Ground wire on 67 PS Rag Joint

[68Zproject]

Ditto

[JohnZ]

What is the solution to replacing the insulaters? They are really "chewed up" on my car, probably done on tear-down. I purchased a new after-market rag joint but no insulators came with it and I don't see a listing anywhere in after-market for them. What to do? 

Long Island Corvette Supply (www.licorvette.com) has them - their #18-37E.

[LB67RSCONVERT]

Thanks JohnZ for the info on the insulators--I'll get them ordered.

[scoop]

are the rag joints for a 68 with power stering also have the insulators?

[big iron]

Trying to contact JimL82.
I think the PIN Bumpers where a 67 Corvette thing.
Bob

[68camaroz28]

You used my ol' thread at team camaro and he did respond. I also responded with this info just in case it helps.
"Maybe this will help as these are the orig. rag joints as far as I know off our 67 corvette and 68 Camaro. The only difference I remember was the Camaro joint had  smaller pin diameters. Camaro joint is on the left."



Jim's response: Drawing and comment is at http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1682861&posted=1#post1682861
"Bob,
Of all things, I have fairly good information on 1966, 68, and 69 F-car steering gears and flange and coupling assemblies. But I don't have 1967. Obviously the Camaro was not in production 1966. So the best I can do is tell you about the 1968 flange and coupling assembly.

The 1968 assembly used a ground cable with eyes on the end. I would think that the 1967 would have used the same cable. I think that the rubber bumpers were used in 1967 and possibly were eliminated sometime during 1967 production but I am not absolutely sure.

This is a drawing of the rivet cap (as it was called.) The fact that the cap is only 0.63 inches tall, I suspect that the 1967 Camaro flange and coupling assembly had rivets that were about 0.63 long and not the longer 0.75 that were used on late assemblies.

Wish that I could be of more help.
Jim"

[big iron]

Looked up the coupling asm. (6.525) in my 69 P&A and all 67-69 w/P/S (7806390) as are all 67-69 wo/P/S (7806391) are the same.
Ed,
Would you mind looking up these numbers in your earlier P&A to see if they are the same? There is a revision ( 3-3-67) in the 67 AIM 9 A3 that could indicate a different coupler or flange as Jim has noted in his reply. If they are the same then probably the pin bumpers where never used on 67-69 Camaros.
Bob

[big iron]

Somebody with a 68 P&A
Bob

[big iron]

 67,68 P&A
Bob

[big iron]

 

[Mike S]

Hi Bob,

    Are you asking if the pins used rubber bumpers on Camaros?

Mike

[big iron]

Mike,
Yes, the 67's could have had them but maybe not sometime after after the first of the year. A part # check in a 66 or 67 P&A could give us an answer, but I only have a 69 P&A.
Look at reply 21.
Does yours have pin bumpers?
Thanks for the pictures.
Bob

[Mike S]

Hi Bob,

  When I restored my 67 ragtop in the 80's I removd the manual and installed a P/S gear box w/ rag joint from a '69 Camaro.
The Julian date on the 69 steering box is stamped 240 8
I since removed it and reinstalled the original manual steering box on the '67 but never sold the 69 yet so here is a picture of that rag joint.
It has the rubber bumpers though the upper shaft rubber has been worn away and the thick base is all that is left.
The P/N 780047X was readable except for the last digit which could be a 9 or a 0 (the rubber is nicked)
As for the ground, my 67 manual joint uses the copper strip and never had any rubber 'bumpers'.

Mike

[big iron]

What about your 67 LOS. build, it has original P/S correct?
Bob

[Steve68]

October 66 P&A:  67 Camaro w/ PS. Flange assy., w/ coupling, lower 5699226 (removed 1/69)

Same info as above (for 67) in October 68 P&A

October 67 P&A:  68 Camaro w/PS.  Flange assy., w/ coupling, lower 7803564 (use 7806390 7/69)

Steve