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Part Number Stamp or Sticker on 69 Wiper Motor Assy

Started by ZLP955, August 05, 2013, 05:16:14 AM

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ZLP955

I have a number of used '69 wiper motor assemblies and some have the part number 5045572 stamped on the end of the motor casing, and some have it on a silver foil sticker/label; the casing end just has Type E 12V on those with the label. The foil stickers are from later 69 production, judging by the julian date code on the stickers I have. The stamped casings don't appear to have a date code.
Would it be correct to think that motor assemblies changed over at some point from earlier motors having the assembly part number stamped, to later motors having it printed on a foil sticker, and if so, at what point in 69 production did the change occur? Was there a difference too between NOR and LOS/VN produced cars?
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

69Z28-RS

I can only provide one data point for a data base.  
My original 09C (*Sept 17, 1969) Z28 / RS  has the silver pn sticker and date code on the wiper motor.  
photo is attached.   Sticker PN:  5045605,    also has '227   9   6   A' printed on it.
'227   9  ' might be the Julian date and year (15 Aug '69), which would correspond well to my mid Sept built car, but that's just a guess on my part.
If you begin a data collection on this, I'd suggest collecting the car build date, RS or not, PN on the sticker, along with the other data, and maybe we can begin to make sense of the information?   eg.

Car build date        RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

      09C                     Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A


09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

ZLP955

Thanks Gary,
Yes, the date code (as I understand it) is:
Assembly Part #
Julian Date (Day)__Year__Factory Line__Shift Code

So in your case, the part # is for an RS wiper assembly * (mine, 5045572, is standard assembly for non-RS car).
Assembled 227th Day of 1969 on line # 6, 'A' shift (Day).

Just trying to determine if there was a changeover date, with a view to putting the correct one on my 04A car.

* (Before someone mentions it, I believe that a non-RS car could have had the #605 assembly if it had the headlamp washer option, but that was rare).
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

ZLP955

Perhaps we can start off some data point collection, following on from Gary's chart?
If we can add the sticker details here, it may start to indicate a date range for sticker use....
Gary - I also added in column for final assembly plant.
Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

      09C                                   Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
      ??                                     N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

69Z28-RS

Updating the list with my assembly plant (NOR)...

Perhaps we can start off some data point collection, following on from Gary's chart?
If we can add the sticker details here, it may start to indicate a date range for sticker use....
Gary - I also added in column for final assembly plant.
Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

       09C              NOR              Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                     N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

z28z11

Gary,

You might add another field to the features poll - I have a RS/5605 that it stamped, foil tagged and has a very faint yellow ink/paint stamp with the part number on the side of the case. Only one like it I have ever seen - I have 4 or 5 of them, but this is the only one with an original enough finish to show the rubber stamped part number. I'll try to get a pic of it during day light so it will show up -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

69Z28-RS

Steve,

Add your data to the listing for all your motors, and add the additional column.   easier now than when the list is larger *G*
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

ZLP955

Quote from: z28z11 on August 05, 2013, 10:06:26 PM
I have a RS/5605 that it stamped, foil tagged and has a very faint yellow ink/paint stamp with the part number on the side of the case.
Steve, it would be great if you can add your details to the list above; since your wiper motor has both a stamp and a sticker, it may be from around the time of the changeover - i.e. using up stocks of stamped casings at the same time the stickers were being added once the motors were assembled.
Cheers, Tim
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

crobjones2

 06A Nor SS nonRS  sticker only 5045572 134 9 6 B
Chris
69 SS 350

69Z28-RS

Updating the Windshield Wiper Motor data list with CROB's info..  since he didn't do it himself..  :)
(and I noticed the Julian date code on his motor is about a month prior to car build date, and stickers were used as early as May)

Please add your information to the bottom of the chart and repost for the data point collection....

Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes

       09C              NOR              Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                     N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
       06A               NOR             N         5045572                   N                      134      9     6      B

09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

z28z11


Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes            Ink or paint part #

       09C              NOR           Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                 N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
       06A              NOR           N         5045572                   N                      134      9     6      B
       01D              NOR           Y         5045605                   Y                      079      9     B      F     Yes - yellow





Z11 pacer

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

ZLP955

Steve, are you sure that wiper motor is original to the car, as a julian date of 079 and an 01D trim tag build date don't align? If the julian date on the motor assembly is model year, not calendar year, that doesn't seem to match well with the other data so far.....
The 'B F' at the end of the sticker throw the previous theory of factory line number and shift code a curve ball too....
Anyone have some ideas ???
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

z28z11

Quote from: ZLP955 on August 07, 2013, 02:24:01 AM
Steve, are you sure that wiper motor is original to the car, as a julian date of 079 and an 01D trim tag build date don't align? If the julian date on the motor assembly is model year, not calendar year, that doesn't seem to match well with the other data so far.....
The 'B F' at the end of the sticker throw the previous theory of factory line number and shift code a curve ball too....
Anyone have some ideas ???

Sign of over maturity - the inability to proof read posts. Never seen a Pace Car built in January ? I haven't either - in my struggle to copy and paste the table, I entered the wrong date code twice. It is an 03D car, my X77 in an 01C: somehow I married the two. I'll have to dig out the X77's motor - if I remember correctly (again, tough at my advanced age), it is a stamped car, no tag. We'll see -

Thanks for catching me sleeping -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

z28z11

Car build date    NOR/LOS      RS?       sticker PN?       Stamped PN?                 Other codes            Ink or paint part #

       09C              NOR           Y         5045605                   N                      227      9     6      A
       ??                                 N         5045572                   N                      282      9     6      B
       06A              NOR           N         5045572                   N                      134      9     6      B
       03D              NOR           Y         5045605                   Y                      079      9     B      F     Yes - yellow

Better -

Regards
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

HOT3O2

Is there a date code on the early one that don't have a sticker?  I have a 12B RS that I can't see a date code.

Rick
Rick
69 RS/Z28

69Z28-RS

Check it and post all the codes you can find..   PN, and all others.. and whether it's stamped into the metal, paint/ink
stamped on, or ??
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

HOT3O2

The part # on mine is 5045605 and then stamped on the side is 4918976  2. That's all I can seem to find.
Rick
69 RS/Z28

KurtS

build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes

    ??                           N        5045572           N             282  9  6  B
   03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y             079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
  06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
   09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N             227  9  6  A
Kurt S
CRG

copo


69Z28-RS

Copo, I've plugged in your data for you.   You didn't say if it was an RS, but I assume NOT?  and no stamped PN?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes
   03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y             079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
   06A         NOR                    5045572                           100  9  5  B
   06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
   09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N             227  9  6  A
    ??                           N        5045572            N            282  9  6  B
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

HOT3O2

OK I guess mine is: 12B, LOS, RS, No Sticker, PN-5045605, (Stamped on the side - 4918976  2)
Rick
69 RS/Z28

69Z28-RS

Windshield Wiper Motor PNs and markings including dates.
build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes


   12B         LOS           Y        No Sticker     5045605        No sticker      stamped on the side - 4918976  2)
   03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y             079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
   06A         NOR          N         5045572           Y            100  9  5  B
   06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
   09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N             227  9  6  A
    ??              ?           N        5045572            N             282  9  6  B
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

ZLP955

Ok thanks to everyone who provided data so far, and to Gary for keeping the table going; it looks like the stickers were around for mid-production timeframe, at least on NOR cars. 03D with a sticker date of 079 is the earliest so far.
Hopefully we can add to this as time goes on, and maybe even get some more LOS data too.
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

ZLP955

Got another one to add to the list, this (being dated '034') is the earliest yet:

Windshield Wiper Motor PNs and markings including dates.
build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes


   12B         LOS           Y        No Sticker     5045605        No sticker      stamped on the side - 4918976  2)
    ??            ??            N        5045572           Y             034  9  B  E
   03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y             079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
   06A         NOR          N         5045572           Y            100  9  5  B
   06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
   09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N             227  9  6  A
    ??              ?           N        5045572            N             282  9  6  B
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

