motschenbacher, Hayes

[68camaroz28]

1967 Road America Can-Am pace lap.   (Scroll picture left-right.)

McLaren    Hulme
Gurney      Follmer
Donohue   Parsons
Surtees      Revson
Hall            Motschenbacher
Scott          Hayes
Hansen      Morin
Posey         Barber
.
.
.
Finishing order: Hulme, Donohue, Surtees, Hall, Scott, Hansen, Barber, Morley, Motschenbacher, Hayes

wow, that Camaro pace car was modified with several things, a real Day 2 car back then.

[169INDY]

^^ That was the Styling exercise "GM Styling Studio Cherokee Camaro" currently in the Brothers collection in Ore.

[boomer632]

1982 Carlisle

[MO]

Sweet rabbit.

[FRANKTHECRANK]

This is such a great thread,.....definitely one of my favorite on this web site.

[396 SS/RS]

My Camaro at the Charlotte Auto Fair April of '87 at the Charlotte Motor Speedway.

[Sauron327]

68 Camaro w/ tow hooks cover photo. https://www.facebook.com/groups/70sstreetmachines
Plenty of period pics on that site.

[MO]

Good story and cover shot of MCR a few years ago.

[David K]

I love the Carlisle pictures, because I know the grounds well.

[mls68z28]

Year 1979,my 68 Z

[396 SS/RS]

Year 1979,my 68 Z

And only 11 years old at the time. Do you still have it, any updated photos?

[FRANKTHECRANK]

Year 1979,my 68 Z

And only 11 years old at the time. Do you still have it, any updated photos?

For sure looks like a hard 11 years at that.

[mls68z28]

Yes it was in rough shape, New York car,Yes I still have it.

[mls68z28]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3jmaZdkGA

[396 SS/RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3jmaZdkGA

Cool video! It's funny how after doing something like that you get pumped up and your knees want to knock a little, even though you know that you have it under control.

[mls68z28]

Thanks

[boomer632]

Carlisle PA 2001

[396 SS/RS]

This pic was taken '80 of my '72. Of all the cars that I've had this one and my 396 SS/RS are my all time favorites.

[MO]

Gotta say I like that hood on that body style! Wonder how it would look with factory Z stripes? Might have too much going on and look better without them. I have seen them with a single stripe which looks good though.

[396 SS/RS]

Gotta say I like that hood on that body style! Wonder how it would look with factory Z stripes? Might have too much going on and look better without them. I have seen them with a single stripe which looks good though.

Thanks, I loved that fiberglass hood. My dad owned a body shop so I did all the prep work and he painted it. I considered Z stripes but decided against it due to the contours of the L88 hood vs. the width of the stripes.

[169INDY]

Well Since we are on 2nd Gen Cars; Here is Ours, Bob S & I Built this in the early eighties, Harwood L88 Hood and Bob striping dream sheet, 350 4 speed converted from a Daytona 307 auto Car- Late 70's Street theme that was so popular

Jim

[Badshifter]

On the 2nd gen roll, my Z/28 RS in 1981/82 ish. 4 speed, traded it for a 1967 VW big. Just shoot me.

[FRANKTHECRANK]

This pic was taken '80 of my '72. Of all the cars that I've had this one and my 396 SS/RS are my all time favorites.

Funny, I had a 73 full bumper Camaro in 1980. Maroon with black vinyl top and black interior,...front and rear spoilers like yours, but I put a 78 Z28 hood scoop on it.

A friend of mine had a red 70 RS with the L88 hood on it and I always thought it looked perfect on it.

[camaronut]

On the 2nd gen roll, my Z/28 RS in 1981/82 ish. 4 speed, traded it for a 1967 VW big. Just shoot me.

You did what?  lol.......oh well......