Grill emblem placement for a 1969 Z/28 RS vs Standard

[ko-lek-tor]

Untouched? http://www.legendarycollectorcars.com/2010/10/1969-camaro-rsz28-barn-find/

[jk1969z28]

Saw the Muscle Car Review cover online, does it look like it has a black bumper?  And are the headlight doors black and not painted as they should be? 

[Kelley W King]

If you guys are talking about the Fathom Green in Muscle Car Review. Look at the original engine except hoses and belts. I saw a 67 down oil fill tube and cap and the valve covers are on the wrong sides. Not sure I would say all original.

[jk1969z28]

So then I would submit that the Muscle Car Review cover car could be discounted as a good source regardless of where the emblem was located.  The barn find car has possibilities but I would rely more on pictures closer to the date of sale like the one in the link, that picture was taken very early in the cars life.  I would also like to caveat the purpose of this dialogue is not to tick anyone off, totally not the intention here, just would like to get this important fact correct because the Legend cars are what become the template for others to base their restorations.

Jerry K.

[jdv69z]

For what it's worth, here's mine. Never been off car since I've had it, but car has been re-painted, so no guarantee it's in the original location.

[jk1969z28]

Jimmy, Thank you for the contribution, and please I mean no disrespect, but your emblem has been off the car.  And you say "how can you tell mister smarty pants".  Well if you feel behind the Z there are guides that place the emblem on the vertical and horizontal location and behind the numbers there is a guide for placing on the horizontal location.  So the horizontal should split the emblem in half you'll see what I mean once you feel behind it.  I would even say, that in the link I posted the location of where the emblem on the Yellow car is now after restoration might be a click off, I don't think he has the vertical between the two guide marks on the "Z", but that is just from eyeballing it.

Regards,
Jerry K.

[jdv69z]

Didn't know that; I'll have to look. I do know the grill was replaced when the car was re-painted, so, yes, emblem has been off the car. And even though it's now on the car, apparently it's still "off"

[jk1969z28]

Jimmy thanks for not yelling at me    Be careful if you do decide to relocate the emblem, I've seen a post break before when removing the nut.  I'll let you decide if you should put it on the 2nd or 3rd vertical.


Jerry K.

[x77-69z28]

Also jimmy, the backing plate should be square. Yours is on a diagonal. It will actually line up with the bars of the grille. It is just off a smidge. When you move it, you will step back and say "that's it!"

[jk1969z28]

Interesting that both RS Z/28s that are for sale at Heartbeat City have the emblem on the third vertical, nice detailed photos of both cars by the way.

Jerry K.

[69Z28-RS]

After I purchased my car in 1976, the grill Z28 emblem didn't appear 'correct' to my eyes (not based on documentation, just 'appearance').. and I moved it to center it on the 3rd vertical.   As I recall, it only will go on 'properly' in specific locations (ie. positioning is not totally artitrary, as the little backing plate will only go on in certain locations).   Centered on the 3rd vertical is what appears 'correct' to me now, and appeared correct to me in '76..

[Vince]

Here is a picture of a photo the original owner of my '69 Z/28 RS sent me a few years ago.  It is a 01C car, was sold in Feb., 1969, and the photo was taken in Apr., 1969.  I can't imagine the grill emblem being moved from where the factory installed it with the car only being 3 months old from assembly date and 2 months old since being purchased new.  It looks a little high in the grill to me rather than being centered from top to bottom.  I'm just thinking that with the emblem being installed on the assembly line by humans, with no pre-drilled holes like sheet metal would have, the grill emblem might have been installed in a "general area" on the driver's side of the grill, on RS cars anyway. 

[Vince]

Arrrgghhh.  It says that my photo is too large to post.  Sorry guys.  I'm not that computer literate to know what to do now. 

[cook_dw]

Send it to me & Ill post it.

cook_dw @ hotmail.com

Take out the spaces on either side of the "@".

[cook_dw]

Here you go.