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Hi,

I am dressing my '66 427/425 up as an L78 in my '68 SS.  I was wondering what the correct part number were for the belts.  I have the L78 pulley set up on it (3906656, 3869978, 1970831, and 3873847).  Are 3893254 and 3863114 correct?  Other part numbers are listed on the Quanta webstie...  Though, one can search and find all these other numbers (not necessarily listed as 68 Camaro parts).  BTW, they are having a sale right now on belts...

I was also thinking of adding a captured belt.  I saw a thread about it and it lists 3837810 with 2 possible lengths.  It seems like the shorter one is the way to go.?.?

Regards,
Chris B.

Hi. I have a 1968 coupe with deluxe interior and reveal moldings.  I am going to replace my quarter window fuzzies/felts.

Over the years, I have had car parts on my xmas list.  Plus, have picked up stuff along the way on my own.  So, I do have a full set of felts from...the late 90s???  But they don't match my originals very well.

I checked most of the vendors.  I see that they offer "original style" sets.  Though, it still looks as though the inner quarter felts are not correct.  The outers in my current kit aren't exactly right, either.  But the current offerings state "orginal style bead" on the outers.  My originals do have a sort of black bead vs. the new ones I have that are flat/beveled edge treatment.  The thing is, there is no mention of the inner quarter felts' shape in these new "orginal style" kits.  Are they a chrome bead like my originals?  Or a more flat chrome piece like the door panels (which is what is in my current repro kit)?

Here are my fronts.  The outers are the same as the quarter outers, as far as I can tell.  The inners are like my replacements with the flat chrome piece.


Here are my quarter window outers.  Notice, if you can, that there is a bead on the originals on the right vs. a bevel, then rounded over pinch on the repros on the left.



One can kind of see the bevel on the repro in these pictures.  It bends away from the camera.  The originals actually come towards the camera first.  Then, they are a rounded over bead.  Also notice the way the end is cut on the original vs. repro.  The original is at an angle.  The repro is a 90 degree cut.



Here are the inner quarter felts.  This is where the biggest difference occurs.  The repros on top have a flat chrome piece like the doors.  The originals are a chrome bead (bottom).


First, are my "originals" correct?  My car is pretty original in most areas.  But not always...  If they are, does anyone sell a kit or at least the inner felts that are like the originals?  The vendor descriptions are all over the place...

Hi,

Where and how does the main battery ground cable attach to the engine? 

The AIM only lists "V8" when mentioned in UPC 12 and C60.  No specific mention/picture in the L34, L35, and L78 UPCs...  I have a few pictures saved of restorations and member's cars.  But no good, in focus pictures of the cable.  Most do go to the water pump...  I would assume that since V8 is stated, that BBC does actually go on the water pump. 

If that is correct, is the cable and star washer added under the mounting bolt?  Or was a stud and nut type set up used like on the alt. bracket on the other side?

Someone else started a thread on TC on the same subject.  But no answers as of yet...

Thanks!
Chris B.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-CHEVY-CAMARO-MUNCIE-4-SPEED-TRANSMISSION-3925660-M20-/120799550092?hash=item1c2036da8c&item=120799550092&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Seller: mrracing
Item number: 120799550092
Item location: Wisconsin, United States

Muncie M-20 4 speed transmission, 2-line input, 660 case, 1" pin, all numbers in the pics.  2.52 first gear, 1.88 second, 1.46 third and 1.00 fourth. You can confirm by the numbers if it fits your application. 10 spline input, 27 spline output. Case casting is 3925660 and correct tail is 3857584 - Side cover is casting number 3952648 - Bearing retainer is casting number 3915020 - Bench shifts fine in all gears. Everything looks decent inside, engagement teeth in good to decent shape and constant mesh sides are good for their age as well. Some slight patina color to the gears from sitting under a bench for so long as shown - Case and tail are in good shape with no cracks or stripped threads, except the tail has a small 3/4" notch in the webbing for shifter clearance as shown - Pics show all the numbers - VIN number is 18N347490 and date is P8S08 - Transmission appears to have been installed at the Norwood plant in a 1968 Chevy Camaro originally. Good trans to restore with a full rebuild and needs new syncros, they are very loose and one is even cracked and the shift keys are out - bearings skip and growl as well - good original core with good numbers as shown.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-CHEVY-CAMARO-MUNCIE-4-SPEED-TRANSMISSION-3925661-M20-/120799546636?hash=item1c2036cd0c&item=120799546636&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Seller: mrracing
Item number: 120799546636
Item location: Wisconsin, United States

