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Adding a non-gauge console?

Started by bheston, March 17, 2018, 06:14:44 AM

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BULLITT65

I think most are a rough cut like that. Surprising they didn't have a template, jig, or something to make it clean and uniform. Seems like it would have taken more time with the ragged cut.
1969 garnet red Z/28 46k mile unrestored X77
-Looking for 3192477 (front) spiral shocks 3192851 (rear)
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Mike S

 My 67 has a nice stamped opening with a reinforced band spot welded around it for the shifter boot to screw into.
I guess it was cheaper to rough cut it afterwards. I'm surprised GM just didn't punch the opening and leave off the spot welded band.

Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

bheston

Quote from: HawkX66 on March 27, 2018, 01:32:50 PM
No, they were not a split nut. They're called a "rivnut."

My factory one:


You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the other side to show the crimp?  :)

HawkX66

Quote from: bheston on March 27, 2018, 03:34:18 PM
Quote from: HawkX66 on March 27, 2018, 01:32:50 PM
No, they were not a split nut. They're called a "rivnut."

My factory one:

I do, but I'll have to look for it.

You wouldn't happen to have a picture of the other side to show the crimp?  :)
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
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z28z11

Quote from: HawkX66 on March 27, 2018, 02:35:28 PM
Quote from: Mike S on March 27, 2018, 02:32:05 PM
Dave,

  Is that rough cut factory?

Mike
The 4 speed hole? Yes, that's factory cut.

That's a rough one - must have been a Monday after a long weekend, or a Friday in anticipation of a long weekend. I know they were torch cuts, had to have a pattern to trace the outline of the boot retainer (or maybe used the boot retainer as the pattern ?).

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

bheston

I haven't ripped-up the carpet to look, but is it safe to assume that there are dimples in the locations for the front console bracket even for non-console cars?

Kelley W King

If that is from the AIM evidently the line did not see that picture of the cut out. Were the standard 3 speeds cut like that also?
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69 SS L78
67 SS Chevelle
64 Corvette
66 GTO Tiger Gold
77 Trans Am Special Edition

z28z11

Quote from: bheston on March 29, 2018, 05:52:05 AM
I haven't ripped-up the carpet to look, but is it safe to assume that there are dimples in the locations for the front console bracket even for non-console cars?


Absolutely. I believe the dimples are in place for the Rivnuts as well - I'll look on my tunnel section I have in storage (non-console) for the rears, but I know beyond doubt the bracket dimples are there, Camaro or 'Bird either way. Had to save a bunch of time on the line to pop the holes in the dimple locations (same for firewall dimples).

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

KurtS

JohnZ says that the torch cut was so they didn't have to have another stamping for the floor. Three stampings were enough - the 3-speed and the auto and the column shift.
Kurt S
CRG

Mike S

 I would think the 3-speed (and 4 speed) and auto would be the same hole dimensions.
At least in 67 they look the same.

Mike
67 04B LOS SS/RS L35 Hardtop - Original w/UOIT
67 05B NOR SS/RS L35 Convertible - Restored

x66 714

The floor shift automatic in 68 and 69 had no hole for the shifter body itself. It was a plate mounted to the top of the floor...Joe
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1968 Z/28 Corvette Bronze. Black Hounds Tooth. 02E Los Angeles born 3/13/1968 pnt OO. Purchased March 1976
1969 SS396 Yellow/Yellow 08E Norwood born 8/28/1969 pnt 76E. Purchased April 1981

z28z11

Quote from: x66 714 on April 02, 2018, 08:09:53 PM
The floor shift automatic in 68 and 69 had no hole for the shifter body itself. It was a plate mounted to the top of the floor...Joe

Correct. One smaller hole for the shift cable through the floor, behind and above the shift lever on the side of the trans.

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

bheston

Still formulating my install plan.  The non-gauge console wiring harness generally is supplied with the repro consoles.  However, where is the wiring harness on the car side?  That is, I presume that a non-console car does not have the #1 harness shown in the AIM?  :-\  Below is a clip from the AIM.  Does anyone have pictures or routing of the harness?