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Discovered this on Apple Auctioneering from the U.S. Marshals.

https://appletowing.hibid.com/lot/56824116/1969-chevrolet-camaro/?q=&ref=catalog

Thought it'd be of some interest.  Claims to be a '69 COPO 9N635549.  I believe was last sold at Barrett-Jackson (AZ) in 2017 for $155K

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1969-CHEVROLET-CAMARO-COPO--201487

Does anyone know more about this car ?

Sounds like he's not budging off his price on this one at $27K.  Or $32K strong with the NOS parts stated.

VIN looks like 9N638425

https://providence.craigslist.org/pts/d/woonsocket-1969-z11-camaro-pace-car/6746479446.html

https://akroncanton.craigslist.org/pts/5895042344.html

This past June I too answered a CL's ad about a 69 cowl hood.  The seller stated he wasn't a Camaro guy and he wasn't sure if it was an original or reproduction but to come look at it and I can decide.  He received it in trade for some work he'd done and it had been hanging in his detached garage for nearly 25 yrs.  I haven't really ever paid attention to what a reproduction looked like but for his asking price I thought I couldn't go wrong either way.  He was asking $120, I got it for $100.

I read over several other cowl thread and from what I've learned ... It has the standard notching (rear side corners) that a real GM cowl hood has but no "week stamp date" on the drivers rear side metal.

My questions are ... does it appear to be GM original ?   and If it's a GM hood, does the lack of a "date stamp" just mean it wasn't a line production hood or could there also be a chance that a line hood was never stamped ?

Thought this was cool...Camaro to pace the Indy once again.

http://gearheads.org/the-all-new-2016-chevy-camaro-will-pace-the-indy-500/

[So...should I have chemically dipped (Not an acid bath) or media blasted ?]

Ok,  I'm finally getting some breathing room here and I'm about to start on the Z this summer.  Many of you already know this Z but I'll post a few pics pertaining to my question so you'll have an ideal of it's condition and what my goals are.

I have all body panels (not shown) and they're in excellent condition.  The hull is my main concern.  I plan to keep with ZERO intentions to ever selling.  So I want to do this once and once only.

So...should I have chemically dipped (Not an acid bath) or media blasted ?

I know blasting will not get all the hidden areas AND possibly warp the metal if not done correctly.  Thus also leading to it rusting from the inside areas such as the frame rail, shoulders and rockers.

I know a chemical bath will basically bring it to bare metal and a clean palette to start with.

The cost is minimal between the two and there's actually a place a few hours above me that's been dipping since the 70's.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwib9fjqtebKAhWGKh4KHdgIDcYQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fautorestorationdepot.com%2F&usg=AFQjCNEyf580JxlTVa-twyd_rJ7J6vQRpg&bvm=bv.113370389,d.dmo

I'm leaning 99.5% towards dipping.  Is there any reason not to dip ?  Is there any hidden sealer that was put in during the process of welding the body together at the factory and would require metal removal to replace the sealer?

Dipping also requires the removal of all aluminum parts.  This would mean removing the VIN and cowl tag which I'm not a proponent of. 

I fill like I'm in between a rock and a hard spot if I dip. Seems like the best method for total care of the metal yet would I be hurting it's value if I remove the tags only to reinstall afterwards ?  Of course I'd fully document and have numerous pics of the tag removal process.

Suggestions please

Thanks all in advance

Anyone in need of the entire cowl clip?  Best jump on it now before it's to late    But first run to your favorite bank and take out a second mortgage ! 

One can only imagine what he'd want for his parts when he's ready to sell them...YIKES !!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-RS-SS-/252228350160?hash=item3ab9fb30d0:g:H80AAOSwJcZWgHKW&vxp=mtr

Awhile back, going thru some parts I discovered I had another brake booster hose bracket.  I compared it to my original bracket from my '69 Z.  To my surprise it's a dead ringer in every way, shape and form.  Even has the little tab at the top (near the hose hole).  EXCEPT,  it doesn't have the "AAC" stamp on it.  It even carries the same corrosive look as my Z's. 

I've never seen a repop look this good and it looks to old to be a repop.

Could this still be an original bracket without the "AAC" stamp ?  Were there also multiple suppliers for this bracket thus not having the "AAC" stamping ?

In the first pic you can see the bottom is my "AAC" stamped bracket.  And if I didn't indicate which was the AAC stamped bracket in the others,  I don't think you could tell which is which.

Thanks in advance

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I don't mean to beat a dead horse on trim rings and caps but I wasn't sure whether to start a new topic or add to my previous thread http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=12511.msg104775#msg104775 since it pertains to my 69 Z  03B build

Please move if necessarily better. 

I pulled my center caps out after reading several threads in reference to them.  I never gave them much thought as to being correct or not as they all looked identical at first look.  I'm missing the original rings but believe I have the original caps.  So I figure I'd post pics and get your thoughts.  Three of the four caps have a "double rib" on the inside and one has only "one rib".  But all have the same part number or what appears to be the part number.

