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General Discussion / 1967 Camaro Pacesetter Sale
« on: March 19, 2014, 05:24:29 AM »
The recent discussion about Pacesetters encouraged me to do some more research on the topic. I'll probably put this on the site eventually, but for now:

The Chevrolet Pacesetter promotion was intended to leverage the selection of the 1967 Camaro as the pacecar for the 67 Indy 500.
The 4/10/67 initial announcement said “Chevrolet and its dealers are launching a nationwide Camaro Pacesetter sales campaign this month to mark the selection of the Camaro as pace car for this year's Indianapolis 500 race on Memorial Day.”
"During the Pacesetter event, Camaro buyers can get the special hood stripe and floor-mounted shift for three-speed transmission at no extra cost with special savings also available on Powerglide automatic transmission, power steering and power brakes.”
The various Pacesetter ads and literature include some details of the sale, but some details were unclear or appear conflicted.

The specifics of the Pacesetter sale were:
- The D91 bumblebee nose stripe and the M11 floor mount shift were no cost options on both L6- or V8- powered Camaros.
- For both L6 coupes and convertibles, the sale offered special savings on this group of eight options: the L22 250ci L6, deluxe steering wheel (N30), wheel covers (P01), whitewalls (P58), front and rear bumper guards (V31 & V32), wheelwell mouldings and side striping (Z21), and extra interior trim (Z23).
- If the eight-option package was ordered on a L6 car, then there was a small discount on these three options: power brakes, power steering, and the Powerglide automatic transmission.

Data on cars involved in the promotion is somewhat limited, but is sufficient to explain some to the details of the campaign.
The first cars that had the promotion were built in mid-April and, although the campaign was supposed to run through June, it continued until the end of the model year.
The window sticker showed the normal option list and prices. The GMAC invoice to the dealer showed a credit to the dealer for the promotion as a line item. How much of the savings the dealer passed on appears to be at the dealer’s discretion – there are some dealer invoices that show full price was charged to the customer without any discount.
The credit on the D91 stripe ($11.39) and M11 shifter ($8.15) were based on dealer cost, not the suggest retail price of $14.75 and $10.55.
The discount on the eight-option package (L22, N30, P01, P58, V31, V32, Z21, Z23) was $50. These options retailed for a total of $159.
If you ordered the eight-option package, the discount on power brakes was $5, the discount on power steering was $10, and the discount on the powerglide was $15. These discounts could be combined.

It is notable that the promotion focused on L6 cars. There was a notable surge in L6 orders after this promotion started, probably driven by profit potential for the dealers.
The only V8 cars involved in the promotion were those ordered with the M11 floor shifter or the D91 nose stripe. Very few V8 cars have been documented as part of the Pacesetter sale.

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Restoration / MOVED: 69 Camaro Z28 and SS 4sp parts.
« on: March 08, 2014, 11:04:04 PM »

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6-cylinder Camaros / L6 starters
« on: March 07, 2014, 11:29:31 PM »
I'd like to confirm the starter usage on L6 cars.
So I'm looking for the original starter numbers off of any 67-69 L6 car.
Especially 67 since manual and auto may have used different part #'s.

Pretty sure the 69 L6 starter I have at home is 1108365. It will be a while before I can confirm that....

Thanks!

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General Discussion / 69 Z on ebay - twin
« on: February 03, 2014, 02:01:56 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291054987259
Same colors, most of the same options, same town, VIN right next to his. About as twinsy as you can get to Gary's Z. :)

Oops, forgot to add the VIN: 124379N686644

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Site Comments/Discussion / MOVED: HELP
« on: October 12, 2013, 02:48:06 PM »

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1969 - Orphans / 9N677856 trans case on ebay.
« on: March 13, 2013, 03:57:21 AM »
http://www.ebay.com/itm/190808318864
Seller: mlookhere (Mike) in West Grove, PA.

Real case, real stamp.
The car was on ebay (in PA) a few years back - L35 car, rusty and apart. And with a restamped M22! Here's its real case!

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General Discussion / Poll #2 - T-shirt back
« on: February 19, 2013, 04:25:08 PM »
This is a vote on a concept.
Details can be changed to make the design better (some may not work as well with some colors).
The cursive font would try to match the script on the Camaro emblem.



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General Discussion / Poll #1 - CRG T-shirt front
« on: February 19, 2013, 04:22:56 PM »
No need to post, just vote!


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General Discussion / New site articles / pages
« on: February 09, 2013, 12:58:17 AM »
3 new pages were added to the site.
John wrote about the differences between the various brake valves. http://www.camaros.org/brakevalve.shtml

Jon wrote an article about the 67 metallic brake RPO's. http://www.camaros.org/metallic.shtml

I broke apart the General Info page and made a Model page with basic info on the different models and engines. http://www.camaros.org/model.shtml

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General Discussion / New CRG members
« on: February 06, 2013, 01:39:35 PM »
There are two new additions to the CRG group - Steve and Bryon.
Most have known them via their posts here and on TC. We're looking forward to working with them!
http://www.camaros.org/aboutcrg.shtml#Members

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General Discussion / Ebay and copyrights
« on: January 10, 2013, 07:54:21 PM »
There was the Z10 the other day that used the complete Z10 article in the ad.

Now there's a LM1 that has the complete LM1 article in the ad. (Thanks for the heads-up, Ed!) Ebay has been notified.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=251211677993

We'd appreciate if anyone notices any other ads with CRG content in the ad to let us know. :)

Thaks!

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General Discussion / Updated orphan lists
« on: April 25, 2012, 02:02:59 AM »
I changed how I generated the orphan lists. A bit of work, but now it includes all types of documents including POP's.
Over a 1000 VIN's listed on the updated pages.

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General Discussion / Downloadable AIM's and some service manuals
« on: April 10, 2012, 07:44:25 PM »
Here are downloadable versions (pdf's) of the 67-69 AIM's and some service manuals.

*NOTE - All files have the correct share settings. Anyone can download the files with these links. Any requests for access will be ignored.*

AIM's:
1967 Camaro AIM
1968 Camaro AIM
1969 Camaro AIM

67 service manuals:
1967 Fisher Body Service Manual
1967 Chassis Service Manual
1967 Chassis Overhaul Manual

68 Fisher Body manual:
1968 Fisher Body Service Manual

69 service manuals:
1969 Chassis Service Manual
1969 Chassis Overhaul Manual

They are large files and are being hosted on Google.

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General Discussion / REMOVED: Cowl Tag and VIN
« on: March 15, 2012, 04:16:38 PM »
This topic has been removed to per original poster's request.

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