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For years Steve would collect photos and send to me, then I would pick different ones for the ones on the homepage. We use a 67, 68 and 69. I don't change these as often as I used to. When I was getting frequent submissions I would change every 1 or 2 months.

If you would like to submit a pic for possible inclusion on the homepage, post one in this thread.

Guidelines.

1. Car only, no people.

2. Try to get a side shot or angled. Not direct front or rear pics.

3. Do not crop the image. I will do that. If the image is not high enough resolution I will email you and ask for a full size pic.

I already have a new 69 pic.

Thanks in advance.

This topic has been moved to Garage Talk.

There were optional hood lights for all 3 years.

For the hood report, still in progress, we need some original under hood light detailed photos. If possible try to show the back part of the hood and the light, plus close up pics of the light.

Thanks in advance.

Replacement POP. Does not show any drivetrain information.

Supposedly from an SS but no other docs or proof.

We were able to put together a new report on cylinder heads and post it. Thank you everyone for your help.

http://www.camaros.org/cylinderheads.shtml

These take a lot of time and effort but in the long riling well worth it.

We need pics of original cowl hoods without the underhood insulation attached.

William has identified an two types, an early design and a second design. The changes are to the under structure.

If you can post good clear pics or send directly to me, we would appreciate it. The front half of the hood is the most important to highlight.

Thanks in advance. It is very hard to find good clear pics.

[Because text messaging cannot accurately convey tone, emotion, facial expressions, gestures, body language, eye contact, oral speech, or face-to-face conversation, it is likely messages will be misinterpreted or misunderstood. The real meaning of your message gets lost through the medium.]

We all know that it is WAY different to communicate with someone via text or written messages such as in this forum or in emails.  Here is an interesting short article to read.

https://www.scribendi.com/academy/articles/miscommunication_and_texting.en.html

And one of the most important parts is this

Because text messaging cannot accurately convey tone, emotion, facial expressions, gestures, body language, eye contact, oral speech, or face-to-face conversation, it is likely messages will be misinterpreted or misunderstood. The real meaning of your message gets lost through the medium.

Please don't automatically assume that someone means to be negative or condescending, it may just be miscommunication.

Does anyone have an original car with either head usage?

041 heads on a Z28.

186 heads on an L48 - SS 350.

I am working on a report for 67-69 Camaro cylinder head usage. I have the SBC and BBC numbers pretty much done, but I am struggling a bit with the L6 heads.

I assume that the 230 and 250 engines used the same head and probably the same casting number all 3 years, but can any of you verify?

Include
1. The head casting number
2. The casting date
3. Year of the engine.

Thanks in advance. If you photos are used, you will be giving credit.

I am working on a report for 67-69 Camaro cylinder head usage. I have the SBC and BBC numbers pretty much done, but I am struggling a bit with the L6 heads.

I assume that the 230 and 250 engines used the same head and probably the same casting number all 3 years, but can any of you verify?

Include
1. The head casting number
2. The casting date
3. Year of the engine.

Thanks in advance. If you photos are used, you will be giving credit.

I have a question on the correct application for these SW speedometer adapters.  Also were there at least two suppliers and two types - SW and AC?

.7333 dated N4 - 1969 April - possibly for COPOs with 14 inch tires and L78 with 4.10 gears?

.8241 dated N11 - 1969 November - possibly for 1970 Z28 with 4.10 and LS6 Chevelles?

I asked my dad about these and where they might have come from, but he is pretty old and could not remember exactly.

I think those are the two most valuable. I have 2 others with different ratios and dates shown in the pics, dated R - 1972 and V - 1976. 

Saw these pics on one of the Camaro Facebook pages.

This I was originally ordered by the grandfather of someone looking for the car.

Base V8 327 car.

Note the error - the first digit of the VIN is not 1 - it's 1/2

Check out this firewall pic from Jose's car. He will probably post more about what he is finding.

This topic has been moved to 1967 - Orphans.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=19813.0

This car is the earliest 68 Antwerp Camaro that we know of so far.

I am starting this thread and will let the owner post some things about the car. I am hoping he will also consider posting at least a little about a 67 that he knows about.

Enjoy!

I am not speaking for anyone else, but I am giving my opinions.

Took some hate email yesterday for being honest, probably harshly honest, but I needed to speak my mind.

The database was setup as a research tool, not for "every Tom, Dick, and Harry" to inquire if CRG has data on a specific car. The number of people with access is very limited, and that's done by design. Some of that data was collected with the owner expecting the information to be kept confidential, some was pulled off the internet (eBay, Facebook, etc.), some collected by CRG members from personal inspections and by other means. And it's not necessarily explicitly explained out as to "what is what" in the database.