Muncie M-20 4 speed transmission, 2-line input, 660 case, 1" pin, all numbers in the pics.  2.52 first gear, 1.88 second, 1.46 third and 1.00 fourth. You can confirm by the numbers if it fits your application. 10 spline input, 27 spline output. Case casting is 3925661 and correct tail is 3857584 - Side cover is correct with the casting number 3950306 with bolt style arms as shown. Will need a new bearing retainer, this one has big grooves from the throw-out bearing - Bench shifts fine in all gears. Everything looks decent inside, engagement teeth in good shape and constant mesh sides are good for their age as well. Case and tail are in good shape with no cracks or stripped threads, except the tail has a small 3/8" hole were someone ran a shifter mounting bracket bolt in too deep as shown. Price can be negotiated for an extra tail without a damage hole or bearing retainer. One cross member bolt also has an insert installed - Top boss of the case has some minor scratches as shown in the pics - Pics show all the numbers - VIN number is 19N686859 and date is P9P16A - Tin tag is still present and stamped 3950356 - Transmission appears to have been installed at the Norwood plant in a 1969 Chevy Camaro originally. Good core trans to restore in need of a full rebuild with new syncros - all original with good numbers as shown.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-COPO-CAMARO-427-425HP-3963512-ORIGINAL-MN-CODED-ENGINE-/120819303719?hash=item1c21644527&item=120819303719&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr


Seller:  bb67
Item number: 120819303719
Item location: Columbia Station, Ohio, United States

1969 COPO CAMARO 427/425HP 3963512 ORIGINAL MN CODED ENGINE

You are considering a Original 1969 COPO Camaro 427/425Hp Engine. This Engine block casting # 3963512 dated A-4-9 (Jan. 4th,1969),. Original No restamp front pad stamped T0123MN (jan 23rd). Heads 3919840 matched dated A-16-9 (Jan 16th-1969) The vin # is stamped in the rough casting area above oil filter were block meets bellhousing. Original Vin 19N630543 This engine was running recently. What you see is what you get! Please call 1-440-748-1500 for any questions. We will not accept paypal for this item. We will ship this item. It will have to be truck shipped and there will be a crating charge. Call us to discuss. Thanks!

Was there with a friend and his Viper club.  But made time for a few pictures of the Camaros... 
cb

I rebuilt/recovered my bucket seats and tracks.  When I took the tracks off, I found some kind of spacers under the passenger's outside track.  There was one regular washer under one end of the inner track.  I checked the driver's side bucket.  There is only ONE spacer on it!!!  Are these original?  What were they made of?  Seems like some kind of rubber washers stacked up...  1968 SS Deluxe interior if that matters (but the seats are '67 Firebird).  Thanks!

I did a search on the numbers and didn't get any results.  So, I thought I'd post them to see what happens...

Rear Seat Bottom cover:


Rear Seat Bottom cover number 7753575 and 7H30L1:


Rear Seat Bottom padding number 7640924:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-CHEVY-CAMARO-302-327-350-MOTOR-/110692307052?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item19c5c6906c

seller: rockey1952
Gresham, OR
$600 start

3914678
B 16 8

18L332095
V0221MA
327/210 Manual

This transmission has a RIGHT-HAND Speed "O".
 Front case is # 3925660  rear case #3857584  side  cover  #3950306.

The NEW BEARING RETAINER is # 3915020.  The Vin # 19L335721 (Built in Los Angeles)

It is dated P9B 13 B.