69 Zee

You can add mine if needed

Build date    NOR/LOS      RS      Sticker P/N     Stamped P/N     Sticker Code
   03B            NOR           N        5045572            Y                053  9  6  A
'69 Z/28 RS Cortez silver/black with endura bumper, U46 option
'69 Z/28, X77 Dusk Blue, white top, all orig, under restoration
'69 Firebird all original 350 all power w/ac
'70 Plymouth Superbird, Limelight green, 45K miles

ZLP955

Thanks Darrell, I've added your data to the table:

Windshield Wiper Motor PNs and markings including dates.
build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes


  12B         LOS           Y        No Sticker     5045605        No sticker      stamped on the side - 4918976  2
   ??            ??            N        5045572           Y             034  9  B  E
  03B         NOR          N         5045572           Y             053  9  6  A
  03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y             079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
  06A         NOR          N         5045572           Y            100  9  5  B
  06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
  09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N             227  9  6  A
   ??              ?           N        5045572            N             282  9  6  B
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

6667ss138

Tim, here is my original wiper motor info. 07A X77D80  No part number stamped on the motor that I could find, sticker only
5045572
170  9 6 B
June 19th

ZLP955

Thanks 6667ss138 (sorry if I missed your name somewhere?), I've also added your data to the table:

Windshield Wiper Motor PNs and markings including dates.
build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes

  12B         LOS           Y        No Sticker     5045605        No sticker      stamped on the side - 4918976  2
   ??            ??            N        5045572           Y             034  9  B  E
  03B         NOR          N         5045572           Y            053  9  6  A
  03D         NOR          Y        5045605            Y            079  9  B  F     Part # in yellow paint
  06A         NOR          N         5045572           Y            100  9  5  B
  06A         NOR          N        5045572            N            134  9  6  B
  07A         NOR          N        5045572            N            170  9  6  B
  09C         NOR          Y        5045605            N            227  9  6  A
   ??              ?           N        5045572            N            282  9  6  B
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

crobjones2

Quote from: crobjones2 on August 06, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
06A Nor SS nonRS  sticker only 5045572 134 9 6 B

Tim, armed with new information my 06A would more than likely have been an 06C
Chris
69 SS 350

Boston14

Mine is;

build date  NOR/LOS    RS?    sticker PN?    Stamped PN?  Sticker codes       Notes

   11D          NOR         Y       No Sticker       5045605         No Sticker         
boston14

1969 SS/RS 350 Convertible
Dover White with Black Top and D90 stripe, Red Standard Interior

click

 Mine is 10D build LOS car, its an RS with 5045608 Stamped number, no sticker. RS solenoid is dated 10-28-68
Click is Jim , central Minn.  Moderator at Team Camaro www.camaros.net

69Z28-RS

09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

click

No typo. here is a pic of it, best one I have.

Click is Jim , central Minn.  Moderator at Team Camaro www.camaros.net

69Z28-RS

That's interesting...   first one we've had reported that didn't adhere to a consistent pattern, but yours is also the 'earliest' one reported to date.  We need some more early '69 RS WS wiper motor numbers to be reported to see when that PN might have changed..  Did you notice any other inconsistencies or differences with your unit over later units?
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

click

 I honestly never gave much attention to the wiper motor setup at all. So I cant offer any more info. on that. It appears to be the original unit but as you well know, nothing is 100% on these old cars but the dirt, overspray etc. all appeared similar all around the firewall.
If it makes any difference, which I doubt, its an LM1 car too. 350/255, single exhaust,  several options like am/fm flip face radio with single speaker in dash, fold down rear seat, power front disc brakes, a/c , vinyl top. Kurt, Mark and several others know my old car, current owner is looking to put in an LS1 over the winter. :)
Click is Jim , central Minn.  Moderator at Team Camaro www.camaros.net

ZLP955

Been a while since I reviewed this thread, but was contacted by a member who suggested that maybe the changeover from stamped number to foil sticker is connected with the manufacturing plant that the wiper motor assemblies came from.
I hadn't spotted this before, but the motor casings appear to have 2 different stampings after the 'DELCO PRODUCTS':
Either 'DAYTON OHIO, USA' or 'ROCHESTER, N.Y. USA'
From the limited data points in the last updated table, it's impossible to identify when the stickers were actually introduced, but it would appear that there was a transition during the model year, possibly something like this:
Stamped P/N only (early)---------Stamped P/N and Sticker (mid)------------Sticker only (late)
Wonder if wiper motor production was switched from Dayton to Rochester during production, or if both manufactured motor assemblies throughout?
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

69Z28-RS

OK..  I took a whack at changing this table to make it more clear, and added 'Dayton note' for my own..

