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Door to Rocker alignment. End of adjustment.

Started by HawkX66, February 08, 2016, 11:52:06 AM

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firstgenaddict

Have you quartered the car? Are you going to?
If you are not then align your rear edge gap, leave the gaps a little larger than spec if the metal is bare.
I use gap spacers made from wooden dowels shaved to the correct thickness.
I tape them in place and usually leave the rear of the door about 3/16 high to compensate for weight of glass and regulators etc.

PERFECT GAPS require welding and filing.
James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
Current caretaker of 1971 LT1's - 11130 and 21783 Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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HawkX66

Quote from: firstgenaddict on February 13, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
Have you quartered the car? Are you going to?
If you are not then align your rear edge gap, leave the gaps a little larger than spec if the metal is bare.
I use gap spacers made from wooden dowels shaved to the correct thickness.
I tape them in place and usually leave the rear of the door about 3/16 high to compensate for weight of glass and regulators etc.

PERFECT GAPS require welding and filing.
Yes, new quarters. Assembled on a jig with OE rockers from another 69. It was the same before the work was done. I like your idea of the wood blocks. I'll make a few out of wood or plastic.
I'm not going for perfect gaps, just real close and symmetrical.
I'm going to leave the gaps about 1/16" larger to account for paint etc.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

Sauron327

Quote from: firstgenaddict on February 13, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
usually leave the rear of the door about 3/16 high to compensate for weight of glass and regulators etc.

I hang weight inside the door so it is "loaded". Now it can be gapped as it should be and bodylines aligned.

HawkX66

Quote from: Sauron327 on February 14, 2016, 11:44:11 AM
Quote from: firstgenaddict on February 13, 2016, 09:47:45 PM
usually leave the rear of the door about 3/16 high to compensate for weight of glass and regulators etc.

I hang weight inside the door so it is "loaded". Now it can be gapped as it should be and bodylines aligned.
How many lbs do you use?
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!

firstgenaddict

Accurately Loading the door would be difficult as weight from one end to other would vary the hang as the leverage would increase as the weight approaches the rear of the door (further from the fulcrum)

with that stated how much and where to place weight?
James
Collectin' Camaro's since "Only Rednecks drove them"
Current caretaker of 1971 LT1's - 11130 and 21783 Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://plus.google.com/photos/112392262205377424364/albums?banner=pwa

Sauron327

Quote from: firstgenaddict on February 16, 2016, 02:23:38 PM
Accurately Loading the door would be difficult as weight from one end to other would vary the hang as the leverage would increase as the weight approaches the rear of the door (further from the fulcrum)

with that stated how much and where to place weight?
20-25lbs and 2/3back. 67's have vent windows for which to accommodate too.  I'm aware of weight distribution and fulcrums and how they apply to tasks. I've done it your way too over the past 30 years, but leave them high after blocking and establishing midlines like on 7's and 8's, or any other model car. If show gaps are done on a car being delivered unassembled, I also tell customers to be careful opening a door set high as it may be very tight until loaded. Exact drop of a door may vary; I cannot predict the exact amount every door will drop after assembly..

If you set your doors .1875 high, then just add weight until it drops .1875.






Sauron327

Quote from: SgtHawkUSMC on February 14, 2016, 09:43:19 AM
I'm going to leave the gaps about 1/16" larger to account for paint etc.

Do not leave excessive primer on panel edges. Touch them off so as they have minimal mil thickness prior to sealing and topcoating.

HawkX66

Perfect. Thanks. I'll keep that in mind about the primer thickness. I know I have a tendency to leave it thicker.
Dave
69 SS396 X66 L34 M21 BS
Z23 711 U17 Hugger Orange
Semper Fi!