Seller: kajunjon-whitneytx
Whitney, TX

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-4-speed-Muncie-M-21-Transmission-Camaro-Chevelle-/360343201109?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e620e555

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-Z28-AUTHENTIC-ORIGINAL-DZ-302-ENGINE-W-VIN-NUMBER-/120653955943?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ACamaro%7CYear%3A1969&hash=item1c17894367

Seller: aafa701
BIN: $10,000
Location: Sonora, CA

Found a "orphan" motor on craigslist.  Maybe someone knows of a Corvette orphan area?

http://modesto.craigslist.org/pts/1827050902.html

This is a good running motor that I purchased from a friend.
3858174 says it's a 66 small journal 300 H.P.
J256 is for 10/25/66
FI026HE is on front of block
6106860 also on front of block
call Bob (209)848-2715


•Location: Oakdale

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1968-CAMARO-REBUILT-MUNCIE-M22-4SPD-CLOSE-RATIO-NICE-/260633569348?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3caef8a844

seller: hooked95
start: $1625
buy it now: $1800

V0425MS


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320556757828&viewitem=

I saw this on eBay.  It doesn't have the complete VIN.  So, if you are wondering if it is your COPO engine, you should write them...

I decode it as a 396 crank, but same stroke...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-427-425hp-Camaro-Engine-3963512-MN-/220631051922?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item335ea2ae92

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DZ-302-1969-Camaro-Block-Heads-Not-Clone-Motor-/270603352023?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f013777d7

V0911DZ
9N689064

<updated with full VIN - Kurt>

I didn't read the whole ad...  VIN in odd location?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-MATCHING-1967-CAMARO-MUNCIE-M20-4SPD-/260613170150?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cadc163e6

ebay 260613170150

The block casting date is May 21, 1968.  Not sure how long they sat on the shelf.  So, not sure if it's for a '68 or '69 car.  Also could have just put 302 part in it the block...  The crank is a '69 302 crank?  Factory 302 paint stamp?  The pad stamp is a bit crazy...  The number is also for the L6 plant?  Another buyer be aware?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=350327391278&viewitem=&sspagename=WDVW&category=140682&ih=022

I saw it listed on ebay 3/8/10, 6.5 days remaining on auction.  Item #220565816580.  Seller is fomocoboys.

V1002MS
3914678

Oct. 2, 1967 350/295 3 or 4 speed.

Hi,

I noticed that this chart does not have August in it (except Aug. 1969).  Is this due to the model year change over?  Were the Aug. cars (low number?) added to the Sept. totals?  I did see mention of the plants shutting down for two weeks in July, but...  And this applies to Fisher, too?

I've searched the forum using 08A, 08B, and 08C and come up with mainly '69 cars.  Though, there is mention of 08A & C '67s...  There may have been one '68 in there, too.   But he never showed his tag.  I used August for that search...  It also seems the 08A '69s were talking about the '68 calendar year in some threads?  Speaking of '69s, wouldn't there be 08n for both '68 and '69 calendar years?  I'm sure it's been covered before.  Sorry for the repeat.  Or maybe everyone else figured it out... 

Thanks!
cb

Hi,

I'd like to suggest a thread or possible CRG Research topic.  The suggestion is to post an actual color sample of the color codes. 

There are small ones in the brochures.  But I am getting some conflicting input from different sources as to what is the actual color of my car.  My real problem is that my cowl tag is missing.  It was missing when I bought the car in '83.  The color seems original.  It is very similar to '68 Teal Blue, "L".  I saw a couple cars being sold painted the same color as mine.  I asked what color it was and they said Sequoia Green, "V"...

Besides solving my problem, I think it would be pretty great to have this data on a site that is all about what the cars really were like from the factory.  Maybe someone from a paint shop could donate some samples they paint up from the database?  Oh, and I know that the colors will be different on everyones computer, for the most part.  But I believe one could still be able to tell if their color is correct, next to correct, or not so correct.

Anyway, just an idea...

Regards,
Chris