Windshield Wiper Motor PNs and markings including dates.

build   NOR   RS?   sticker     Stamped      Sticker        (Notes)
date    LOS   Not?     PN?         PN?           codes
-----   -----    ----    ---------    -----------      ----------      --------------------------------
10D    LOS   RS       none      5045608                       (RS solenoid dtd 10-28-68)
11D   NOR    RS      none      5045605  
12B   LOS     RS      none      5045605                         (stamped - 4918976 2_
??      NOR   Not      none      5045572      034 9 B E
03B   NOR   Not   5045572     none           053 9 6 A
03D   NOR    RS   5045605     none           079 9 B F   (Part # in yellow paint)
06A   NOR   Not       none     5045572       100 9 5 B
06A   NOR   Not       none     5045572       134 9 6 B
07A   NOR   Not       none     5045572       170 9 6 B
09C   NOR    RS    5045605       none        227 9 6 A   (Delco, Dayton)
??     NOR   Not    5045572       none        282 9 6 B
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

JohnZ

My all-original 02D non-RS '69 has the mylar sticker with the part number, and the motor is stamped Delco Products.
'69 Z/28
Fathom Green
CRG

69Z28-RS

John,

Can you read the numbers on that sticker?   (I'd like to add all the numbers on the sticker to the table)...
( I tried to glean the numbers from your photo, but wasn't able to do so)..
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

janobyte

68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

cook_dw


ko-lek-tor

Bentley to friends :1969 SS/RS 396 owned 79
1969 SS 350 (sold)
1969 D.H.COPO replica 4spd. owned since 85
1967 302 4 spd 5.13

z28z11

Quote from: click on October 12, 2014, 08:43:13 AM
No typo. here is a pic of it, best one I have.



Ahh - the dreaded fracture and loss of the hose bib and lower end of the valve body - seen many of them this way. Buy the lower piece from Impala Bob's and put 'er back together - at least he used to sell the lower half, with a new needle, to those of us with incomplete valves. Worth a shot, because finding an intact original is like buying a ton of unobtanium. Just my opinion -

Regards -
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

janobyte

Quote from: ko-lek-tor on January 20, 2015, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: cook_dw on January 20, 2015, 02:33:57 PM
Quote from: janobyte on January 20, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
you just looking for 69's ?

68's arent cool enough for some of these guys.. ;D

Did they make a 68? ;D ;D ;D

Best flowing heads of the 3 years ( 302's) per a very reliable source.  To the thread: if you need 68 #'s let me know, looks like a 69 post.
68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

69Z28-RS

Quote from: janobyte on January 20, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
you just looking for 69's ?

Jano,  it appeared that sometime during 1969, the wipers went from a 'stamped' PN, to a sticker with PN and mfg dates on it.. that was basically what we were trying to glean from the data.  If you have a '68 with a stamped PN, that is as we expect, if you have a '68 with a 'stickered PN', then we'd like to see it and modify our table appropriately.
we were also confirming the two PN's (between RS and non RS wipers)...
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

janobyte

stamped ,as you know ( don't have to pull the part out of storage for this one ,LOL) side note...car's never been in the rain or snow( at least since 76 ,and reported prior...it was always a toy) Honestly I don't know if the wipers work because I've never seen them operated ! It'll get a bench test before reassembly.
68 Z/28  born with: 302, drive line, etc..