I'm also in the market for original trim rings and from what I now know they should be with the four black clips and complete oval valve stem hole.

Thanks all in advance 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Z-28-/311334462551?hash=item487cfae457&vxp=mtr

Bad written all over it !  Bad description,  Repro T.T., Rear date, Trans date and Engine VIN stamp ?   Not sure where they got BU10A for the rear.  I'm seeing BU0610G1 and description states date as "L 289" (cast date).   Am I seeing this correctly, a June stamp with a Dec casting    and a 70's dated Trans.

Hey guys,  Looking for answers.  I have a chance to grab up this balancer for peanuts.  Basically the guy was gonna pitch it.  Said it was off a 69 Camaro engine, all he knew.  I also grabbed up a set of flawless #3932418 valve covers for $100.  So now this has me wondering.

The balancer has all the making of an original Z balancer except I can't find the 7708M stamp anywhere..notta     It's 8 inches in diameter and 1-3/4 wide, has the offset timing index mark to the keyway also.  Doesn't look like a repop either.. at least not like all the ones I've seen.

What is it or could it be to and is it worth anything ? 

Thanks in advance for opinions

Here's a few hidden gems (6) just collecting dust, but at least they're inside from the weather.  I was in a warehouse district running an errand when I was told about these Camaros.  So I made a visit,  this is what I saw and was told per owner who's now in his 70's.  He bought all of them during the early 70's (71-73).  All supposedly matching numbers front to back and all original and untouched except for the (1) 68 that had front end damage (reason for the orange nose).  Six first gen true RS SS's stored away for the future..future what?  not sure as the owner told me he has a no plans to sell.   

Red '67 RS SS Coupe (was told it has every available option)
Orange nose '68's RS SS (top rack) and a Red 68 RS SS below
Blue '69 RS SS 396 Big block Convertible (top rack)  If I recall the Camaro below was a 71 or 72 Z
Reddish Primer '69 RS SS Convertible (top rack)

An X77 for sale with an 03B build and "D80" code.  Must be the earliest D80 produced huh? 

Was this a batch run date and re-stamp ?  Did someone turn a "1" into a "0" ?

Hey all,

Here again with another unique and confusing date.  I was bouncing around and ran across two Delco Remy horns with odd dates.   They show as a #289 dated 1C9 and #290 dated 2C9.

I thought these horns were dated as YR then MTH then Wk and since there's not 9 weeks in a month what are these ?   Are these '71 & '72 and did Delco Remy change their stamping procedures after '69 ?   Or are these '69's and the YR and WK are backwards ? and if that's the case could that of happened 1 week apart from one another.

Also I found an old thread over on Camaro.net from 2006.  A gentleman there was listing his horn dates and also listed that he had a '69 dated 1C9.

Has anyone else ever heard of this happening or seen ?  I posted a pic that shows the "1C9" date, a little hard to see.


Thanks for any input

Hello all,
Thought I try here for an answer to what are the correct Alternator brackets for a 69 Z/28 with the original alternator.  I was given some parts for a 69 Z that I have and I happen to get 2 different front lower Alternator brackets.   They have different bents in them at different locations.  Ones got to be the correct one.  What would the other be for and why.  I have the factory #837 Alternator as well.  Are the brackets different because the alternators are different from one another.. an #837 from a regular Alt ?

Thanks for any help.  

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Hello all,
I stumbled across this X77 Z about a month ago that's been literally garaged and barn kept since 1979-80.  I just got it home yesterday after a longggggg day and late nite.   I wanted to share the story and pics with those interested.  I thought the story was interesting enough to share.

The original owner (Jack) bought it new from Liberty Chevy in New York.  Jack & wife moved from NY to Denver to Texas then settle in Tampa in 1977.  It was driven as a family car until 1978.  Jack traded it off for a $700 trade-in value toward a 4 door family car as they now had a 3 year old son.  (see pic of wife holding son and in stroller, Jack under the hood).  The Z was bought by a lady (2nd owner, who's still a mystery) who only owned it for a year then listed it in the local Tampa News paper to sell (see original paper clipping).  A guy name Tom (3rd owner) bought it from the ad where it was being advertised for $1700 "69 Camaro Z28 good condition, stock from factory".   Can I still sign up ? I'll take a dozen at the price..crazy huh..lol   Tom drove it for 1 year during his senior year in high school 1979.  The Tampa dealer or the mystery 2nd owner repainted it to white with blue stripes, a reverse of the factory colors.  I'm guessing the Tampa dealer repainted, figuring the car being 10-12 yrs old needed a new paint job to get a better sell price (group pics below).  Shortly after graduating Tom started tearing the Z apart because he wanted to freash'n up the motor and repaint it back to it's original colors.  (reason you see car apart in the group pic).  Then again shortly after that Tom passed away from a motorcycle accident and the car sat in his/wife's garage for the next 20 years untouched until 2000.  In 2000, Phil (4th owner, Toms High School best friend) bought it from Tom's wife.  Phil stated he bought because he knew it was untouched (except for what his frd Tom had done) and all original.  Phil towed it home with the parts boxed up.  There Phil parked it in his climate controlled garage/barn with the intention of rebuilding it someday.  That day never came as Phil said he was also more of a hot rodder than a numbers guy and since this Z retained every original part from the radiator tag to the tire jack and lug nuts he knew it deserved to be restored back to its original condition rather than cut up and hot hodded around.  This guy Phil, coolest dude around.  Had a garage/barn separate from his house.  A/C'd with a dozen other cars inside including his own 68 Camaro and a 70 Chevelle from his high school days.

