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#4172
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' 302 CE numbers
February 19, 2013, 10:04:19 PM
Yes, 2 bolt and 4 bolt CE blocks.  I have one 4 bolt CE 427, one 4 bolt CE 396/402, several 2 bolt CE v396s, one 2 bolt CE 402, one 2 bolt CE 454.
#4173
I agree with Kurt, I think it is C BU.

I am starting to think more that the 3 letter code started when the casting number changed to 3969341.  But more data points are needed.
#4174
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' 302 CE numbers
February 13, 2013, 08:12:19 PM
I agree with John completely. 

I have never seen anything other than the original CE stamp on the pad for the 68 model year and later. Dealers may have noted the CE assembly number on the warranty paperwork.  But that probably varied from one dealer to another.

Earlier pads were left blank.  But I am pretty sure the earlier blocks still received that assembly date stamp down on the pan rail/oil filter area.   

It has been a while since I have seen a blank pad warranty engine.

#4175
Quote from: restore-z28 on February 10, 2013, 03:20:45 PM
Build date 08E (Z28)
Casting number 3969341
Assembly stamp CBU 0828 G2
Casting date H139

Thanks! 
#4176
Quote from: 69Z28-RS on January 14, 2013, 12:22:18 AM
My 09C Z28/RS has the 3969341 rear, stamped BU0828

Gary

Gary, is it stamped BU or CBU?  The one Kurt posted had a casting date earlier than yours and it used the 3 letter code. 

I am just trying to see if maybe the casting date change corresponded with the change from 2 letter codes to 3 letter codes.
#4177
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' 302 CE numbers
February 11, 2013, 09:43:50 PM
Thanks Gary!  

What I find the most interesting in that Tonawanda letter is the part where is says...

It should be noted that the service identification number is required in addition to date stamp markings currently put on service assemblies.

I believe the "date stamp markings" are what referred to above as "something like T097 - T for Tonawanda, 09 for month (September) and 7 for last digit of year (1967 in this case)".

If you find any other documents which might clarify this, please post those too.

Bryon
#4178
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 69' 302 CE numbers
February 09, 2013, 12:09:54 PM
Gary if you ever find that GM Directive, I would be interested in seeing it.

From what I have seen, big blocks at Tonawanda generally did not receive a letter in the CE stamp, because fewer were produced and thus in general there was not a need to reuse the numbers.  There may be some cases where they were reused but I have not seen any.

Also from what I have seen, big blocks from Tonawanda received a stamp down on the pan rail near the oil filter area, which seems to be an assembly date stamp.  This would be something like T097 - T for Tonawanda, 09 for month (September) and 7 for last digit of year (1967 in this case).  I am looking for documentation of this.  I am only going off of what I could determine from the blocks that I have.
#4179
Decoding/Numbers / Re: 68 Camaro 4-speed Saginaw tranny
February 09, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
I agree with Ed.  $750 for a Saginaw is WAY too high.  Normally they are $200 or less around here and if rebuilt and nice maybe $400. 
#4180
Decoding/Numbers / Re: Engine Stamp
February 09, 2013, 11:46:12 AM
Dean, I will just say this.  If the VIN is a restamp, it really doesn't matter if the assembly date/suffix stamp is real or not.  The block has been messed with, therefore no original.
#4181
Keep the information flowing guys. Thanks for the replies so far!
#4182
L89 is an option, but there is a different application suffix code for L89 engine. 

In 1968, the L78 code for Camaro and Nova is MQ.  It is MT for the L89 396/375hp Camaro.
#4183
Originality / Re: Early bird special.
January 22, 2013, 03:28:05 PM
That's a VERY COOL photo John.  Thanks for sharing.
#4184
09A Dusk Blue Z28 124379N680789
12-bolt 3:73 Posi:
assembly stamp C BU 0828
                          E
Casting # 3969341
#4185
It appears that 12 bolt rear axles with casting number 3969341 started showing up in 69 Camaros sometime around early August of 1969.  Prior to this, only the 3894860 casting number was used.  

What I am looking for are dates (casting date of housing and assembly date stamp - with letter codes - on the axle tube) for early 3969341 axles and late 3894860 axles.  If you know it is original to the car, you can post the body assembly date from the cowl tag too.

Please let me know what you have.  Post pics if possible.  There was probably somewhat of an overlap, but not sure how much.    

Thanks in advance!

Bryon