Trim Tag Numbers

[mcp]

My trim tag reads:
ST   69     12437   NBR109166     BDY
TR      713                  65   65    PNT
       0A

The first thing anyone will say is that I am not reading it correctly, NBR is really NOR, but it does read NBR.  I sent Jerry MacNeish a picture and he said to send the information to the Camaro Research Group so they could put in there database.  Does anybody out there have a similiar tag?  Thanks in advance.

[Jonesy]

There are other cars with this miss stamp of NBR that have shown up over the years. Must have lost the "O" for a day or two.
This is a known anomoly

Decode for body number: 109166

10A = Built the First week of October.
69-12437 = Coupe.
NBR = Built in Norwood Ohio.
713 = Custom Houndstooth Black Bucket Seats.
65-65 = Car Color is Olympic Gold

[KurtS]

I've seen a few of these over the years. It was only for part of that one week.

Can you send me the VIN and a picture of the tag?

Thanks!
Kurt

[mcp]

Thanks Jonesy and KurtS for the fast response.  The Vin tag is 124379N505520.  Does this and the trim tag correlate to each other.  Thanks.

[KurtS]

Yes, the tag and VIN match.

[Iluv69s]

I had a 69 vert...327 auto...believe it may have been a 3 spd auto... did they make them??? i liked it because they didnt make too many 327's I dont think...daytona yellow...it had an interior fire .  i sold it to a bodyman from philly i think...not that all that matters...but it had a NBR tag also...and  an  0A build date...but I think the 0 in the date should be 10A ......it seems that the 1 is just cut off by the rivet hole...actually John Hooper stopped by my place years ago and took some pics of the cowl tag to that car...unforetunately I never took a pic of it. that stuff didnt really matter to me too much back then. I sold the car many moons ago...but I'll never forget that cowl tag...

  so yes...its factory...
i'm not the only one...its nice to finally have confirmation that I'm not crazy!!!

[mcp]

Thanks Iluv69s.  Thats exactly how I feel now...not crazy.  Thanks for your input and your luv for camaros. 

[67restoproj]

Heres another one on ebay built 2 cars before this one. VIN 124679N505518

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Convertible-/261137953814?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3ccd08f416

[Stingr69]

I have one built later that same week and it has the normative practice "NOR".  The "O" may have been lost earlier that week or the stamp may have been loaded wrong just for that one day?  Just throwing it out there as a possibillity.

-Mark.

[69Z28-RS]

What is someone buying with that last NBR convertible..  other than the trim tag?? 

[68Zproject]

That's nasty.

[KurtS]

Notice the "RED"written on the firewall. Looks original paint - most of that will buff out / away....

[jdv69z]

Vin's 505518 and 505520 builds appear to be closer to 09A than 10A? By 10A Vin's appear closer to the 514000 range. Body no.'s also correlate better to 09A.  0A Tag translates better to 09A than 10A?
Jimmy V.

[bertfam]

Vin's 505518 and 505520 builds appear to be closer to 09A than 10A? By 10A Vin's appear closer to the 514000 range. Body no.'s also correlate better to 09A.  0A Tag translates better to 09A than 10A?

Jimmy, per the 1969 BODY NUMBERING page:

Factory documentation indicates that the 1969 system used the central office order confirmation number as the body number and the analysis of vehicle data and documentation confirms this. This is the same number sent to the dealer as the order confirmation, used on body broadcast sheets in the IDENT number field, and that appears on the Window Sticker/Shipper. These numbers were unique for both Norwood (NOR) and Van Nuys (LOS or VN) in 1969 since they were assigned to the plants from a common pool of numbers (for example, 295460 was built at NOR (see the 69 tag picture) and 295461 may have been built at VN).
Orders were not built sequentially, but were scheduled by the assembly plant dependent on build component availability. Orders could be held for several weeks until the required components were available, e.g. 295460 may have been held for a several weeks due to a supply issue, where as 295461 may have been added to the build schedule right away. This makes the 1969 body numbers vary relative to the VIN numbers.

Due to the extended 1969 model year, the body numbers were reset in August 1969 to 100000 at Norwood (Van Nuys has ceased Camaro production by that point).

Ed

[jdv69z]

Ed, I understand the body numbers can vary widely. But how can a car with a 10A Tag have a VIN corresponding to VIN's from the 09A time frame? VIN 505520 is only the 5,520th Camaro thru the wall from Fisher to Chevrolet? By the end of Sep looks like 13,00 units or so were built or in production. It looks to me like the VIN precedes the Trim Tag?? Which I know it cannot.

Jimmy V.