ZLP955

Quote from: janobyte on January 20, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
you just looking for 69's ?
Yup, as far as I know, the 68's all used a stamped part number, 5045441 for non-RS (and I don't recall the RS version part number off the top of my head). Am not aware of a date code on them, although I have seen some ink-stamped numbers on certain motor casings; maybe the next member research effort?
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

ZLP955

Quote from: JohnZ on January 20, 2015, 11:13:21 AM
My all-original 02D non-RS '69 has the mylar sticker with the part number, and the motor is stamped Delco Products.
John, looks like yours is stamped from Rochester NY, not Dayton OH; if you could confirm the assembly date code on the sticker, that'd be a solid data point, as your car is so original.
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

68camaroz28

Quote from: ZLP955 on January 21, 2015, 03:41:24 AM
Quote from: janobyte on January 20, 2015, 01:48:57 PM
you just looking for 69's ?
Yup, as far as I know, the 68's all used a stamped part number, 5045441 for non-RS (and I don't recall the RS version part number off the top of my head). Am not aware of a date code on them, although I have seen some ink-stamped numbers on certain motor casings; maybe the next member research effort?
The early ones I've looked at had yellow ink stampings with the Julian day and year but yes a different project! :)
Chick
68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584

ZLP955

Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

JohnZ

Quote from: ZLP955 on January 21, 2015, 03:45:11 AM
John, looks like yours is stamped from Rochester NY, not Dayton OH; if you could confirm the assembly date code on the sticker, that'd be a solid data point, as your car is so original.

The sticker says "5045572  036 9 B F"  (that's February 5th, car was built February 27th).
'69 Z/28
Fathom Green
CRG

69Z28-RS

#51
I'm only trying to add JohnZ's data, but having mucho trouble with the table formatting..  Could someone who knows how to do this in the cRG s/w please correct it?  :)


build   NOR      RS?          sticker          Stamped      Sticker            (Notes)
date    LOS      Not?           PN?              PN?           codes
-----   -----        ----           ---------         -----------      ----------      --------------------------------
               
10D      LOS        RS    5045608                                          RS solenoid dtd 10-28-68
11D      NOR     RS                         5045605         
12B     LOS      RS                          5045605            stamped - 4918976 2
??      NOR   non RS                         5045572   034 9 B E      
02D     NOR   non RS                           5045572     036 9 B F      Rochester   
03B     NOR   non RS   5045572                      053 9 6 A      
03D     NOR     RS    5045605                      079 9 B F       Part # in yellow paint
06A     NOR   non RS                           5045572   100 9 5 B      
06A     NOR   non RS                          5045572   134 9 6 B      
07A     NOR   non RS                          5045572   170 9 6 B      
09C     NOR     RS    5045605                       227 9 6 A        Dayton   
??      NOR   non RS   5045572                       282 9 6 B      
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

z28z11

Quote from: 69Z28-RS on January 23, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
I'm only trying to add JohnZ's data, but having mucho trouble with the table formatting..  Could someone who knows how to do this in the cRG s/w please correct it?  :)

build   NOR      RS?          sticker          Stamped      Sticker            (Notes)
date    LOS      Not?           PN?              PN?           codes
-----   -----        ----           ---------         -----------      ----------      --------------------------------
               
10D    LOS         RS       5045608                                                   RS solenoid dtd 10-28-68
11D    NOR       RS      5045605         
12B    LOS       RS       5045605                                                 stamped - 4918976 2
??      NOR   non RS       5045572          034 9 B E      
02D    NOR   non RS        5045572        036 9 B F                             Rochester   
03B    NOR   non RS      5045572        053 9 6 A      
03D    NOR       RS       5045605          079 9 B F                                Part # in yellow paint
06A    NOR   non RS       5045572          100 9 5 B      
06A    NOR   non RS      5045572          134 9 6 B      
07A    NOR   non RS      5045572          170 9 6 B      
09C    NOR       RS       5045605        227 9 6 A                             Dayton   
???     NOR   non RS      5045572        282 9 6 B      



I tried -
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

69Z28-RS

Steve,  you did better aligning the values than I did, but some of the PNs were *stamped* in the metal as opposed to printed on a sticker.  I've got it organized in WORD, as well as EXCEL, but I can't figure out how to 'paste' it into a reply here on CRG....   ???

