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« on: December 09, 2013, 09:13:40 PM »

Just had to vent. TV announcers said a real z28 up next on Saturday afternoon. Of course it's black. They said again a real z28 but now has a 350. Also had non power brakes and big block heater box!
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2013, 02:18:54 AM »

Hey man don't get to mad, they know what brings in the viewers......"The 69 Z".....and the misinformation that they seem to have a never ending supply of is why we are here at CRG  Wink
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2013, 09:30:55 AM »

I just think of the announcers as more like cheerleaders than experts. Just like any other sport, they're there to hype.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2013, 09:48:28 AM »

Not reasonable IMHO to expect "the announcers" to have knowledge of every type of car from A to Z going across the block for the TV audience and that they checked/verified prior against what the seller was stating.
Interesting to see who "the announcers" will be when Mecum moves to NBS Sports channel next year.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2013, 01:48:00 PM »

Looking through Saturday's results ,looks like a "numbers" 69 z sold for almost 70K---I'm assuming the "no info" 69 z ,which stopped at 36K--still bidding ,was the black one  Huh (did the black one sell, and if so how much?) No one fell for the "magic beans" in the glove compartment is what I am reading Saturday.


Mecum is there to sell cars--period. And lots of them.(I really do enjoy watching) Like anything for sale forget the bold statements and read the fine print.

Imitation is the best form of flattery--I really see no point taking offence  to someone calling their car something it is not pending : 1. beating someone's car out at a legit ,points based event(never going to happen) 2.Prices surpass the "real thing" ( never going to happen) those cars raise the tide.

Honestly, years ago it used to bother me ,not so much anymore.  diamonds/zirconia's   You have a diamond" bill of ohio"
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2013, 02:15:12 PM »

It was a Saturday car. Was 27,000. Barrett Jackson had some cars checked out last year. I am not sure if it went well enough they will do it this year. I am headed to kissimmee in January. Fun to look stuff over. I did read on another site there's a 69 L89 car that has bad documents. They had 69 last year with the same problem and I think it had a restamped block. Might be better off with a restomod or a new z28! If anyone here is going to kissimmee I found a nice, clean place to stay 5 minutes from the auction. Drop me a pm and I get you the info.
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2013, 03:18:21 PM »

You have a diamond" bill of ohio"   well put Jano.

While I have a some personal stock in 60's muscle cars, I wouldn't mind if Muscle cars took a hit in the market. I am perfectly happy having these cars coming down about 50% at least and be affordable to more of the masses. I think if the cars did become more affordable the buyers would tend to have more of a mindset of driving these and maintaing these beauties. The way things are going now, it seems these cars are just getting traded into collections, and not falling into new hands. As a younger guy I was able to attain these cars for the most part because they were affordable. I have since been fortunate enough to turn a profit on a couple of cars I cleaned up to be able to purchase my Z as well as another original owner car recently.
I am not charitable enough to sell them for pennies on the dollar just to get new blood into the hobby, but possibly to the right family member or good friend I might give a decent discount.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2013, 03:53:33 PM »

Careful--might get your wish when the new generation of Hot Rodders come of age: the tuners.

Flip side I have no interest in selling ,would be fun buying with a 50% decrease ! And I agree ,hate the thought of these American classics being bought up and shelved. Part of our history.

1982 I bought a 68 GTO convertible for $1800.00. Fair paint ,flawless interior .Flipped it for a Jeep 1 year later .made real good $$ on the Jeep...Would love to have that goat back as a daily driver. Forgot about that car until I was digging through old pics.I was in HS at the time.

