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1968 - Orphans / Re: Z28 MO on MPLS CL

« on: September 21, 2015, 04:33:29 AM »

Actually, I've seen very few stamping errors over the years.
Yes, I bet this was 124378L382665. Engine stamp looks good, IMO.

The seller is shooting for the moon. I heard that it was bought at an estate sale for $800.

That doesn't make any sense, because it is 124378L382665.

Do you mean 124378L332665, as suggested by X66 714?

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Decoding/Numbers / Nice paper work collection on this 1968

« on: September 20, 2015, 06:23:35 PM »

Nice original looking paper work on this 1968 convertible.

It's not often you see window sticker, POP, Body and chassis broadcast sheets all together.

Interesting that the trim tag is 01D and the engine is 0209. Any explanation?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-Rally-Sport-/252094167659?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3ab1fbba6b&item=252094167659

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Early LOS 1967

« on: September 19, 2015, 06:34:27 PM »

Follow the link and you will find out how there can be 4 body #3342 1967 Camaros from LOS alone.

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1968 - Orphans / Re: Z28 MO on MPLS CL

« on: September 15, 2015, 09:40:35 PM »

Full VIN: 124378L382665

Well, in that case it may never sell. There is no record of any 1968 Camaro LOS VIN that high. Not even close. Interesting, huh?

Ragtop, full VIN was listed in reply #1. 

Paul

Yes. That is where I cut and pasted it from. I don't understand your point?

Perhaps my point was not clear. The last VIN on record from LOS is: 8L349164

VIN 8L382665 was never produced (unless there was some very odd anomoly). The car does not exist, therefore there is no owner of the car that would be willing to pay such an inflated price.

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1968 - Orphans / Re: Z28 MO on MPLS CL

« on: September 15, 2015, 05:20:31 PM »

It's maybe only worth that to one person
The guy with the car it came out of 

Full VIN: 124378L382665


Well, in that case it may never sell. There is no record of any 1968 Camaro LOS VIN that high. Not even close. Interesting, huh?

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Confirmation of original engine

« on: September 13, 2015, 02:31:05 AM »

Good news, your hidden VIN does match your actual VIN.

Since your VIN was recorded as produced after your engine, the engine may be original.

The only thing that seems out of sequence is the trim tag, which could possibly have been replaced at any time. The only question is why? It is nothing special, so it's not for deceit. Maybe an abberation?

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General Discussion / Re: Caveat Emptor..another

« on: September 10, 2015, 05:36:44 AM »

Was there really a Fletcher Jones Chevrolet back in the day?
There is a Fletcher Jones dealership near me, but it's Mercedes. Maybe related?

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General Discussion / Re: Attn. JohnZ-Nor. Fisher Body Paint Process

« on: September 06, 2015, 08:45:46 PM »

It's covered pretty well in John Z's technical article. The whole article is worth a read, but here is the jist of your question.

Color System: The bodies were sequenced to "batch-paint" by color as much as the build schedule allowed, to minimize the waste of thinner required to clear paint guns between colors. The interior was masked off, the body exterior was tacked-off, and it then entered the main color booth, where it got three coats of acrylic lacquer, sprayed automatically with vertical and horizontal reciprocating spray guns, with a 3-minute "flash" between coats, followed by a 10-minute bake at 200F to "skin" the surface prior to sanding. In the next stage, any surface defects were power- and hand-wet-sanded with mineral spirits, then wiped off prior to entering the final "reflow" oven. This bake lasted 30 minutes at 275F, where the lacquer surface softened and "re-flowed" to a uniform gloss.

http://www.camaros.org/assemblyprocess.shtml

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Originality / Re: 68 Big Block Coupe Spare Tire Floor Bracket Location

« on: September 04, 2015, 05:39:13 PM »

Can anyone help with the location of the spare tire bracket which spotwelds to the trunk floor on a '68 Big Block (L35) Coupe?
Prior - to - purchase floor replacement, and whoever installed the floor neglected to transfer this bracket; I am of the understanding/rumors that the location of this bracket differs from coupe/convertible as well as Big and Small block. Is this true?
Can anyone post the correct measurements? Thank you.

There is no difference in small block big/block location. The only difference in location is coupe/convertible. You will not find the location in the assembly manual because Fisher Body installed that part.

Take a look at UPC 10 (p 132 in my book). It clearly shows the location differences and assembly instructions between coupe and conv. Interestingly, there is a note on UPC A2 (p 182): CONV. SEE RPO L35.

UPC L35 shows an extra "retainer" and a different pn for the bolt and instruction sheet. Not sure what that is all about, but as far as location, there is no difference between BB and SB.

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General Discussion / Re: EXTREMELY nice, heavily documented 1969 rally green Z on ebay

« on: August 30, 2015, 05:35:10 PM »

The ebay winning bidder is a notorious scammer, not the seller.

http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75271

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Restoration / Re: Had your moldings flash chromed?

« on: July 23, 2015, 05:23:11 AM »

ALL GM exterior polished stainless steel moldings (including windshield and backlite reveal moldings, convertible windshield inner garnish moldings, wheel trim rings, etc.) were flash-chromed after polishing to protect the stainless substrate from oxidation and dulling and maintain the icy-blue appearance. Whatever flash chrome remains on old moldings needs to be removed (it was only .0003"-.0005" thick - a third to a half a thousandth of an inch) before polishing, and the parts should be flash-chromed (clear chrome only) after polishing in order to maintain the original appearance.

Well, I am not an expert in chrome plating, but chromium is the element that is used in chrome plating to give it the shiny appearence. It is "steely-gray" in color so I fail to understand how it can be used to provide a clear coating. Perhaps it is just semantics, and "clear chrome" is not really clear. Please enlighten me on the subject. Your knowledge of the original GM processes is always appreciated.

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Restoration / Re: Had your moldings flash chromed?

« on: July 22, 2015, 02:39:54 PM »

My windshield and back glass trim is dent free but needs shined up. I talked to a guy who has polished trim with years of experience and he said he starts off with 180 grit sanding. I assume that will remove the flash chrome?  Has anyone had their trim re chromed with clear?  Was curious if people are just taking chrome off and polishing or what.
thanks

I have never seen any chrome flash plating on first generation Camaro stainless steel trim.  I believe all the trim is just solid stainless. I have sent out damaged trim to be repaired and it came back looking better than new and there was no chrome plating applied. I've been actually had to polish the rest of the stainless steel myself. And then it all matched.

As far as I know "Trim re-chromed with clear" is not a process, and I don't think it's even possible.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Same VIN 124679N626982 on two cars?

« on: July 20, 2015, 08:51:01 PM »

Need VIN tag pic.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Same VIN 124679N626982 on two cars?

« on: July 20, 2015, 07:25:40 PM »

No way to tell by VIN alone.

Something is fishy. You better get a picture of the VIN tag if you are interested in buying it.

Scammers often copy information from legitimate ads, and that VIN is already documented on the Ohio car.

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Decoding/Numbers / Re: Same VIN 124679N626982 on two cars?

« on: July 20, 2015, 05:21:01 PM »

The second car is supposedly in Spain.

It's amazing how much Spain looks like Ohio or Anywhere, Middle USA.