09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

z28z11

#54
Quote from: z28z11 on January 24, 2015, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: 69Z28-RS on January 23, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
I'm only trying to add JohnZ's data, but having mucho trouble with the table formatting..  Could someone who knows how to do this in the cRG s/w please correct it?  :)

build   NOR      RS?          sticker          Stamped      Sticker            (Notes)
date    LOS      Not?           PN?              PN?           codes
-----   -----        ----           ---------         -----------      ----------      -------------------------------
               
10D    LOS         RS       5045608                                                 RS solenoid dtd 10-28-68
11D    NOR       RS                            5045605          
12B    LOS       RS                             5045605                            stamped - 4918976 2
??      NOR   non RS                          5045572 034 9 B E      
02D    NOR   non RS                        5045572  036 9 B F             Rochester   
03B    NOR   non RS      5045572                         053 9 6 A      
03D    NOR       RS       5045605                         079 9 B F              Part # in yellow paint
06A    NOR   non RS                          5045572     100 9 5 B      
06A    NOR   non RS                         5045572     134 9 6 B      
07A    NOR   non RS                         5045572      170 9 6 B      
09C    NOR       RS       5045605                          227 9 6 A             Dayton   
???     NOR   non RS      5045572                          282 9 6 B      



I tried - again
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

ZLP955

^ Thanks to Steve and Gary for updating the table - I had the same issues previously, seemed to be trial and error as it often looked different between the editing screen (aligned well) and when posted (jumbled up).......
Darrell kindly put it into a spreadsheet, but unless the spreadsheet can be posted here, we'd have to rely on him, or someone with a copy, updating it and posting a screen grab of it.
I'll look into how to create tables in HTML code.
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

KurtS

Kurt S
CRG

ZLP955

Not familiar with that Kurt but will check it out - thanks!
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

KurtS

Kurt S
CRG

69Z28-RS

We were actually TRYING to SHOW the spreadsheet data HERE, Kurt...   :)   not drop a link for everyone to find.. :)

oh.. and aren't you an 'old fart' too?  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

KurtS

#60
Just update the spreadsheet via this link and the image below will auto update: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13qjSpOJteeJnWsQ5tO6sepTRyMEs2f7qH3gmWRxpbHE/edit?usp=sharing

Kurt S
CRG

ZLP955

Kurt, thank you for uploading the spreadsheet; I will do my best to update it whenever I can (subject to new data points provided by members here). I guess a screenshot would allow others to see the data easily, so I can do that too. Obviously anyone else who wants to help can do updates too.

Perhaps to refresh the original question, maybe we could try and home in on further data points in the apparent gap in the (very limited) dates so far; it looks as though the stickers were introduced between 12B and some time around 02D. Maybe it's as simple as 01A, with a sticker Julian date code of '001'.
If anyone has an original wiper motor on a car assembled between 12B and 02D, that data would be very helpful!

As for the part number that Jim posted (5045608) I am kicking myself because I saw a car for sale on eBay that had the exact same number on it's wiper motor. I was in a hurry so I added the listing to my watched items for later, but somehow seem to have deleted it....... As far as I can recall, it wasn't a Chevrolet model, but a Pontiac - although of course it may not have been OE for that make or model.
Tim in Australia.
1969 04A Van Nuys Z/28. Cortez Silver, Dark Blue interior, VE3, Z21, Z23, D55/U17, D80, flat hood.
Sold at Clippinger Chevrolet in Covina, CA.
AHRA Formula Stock at Lions Dragstrip, NHRA E/MP at Pomona Raceway

69Z28-RS

Quote from: KurtS on January 26, 2015, 12:02:53 AM
I'm done.
<iframe src="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13qjSpOJteeJnWsQ5tO6sepTRyMEs2f7qH3gmWRxpbHE/pubhtml?widget=true&amp;headers=false" width="650" height="550"></iframe>

Thanks Kurt!!  :)    Was posting the table as simple as taking a 'screenshot' image and posting that?   If I'd known that was how, I could have done it..  everything I tried didn't work..  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

KurtS

You could have posted a screen shot.
I posted that actual table. Any updates will appear on the table - it's live and updateable.
Kurt S
CRG

69Z28-RS

Quote from: KurtS on January 26, 2015, 03:54:41 PM
You could have posted a screen shot.
I posted that actual table. Any updates will appear on the table - it's live and updateable.