Bundle up out there today Bill ,cold up here in Ohio.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 07:14:21 PM »

Worked on book keeping today. Brutal out. Tomorrow night sounds worse. Going to watch OSU play ball too. You wait in line for buses to haul you to the parking lot. Should be a lot of fun!
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 08:17:45 AM »

High performance muscle cars did go down due to the gas shortage..I remember 427 vette could be bought around 2500.00 in the mid 70s..they sure haven't come down lately .The 60-70s muscle cars just don't appeal to the younger crowd anymore and the older folks have the memories and the money! Don't forget our muscle cars and parts are being sold and shipped out of the US to a world market. I'd love to buy another 69 Z/28 for 1050.00 bucks!That is 1979 prices! The first gen camaro is just so popular and has been for a very long time you'll never see them affordable again IMHO......They have become more of an investment car.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 08:51:36 AM »

RSR,
I think you are right about the times. People that are spending bucks are either investors or people that want that car they had or wanted back in the day. When the age group that want them are gone or too old the investors will not have a market and I believe they will come down. Years ago you would snubbed for modifying a 55 chevy but now it is commonplace because most of the real 55 guys are just not in the market. The muscle car guys now probably average around 60 years old judging from car show attendance, so time will tell soon enough.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 09:32:17 AM »

RSR,
I think you are right about the times. People that are spending bucks are either investors or people that want that car they had or wanted back in the day. When the age group that want them are gone or too old the investors will not have a market and I believe they will come down. Years ago you would snubbed for modifying a 55 chevy but now it is commonplace because most of the real 55 guys are just not in the market. The muscle car guys now probably average around 60 years old judging from car show attendance, so time will tell soon enough.

There's some truth to your first statement, to wit all the loriginal or restored model A Fords which have dropped in price and are now being purchased for little or nothing, to be modified high tech... (to again bring big $$$)...

but as for your 55 Chevy example, I don't agree..     '55 Chevy's have been *modified* almost from day 1.. and yes, beginning in the '70's a lot of them were 'restored'... and currently there is a strong market for both original/ restored '55 Chevys and modified ones.  I suspect the '55-57 Chevy situation will be replicated in the first gen camaro market in years to come.
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« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 10:04:25 AM »

yup , all of you are correct. I'm keeping a watchful eye on those Tri 5's--my favorite and first love. When this Z's done I'm aggressively pursuing the 56 of my dreams! Minus motor and trans of course. Let me tell you the car I turned down in HS : Dad's friend's pearl 56 210, M22, 3:73---327 with shaved 2:02's.Wanted a 55 ,ended up buying that GTO. For more $$( I was a dumb kid!) My dad hated that "junk Pontiac" and I heard about it daily. You guys are surfacing painful memories! LOL. I did own a rolling 55 ,old Dragway 42 car I traded a rm80 and few hundred bucks. Very rough but all the glass and stainless. Sold the body for what I had in it and parts throughout HS--did "well" on it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 12:41:55 PM »

As soon as i dial in the 327 in  my 64 C-10, my 55 2 door hardtop is getting the full court press. This time I am going in a different direction, so the 55 is getting a LS1 block, and a 6 speed. I had a 55 2 door post (210) that I bought for $2500 back in 1995. It was very clean no rust, had a 350 powerglide, and a 12 bolt posi with 3.73 gears. I was still a teenager and that was a good price back then for a clean runner. I think it might have had disc brakes as well. I ended up trading it for a paint job on my 66 Chevelle SS. I vowed the only way I was going to let it go is if I promised myself to get another one down the road and preferably a hardtop this time. Well as luck would have it my friend bought a hardtop with memories of doing donuts in mind. it only took me 4 years to talk him out of it. I will be pumped to get that ride on the road!
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Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear) please
Looking for an original LOF soft ray windshield
Looking for original Delco side post negative battery cable part # 6297651AV
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« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 01:14:10 PM »

Funny how that is ,my z's totally apart and I too am building the next one in my head. And I'm noticing a correlation between equal love of 1st gen Camaros and Tri 5's here. I have a 64 327 on the stand with a very well prepped set of 2.02 's and a full manual 350 turbo with a brake on a pallet. Gotta find something to eat these parts up!
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