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« on: January 12, 2014, 01:54:52 AM »

This is how you are supposed to post a for sale ad for a classic car. Besides the obvious repop warped dash pad, a few other things including finish issues, this is a heck of a nice car. Many stamps to look over. What say all of you? Trim Plate - Trans stamps - block front pad stamps - etc. etc. All look good?? Cause I am about to get a loan...  Wink Wink Is this car in the DB??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1969-camaro-z-28-numbers-matching-documented-owner-history-show-quality-/171213862224?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27dd243550&item=171213862224&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2014, 02:14:18 AM »

Looks like a nice car, if you can overlook the minor finish issues (like PTB stamps on a Van Nuys car, missing quarter louvers if the rest of the style trim items are factory correct, etc). How big is the loan you're considering?
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« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2014, 05:22:24 AM »

Is this car in the DB??

It wasn't back in July of 2013...  http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=11094.0

VIN: 124379L518535

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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2014, 06:25:21 AM »

I agree with ZLP, someone has installed all the X33 items (except the quarter louvers) on  X77 car. PTB stamps, the heat shields ( spoilers added) on the passenger side of the block, & also came with a flat hood.
The resto looks very clean, I like the endura front bumper and the color is awesome
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2014, 07:15:39 AM »

Pretty car---other than the " do-dads"  looks very straight an clean. If all the numbers are legit, hope you land it for around that price. Think I would inquire about some pictures during the body work phase. Surprised nobody really uses this as a selling point. Something to be said about low/no mud ,OE sheet metal.

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2014, 10:30:52 AM »

Pretty car for sure. As the others have said a few inconsistencies regarding originality when the car was painted. When I see these things I am concerned that bigger items were not done right not knowingly by the restorer. Original sheet metal is nice.
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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 12:22:26 PM »

It all looks *real* from the pictures, and a pretty nice restoration.. and the PTB stamps should clean off pretty easily.. Smiley
I like it... a *real* Z28.. nicely kept, good paperwork, and looks very good.  (these cars were not perfect from the factory!~)..
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« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 12:41:52 PM »

 Many of us in CRG who are 45+ years and older should look that good and restored to original as this car does.
I'm not a Z-28 fan but this does grab my attention.

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« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 01:25:41 PM »

he shows one original pic, but the letter next to it says there is another, you want to inquire about him posting the second pic. Jano made a good point about the body work, if there were any pics taken then. It looks like some others have taken notice on how clean this car is, (62k reserve not met)
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« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2014, 01:30:26 PM »

Not perfect from the factory ,what??  Cheesy

Funny how you can look at all these cars and some just grab you. Not all do. Something about that blue Z does me.

Hope he gets it for a good price.
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« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2014, 01:48:35 PM »

The gaps and lines look dead on to me ( body)
Looks like they might have utilized the old weather seal around the doors--like it. I'm reusing all mine so I'm a little partial.

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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2014, 09:22:07 PM »

So, no PTB stamp on Van Nuys cars? I learn something new on here every day!  Grin
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2014, 11:16:51 PM »

Looks just like mine!
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2014, 04:35:29 AM »

So, no PTB stamp on Van Nuys cars? I learn something new on here every day!  Grin
Correct, but if you want to verify it yourself, it is stated in JohnZ's article on the first-gen assembly process, located HERE.
The relevant quotation is "followed by a final inspection (at Norwood, but not Van Nuys, "P", "T", and "B" ink stamps were applied to the body for Paint, Trim, and Body inspection OK), and the body was shipped up the ramp to Chevrolet. "
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2014, 07:56:28 AM »

Here is a better car, IMHO. http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/557472/1969_Z28_Lemans_Blue_51k_origi#Post557472
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2014, 09:41:18 AM »


Yes, it should be...  Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2014, 11:06:07 AM »


whats funny is, thats the way the other car on ebay probably looked brand new, (no spoilers and a flat hood), and looks like it has all the correct X77 items. The ebay car has various X33 items added here and there. Both cars are the same color, both X77, with the endura bumper, very nice combo.
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2014, 01:33:44 PM »


I have seen this car, heard it run looked it over. It is well done.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2014, 01:44:57 PM »

It does look nice (hopefully it has windshield wipers by now). So in your opinion do you think it is a $88k car?
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2014, 07:14:13 PM »

So in your opinion do you think it is a $88k car?
Personally, yes. Fantastic looking car. That said, and meaning no disrespect to the current owner or restorer (James has done an incredible job), I find it perplexing that so much effort has been spent in meticulously replicating all the original factory finishes, including all the paint runs, coverage issues and variations observed on true survivors, and yet they used a BC/CC paint system.
Perhaps this is due to state environmental regulations preventing lacquer use?
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2014, 07:49:13 PM »

unless you had a private booth, and had access to lacquer products, it is going to be tough to get a car painted in the states with it now a days.
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2014, 09:12:34 PM »

It does look nice (hopefully it has windshield wipers by now). So in your opinion do you think it is a $88k car?

I hope he gets it.

James is a friend and is painting my X66 Convertible. He is an incredible technician to detail, especially to originality. That is what I really appreciate. It is much harder to restore to 100% original than restoring to just making it look pretty. But ya'll all know that.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2014, 09:17:20 PM »

That 2nd car from Yenko.net is one of the prettiest 69 Z's I've seen in a long time.  Very well done.
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« Reply #23 on: January 24, 2014, 07:08:38 AM »

It does look nice (hopefully it has windshield wipers by now). So in your opinion do you think it is a $88k car?

I hope he gets it.

James is a friend and is painting my X66 Convertible. He is an incredible technician to detail, especially to originality. That is what I really appreciate. It is much harder to restore to 100% original than restoring to just making it look pretty. But ya'll all know that.

yep--literally every inch of my car was shot(digital pics) by the body man(also my old friend) to match what came out of the factory when he shoots it this spring, they were not perfect rolling off the line. Would have already been done if we were going for pretty. He gets to it when he can ,and I'm in no hurry--told him we are a match made in heaven. He's getting a kick out of the 68 build manual and Jerry's book, which reminds me I need to get them back!
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« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2014, 07:56:55 AM »

unless you had a private booth, and had access to lacquer products, it is going to be tough to get a car painted in the states with it now a days.
I can buy lacquer at my jobber and it can be sprayed privately or at any shop.

The lacquer on these cars was reflowed, not cut and buffed.  Cutting uncleared lacquer too much distrupts the metallic and creates a blotchy appearance. And today's lacquer is not like that of '69, so painters choose BC/CC instead.
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2014, 02:25:18 AM »

It is re-listed again today, Danny you have another shot at it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-1969-camaro-z-28-numbers-matching-documented-owner-history-show-quality-/171246173825?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27df113e81&item=171246173825&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
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« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2014, 09:41:00 AM »


I really like that car, (PBT) or not.. Smiley    Does anyone know what happened on the first auction?  Did it make reserve? or ??
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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2014, 10:10:13 AM »

A quick check shows at $62K the reserve was not met, so perhaps the seller and high bidder couldn't agree on a price, or buyer wasn't all that into it with 26 feedback?
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2014, 07:41:34 AM »

This car is discussed on Yenko.net. One of the members there owns it. Sounds nice.
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2014, 11:12:14 AM »

Well even with the upgrades on spoilers and hood, it definitely presents nice. I wonder how close he was to selling it the first time.
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