Fantastic..!  :)   no wonder you're the honcho here...  :)
09C 69Z28-RS, 72 B 720 cowl console rosewood tint
69 Corvette, '60 Corvette, '72 Corvette
90 ZR1 red/red #246, 90 ZR1 white/gray #2466
72 El Camino, '55-'56-'57 Nomads, '55-'57 B/A Sedan

cook_dw

Figured I bring up an old thread..  Does anyone out there besides myself and Chick that has a 68 that still has the ink stamp on it?  I discovered mine today but there is a portion I can not make out..

All I can see is 45 68..




jdv69z

I have a question related to the wiper motors, so I guess it's OK to post here? I have a 69 Rally Sport, but the head lamp washer solenoid is missing. Shouldn't  there be an electrical plug in still there somewhere to operate the solenoid? Does it come from the wiper unit, or is it a separate part of the wiring harness?
Jimmy V.

KevinW

There was a special pigtail wiring from the washer terminals to the soleniod.  Ricks has them repro, part #33-180005-1

http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-headlight-washer-pump-wiring-harness-rally-sport-rs-1969.html

z28z11

Quote from: jdv69z on August 13, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
I have a question related to the wiper motors, so I guess it's OK to post here? I have a 69 Rally Sport, but the head lamp washer solenoid is missing. Shouldn't  there be an electrical plug in still there somewhere to operate the solenoid? Does it come from the wiper unit, or is it a separate part of the wiring harness?

The supply wires piggyback from the wiper motor terminals themselves - easy hookup -

Assembly manual is fairly vague for the CE3 installation -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

crobjones2

Quote from: crobjones2 on October 10, 2014, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: crobjones2 on August 06, 2013, 08:03:05 PM
06A Nor SS nonRS  sticker only 5045572 134 9 6 B

Tim, armed with new information my 06A would more than likely have been an 06C
Rochester NY
Chris
69 SS 350

crobjones2

I noticed that the data on page 3 does not match the data on page 4...
Chris
69 SS 350

Red955i

Don't know if there's a newer thread than this but....My car is a Pace Car (RS) Built 03B. Wiper Motor has 5045605 stamped on front and has a silver tag 5045605 037 9 B F Rochester Plant

Hans L

Older thread - have a few questions and adding my wiper motor data -

Question - For LOS cars, if the wiper motor is stamped with a PN, does that imply it did not get a sticker?   

From the very limited data set, this appears to be the case.   I found no evidence of sticker when I removed the wiper motor back in the day.

Data from my car:
Build Week:   LOS/NOR:   RS/NonRS    Sticker PN   Stamp PN   Sticker Codes    Wiper Motor Plant    Other
   04B                  LOS              RS                -                5045605            -                    Rochester                See Solenoid PIC Below for codes

Washer Pump:
<a href="https://app.photobucket.com/u/jwlittooy/a/9fc3c05d-1e86-4845-82cf-1d16732c0e05/p/a7179038-67f4-4132-9c8f-8c40d1052f6a?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds" target="_blank">RSWasherPump4_zps95238ca5</a>

Wiper Motor:
<a href="https://app.photobucket.com/u/jwlittooy/a/aa505d10-0ec5-4419-969e-f4b240264f62/p/9624f764-e1bb-4410-90e4-28458f843e1b?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds" target="_blank">IMG_2545</a>
https://www.instagram.com/69camarorsz28/
'69 Camaro RS Z/28 Van Nuys Built
'69 Chevelle SS 396 4 Speed
'70 Camaro SS L78

David K

While not a 69, I got my "new" original and all parts working with the Julian date on it. -Thanks to Pace Car Jeff.

COPOZ/28

Just discovered this older post on Wiper Motors and thought I'd add my info.  Hadn't realized wiper motors were date code until just recently.  I'm the 2nd owner of this '69 Z28 and bought it from my best friend's older brother in 1979.  I helped him get prices on the car from several Detroit area dealers on his behalf, but he ordered from Snyder Chevrolet in Defiance, OH.  It was delivered to him on 6/9/69.  The car had 5,172 at the time I bought it from him and it had not been licensed since 1973.  I've been very familiar with this car since before Day 1.  Given all this, I'm as sure as anyone can be that this is the original wiper motor that's still on the car today.