The Z is complete with the born DZ block/engine, M20 transmission and BU 373 rear.  Has every engine components from the carb to oil pan.  Carb, intake, Alt, balancer, pulleys, heads, smog, chrome breather, crank, cam, "0" rockers, every nut and bolt...Everything !  Original YH rims, brake calipers, suspension, all body panels and Interior.  Interior seats and console are in excellent condition (all wrapped in blankets since 1979).  Z has only 59K original miles
Car needs complete restoration but has 99% of all the born with parts for the car.  Very little metal work needed as it is overall solid from front to back.
Born with color is Dusk Blue code 51 and standard blue Interior code 715 with a white vinyl top.
I have all the original paper work, the original owners name and number who now lives in Arizona.   The POP and even the newspaper clipping when it was for sale for $1700
The original owner, Jack now lives in Arizona.  I was able to get his email address also.  Jack ordered this with power steering, no rear spoiler, flat hood and console w/gauges.  Jack stated the reason he ordered w/o a rear spoiler was because his wife didn't like the way it looked.

Thought I'd post this.  #4053 carb looking for a home if someone needs a 902 date

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/pts/4563506816.html

Hey all.. I just thought this was kinda odd.  I discovered this TT while browsing around.  I didn't think GM was stamping "D80" after the "X" codes until sometime toward the end of May.   Any thoughts ?  Rare ? Fake ? or was I mislead on when GM started the D80 stamp.

To me the "6" doesn't look correct in "69" .. IMO

Hey guys

What's your opinion on this DZ stamp and TT.   It's on a Van Nuys 02B built Z28.   Owner has owned for the last 13 yrs and it's been buried in his barn/storage among 6 others cars the last 2 yrs.
Says it's complete numbers matching drive train.   Engine is V1210DZ, Trans P9A27B and the rear is BU1207

I also have another ?.. I know Norwood switched the location of the partial vin off the pad around Jan but what about Van Nuys ? The owner of this Z says the partial vin is near the oil filter and it matches the dash VIN

Thanks guys for any help

Hey guys, me again     Still searching for a real deal Z and ran across this one.  An Oct 68 build "10D" Hugger Orange w/Blk Houndstooth (I'll try to post the Trim tag as soon as I get a picture).  The rear and motor are to be original but the trans is not (but date correct).  Here's the DZ stamp (V1012DZ) along w/the VIN on the pad (looks like 9N520843) and the Alternator (837).

Opinions ?

Thanks again guys/gals

Looking for opinions and help.  I'm seeking a real 69 Z either restored or in need of restoration.  I've inquired out an X77 and was given these pics of the engine DZ stamp and the VIN stamp near the Oil filter.  I'm waiting on a better pic of the TT.  It's an 05A build and so far the numbers align within.  Does the DZ stamp look to crisp and straight along the blocks edge or can that be the norm ?  Also am I seeing some other numbers below the VIN stamp on the oil filter location..looks like I'm seeing part of a 3 or 5 or maybe I'm seeing things.

Thanks

Hello all,
I have a chance to buy a true barn find, a true 69 RS Z.
Here's what I do know.. I just drove to see this car in literally a barn.  
It's all original and was last driven and tag in '75.  Still has the license plate hanging on it.  A non "X" code Z
Trim tag is 69 cortez with 719 red custom interior.  Build is 08B Sept '68.  Had the flat hood, dual exhaust hanger plate, RS tail panel (removed the light) with factory cut outs,  front disc, 5-3/4 Pitman arm (measured), proportioning valve, 4 sp center console w/o gauges, no tach, and the complete original RS lights and system, the BO 0827G1 rear also..a non posi 373. Also still has all the RS & Z28 badges with the original GM p/ns on them.
Everything that's a sign of a true Z except there's no motor or transmission.
Has solid frame rails, inner/outer wheel wells and rockers..basically like the rest it would need a complete restoration.
So knowing that it's a true RS Z early sept build without motor or transmissions, whats a ball park value ?

Thanks for any help