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68 Tilt column loose & turn signal switch removal

Started by Ue, January 09, 2016, 10:04:57 PM

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HOGDADDY

Quote from: z28z11 on October 27, 2021, 10:50:50 PM
There are four critical tools to use in disassembly and reassembly - look at your Service Manual for the numbers of the pivot pin tool, special socket and the bowl (reassembly) driver, which keeps you from bending or crushing the collar when you drive it back in place after replacing the switch. I wish you luck in finding that one - that REALLY took a good while to locate.

Regards,
Steve

The pivot pin remover tool (J-21854) is available but I see where people have improvised here with other tools.

I have found several bowl drivers (J-21853).

J-22599 is available also if that is the socket your referring to.

z28z11

Quote from: HOGDADDY on October 29, 2021, 10:09:13 AM
Quote from: z28z11 on October 27, 2021, 10:50:50 PM
There are four critical tools to use in disassembly and reassembly - look at your Service Manual for the numbers of the pivot pin tool, special socket and the bowl (reassembly) driver, which keeps you from bending or crushing the collar when you drive it back in place after replacing the switch. I wish you luck in finding that one - that REALLY took a good while to locate.

Regards,
Steve

The pivot pin remover tool (J-21854) is available but I see where people have improvised here with other tools.

I have found several bowl drivers (J-21853).

J-22599 is available also if that is the socket your referring to.

Yep. The 21854 tool is the pin installer as well (works both ways). There is one more tool, I'll have to dig it out for the number, looks like a very narrow screwdriver that's used on the retaining pins to push them out of the assembly. I'll try to locate it today and take a pic -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

z28z11

The J-22635 pictured os the one I mentioned - you could probably fabricate one to take it's place ( I found this one for cheap so I added it to the toolbox).

Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

HOGDADDY

What about the lock nut socket (Kent Moore j-22599) ? What size is this and can I make one with an old socket?

HOGDADDY

Pic of above mentioned socket. Looks like I  could cut down a 12-point socket possibly?

z28z11

I'll measure mine and determine what the diameter of the nut is - it's either really thin wall to reach inside the knuckle, or a special diameter nut or number of points. I have the one for '69 and up, I'll measur that one, too. Gotta be a reason why K-M made a special socket when a modified standard would work. I'll check it out -

Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

z28z11

I think it's both thin wall and a special diameter nut. Flat to flat inside measures .950", point to point is .974". Wall thickness over a flat is .072", over a point is .065". The nearist socket would be a 61/64ths, or somewhere north of 24mm metric, like 24.1 to 24.7. I knew they would make it for a reason -

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

HOGDADDY

Thank for the info on the socket. I am gonna check this out further when I tear down the column.

HOGDADDY

So I since I had the tool to remove bowl only made sense to get installer too!
This is one stout chunk of plastic.

z28z11

That's it - and it is a big chunk of plastic. Mine looked gruesome when I got it, cleaned up very well (but yours looks almost new). I couldn't gripe about the price - it was less than $20, probably 'cause it was filthy. Now, the real trick - if your pins are worn, finding new ones is gonna be a challenge. I've got a guy here locally that can possibly make a set if mine are bad (i've got 2 columns to rebuild).

Regards,
Steve
1968 Z28 M21/U17 BRG/W 1967 Chevy ll Nova SS 
1969 Z28 X77/M20/VE3 LeMans/W
1969 L78 X66/N66 Cortez/BVT
1969 Z11 L48/M35/C60/C06  1949 3100 5wd 235/6

HOGDADDY

I have 2 also:
One is tilt the other non-tilt but both are floor shift.
Hopefully the pins don't need replacing on the tilt.

HOGDADDY

Support fixture J-22573 for column in vise and some amber color lithium grease I believe will do for re-assembly.