I am not sure how this new data gets added to the wiper motor date code chart Kurt has uploaded.  Perhaps someone can do that?

Body Build Week: 05E
Assy Plant: NOR
Vehicle Type: Non-RS
Sticker p/n 5045572
Stamped p/n: Yes, also 5045572
Sticker codes: 106 9 B F
Wiper Plant: Rochester
Chuck B.
Ice cream run in our unrestored '69 Z/28 on Woodward Ave. in Royal Oak, MI.
Daytona Yellow, NOR 05E, Born on June 2, w/X33, M22 and 4.88 'BX' Axle via COPO 9511CB.
(Need Speedo Adapter p/n 6476736 - 0.777 ratio.  Have 6476735 - 0.824 ratio and 1565215 - 0.950 ratio to trade)

KurtS

#75
I think I got all the updates. I added Red's, Han's, and Chuck's info.
Access and update the spreadsheet via this link and the image below will auto update: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13qjSpOJteeJnWsQ5tO6sepTRyMEs2f7qH3gmWRxpbHE/edit?usp=sharing
Just put the new data on the bottom of the sheet and I can move it later.

Kurt S
CRG

zbo2


KurtS

Is the part # stamped on the end plate and/or on the sticker? Which Delco plant (see Chuck's picture above)?
Thanks!
Kurt S
CRG

rich69rs

Norwood, O1C, RS

Stamped numbers on end of motor:  5045605, Type E, 12v
Stamped wording on side of motor:  Delco Products, Rochester N.Y. USA  (Couldn't get a very good picture - brake booster is in the way - but you can make out "N.Y. USA" at the end of the stamping.

Richard
Richard Thomas
1969 RS

KurtS

#79
Here's a picture of my 01B wiper solenoid. The date is easy to read 9.19.68. The part # looks like 4919508 - I don't find that in the parts manuals so it may be an subassembly part #.
I also found some data at https://www.camaros.net/threads/wiper-motor-numbers-please.75545/ and incorporated that into the sheet.
I updated the sheet to make the data clearer.  The stickers started in February, the stamped end plate data needs some confirmations but it's clearly mixed with and without in the later cars.
Kurt S
CRG

KurtS

Here's two pictures of an 02D RS solenoid. No sticker on the motor.
Kurt S
CRG

KurtS

Here's the picture of an 05A sticker on the wiper. I forgot to check the end plate. ;)

And I updated the table.
Kurt S
CRG

x66 714

I thought I contributed to this discussion, but I didn't. Should be the original since wiper motors don't wear out in southern Arizona :) ....Joe

08E
Non r/s
Nor
No end cap number. just says Type E
5045572 on sticker
199 9 6 B
Delco Products
See America's First, Chevrolet

1968 Z/28 Corvette Bronze. Black Hounds Tooth. 02E Los Angeles born 3/13/1968 pnt OO. Purchased March 1976
1969 SS396 Yellow/Yellow 08E Norwood born 8/28/1969 pnt 76E. Purchased April 1981

JAL69Z

Adding to the post as well, mine is 9E 5045605 RS solenoid is not anywhere I can find. Sticker is super hard to read but will keep trying.

KurtS

You can access and update the spreadsheet via this link and the image below will auto update: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13qjSpOJteeJnWsQ5tO6sepTRyMEs2f7qH3gmWRxpbHE/edit?usp=sharing

Or I'll enter it.


Joe,
Which Delco Products plant (stamped on the side)?

JAL,
Stamped PN?    Sticker PN?    Sticker codes   Wiper Plant?
Can you confirm the part # is stamped on the end of the wiper. Sound like you do have the sticker but can't read it. Which Delco plant?
Kurt S
CRG

x66 714

Dayton Kurt. Almost can't see anything b/c it's so faint....Joe
See America's First, Chevrolet

1968 Z/28 Corvette Bronze. Black Hounds Tooth. 02E Los Angeles born 3/13/1968 pnt OO. Purchased March 1976
1969 SS396 Yellow/Yellow 08E Norwood born 8/28/1969 pnt 76E. Purchased April 1981