If someone has questions about a car for sale, the appropriate way to ask would be something like this.

Hey guys I saw this car for sale, I am interested in buying it and wondered what your thoughts are on it.

If you are wanting opinions about original drivetrain components, post pics.

If you are really interested in buying the car, be careful not to share too much information. Someone else may to buy it before you! When I was looking for another car on Facebook, I had 2 cars bought out from under me by guys that saw responses to my ad and were closer to the car with cash in hand. So it can happen!

There are people that also collect data on cars and keep their own data on VINs and details. Sometimes people will share what they know.

People that post with a demanding type tone will not get a favorable response.

Those that ask about car after car after car will wear out their welcome.

True car guys do their own research for a purchase first, then ask for input. Nobody knows everything, nobody.

True car guys are on this site, but scammers and flippers can infiltrate every site. It's not possible to keep them all out.

So my final thought is, enjoy your cars. Treat people with respect. Realize that relationships are more important than material items.

Have a nice day.

Lloyd also took pics of this car at MCACN in November and wants to share some of the original details.

This is the only pic I have of the car, and may replace it later if I get a better one.

I am wondering if anyone has run a single Holley 4 barrel on a Cross Ram intake before. 

I bought a 1981 dated Offenhauser Cross Ram intake and two 660 cfm carbs, but that was not going to be anywhere close to street friendly on the built 355 it was going on. So I sold the carbs and am now thinking about replacing it with a new top.  See pics.  The intake I have did have some minor grinding done on it to clearance the accelerator pump on the front of the passenger side carb area. This is generally not seen with a carb installed.

Lloyd took a lot of pictures at a 1967 Z28 at MCACN 2021 (back in November) when it was judged and he will be posting them. I am starting the thread then will just monitor the progress. This car was owned by CRG's Jon Mello at one time.
I believe this is the car, but if it is not I will change the photo.


There are plans to also highlight another car Lloyd has pictures of in another post later this month. Stay tuned!

Ok I am putting this out there so we can try to get a CRG report on SS hoods finished up. What do we need?

67 SS396 hood (top and bottom views)

67 SS350 hood (bottom view) needs to be as early in the year as possible.

Thanks in advance!

OK need some help here in regards to possibly refining the CRG Driveshaft Report.  As with anything, we are always looking for new data and we update reports as we get new solid confirmed information.

Some recent information has surfaced that is suggesting there is yet another driveshaft that needs to be documented for 1967 and another for 1969.

If you have a Chassis Broadcast Copy (CBC) for 67,68 or 69 Camaro we would appreciate your help. These are quite rare, but they do surface sometimes. Would be interested in a clear photo of the whole sheet, or if you want to just include the 2 letter code and the propeller shaft (driveshaft) box, that is fine too.  For 69s it is box 230. 

Thanks in advance.

You can post here or email me direct.

Not sure if this car has been discussed before or not.

It's NOT Butternut Yellow. Too bright.

Can't get photo to load, will resize and try later.

I was recently able to obtain a large amount of original paperwork for 124378L339666 which was sold from Sunset Chevrolet in Sumner, WA. As a side note, my wife's aunt and uncle lived close to this dealership.

This is a Butternut Yellow coupe, with base 327 and the following options. 4 speed, power steering, Z21 style trim, D91 and D96 stripes, tinted glass, door edge guards, Z23 special interior group, deluxe seat belts, console, AM radio. It was delivered with N96 Mag-Style wheel covers but they were removed before the sale. It did get undercoated, polished and serviced by the dealership before the sale to the owner - Linda F. Vaughn (I don't think this was the famous one).

A fellow CRG member (Warren L.) helped me get the package which included.
The dealer manilla folder with VIN sticker on folder tab from their original files.
Dealer Copy of Car Shipper
Chassis Broadcast Copy
Body Broadcast Copy
New Vehicle Inspection and Adjustment Schedule with POP imprint and key codes (2 pages) dated 5/24/68
New Car Service order to provide new car service, clean and polish dated 6/27/68
Dealer Invoice date 6/29/68
2 Dealer Service work orders. One is dated 4/10/69 to "refinish grill and headlight doors. paint peeled off. was no primer on surface? paint would not stay on. sand thoroughly and refinish." Second one is dated 8/27/69 to "fix leak in exhaust, replace gasket at h.r. valve. also check starting system, fails at times."

The window sticker and POP book were not part of the package, but are not really needed to prove what this car was originally. The drivetrain date stamp details are on the POP imprints are on the vehicle inspection and service docs.

This is a good set of docs for CRG research.

If you all have any paperwork you can share, CRG would like to have it but we would keep it confidential and for research only - if that's what you want.

Bryon