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#1
Restoration / Re: 1968 Front Spoiler
February 19, 2026, 11:02:21 PM
The initial front spoiler (i.e., "extension") did not have braces...as depicted in the 1967 AIM, UPC D80, Sheet A1.  It was attached to the front bumper valence panel with only five 456766 screws as well as the existing center 9780422 screw (depicted as Item #5 on 67 AIM, UPC 11-13, Sheet A5.

Bernie
#2
Restoration / Re: 1968 Front Spoiler
February 19, 2026, 10:50:58 PM
I have an original front spoiler 3916673 on my 1968 and it has a pebble grain (i.e., Madrid grain).  However, I just checked the Classic Industries web site and see that they have a front spoiler that may work.  It's listed as "153086 - 1967-68 Camaro, Firebird; Front Spoiler; with Textured Grain; Bolt On" under Product #153086 for $26.99 each.  Here's the web site link: https://www.classicindustries.com/product/1968/chevrolet/camaro/parts/153086.html

Interestingly, Classic Industries lists an OER reproduction front spoiler as 3916673 and "Factory Correct" but with a "correct smooth finish."  This is incorrect based on GM documents.  As a side note, OER embosses their logo and the part number "3916673" on the back of their reproduction spoiler where it is clearly visible...not good for concours show cars.  I am not aware if the Classic Industries #153086 spoiler has similar embossing.  The first RPO D80 front spoiler was listed in the 1967 AIM on UPC D80, Sheet A1, as 3916673.  The 1968 AIM did not show RPO D80 but the installation was the same.  However, per Chevrolet Parts History Catalog P&A 30H (1973, January), page 173, 3943249 superseded 3916673 in July 1968...the last two months of the 1968 model year.

The initial "factory correct" front spoiler, 3916673, had the pebble grain (i.e., Madrid grain).  The later front spoiler ("Factory Correct" only for the last two months of the 1968 model year), 3943249, had the smooth finish.  Hopefully OER and Classic Industries corrects these two items and gets rid of all non-original embossing.

Bernie
#3
Restoration / Re: SS350 wheels?
February 19, 2026, 10:17:25 PM
The only part of the Late 1967 to All 1968 Camaro SS wheel cover 3871174 (RPO PO1) that is being reproduced is the center plastic portion with the black and silver radiating spokes and the red SS.  You can find it at RPUI-Trim Parts under SKU 2290 for $64.05 each.  Here's the web site link: https://rpui.com/-Exterior-Body-1963-Chevrolet-Impala-SS-Wheel-Cover-Emblem-Each-2290

If you find a set of used SS wheel covers, even the ones with white-painted rings, at least a pro can polish out or get rid of light scratches/blemishes on the outer portion and remove the old painted rings...and then re-paint the two low gloss black rings.  Then you can replace the original plastic center portions with the repro Trim Part ones.

Bernie
#4
General Discussion / Re: New site additions
February 19, 2026, 09:37:14 PM
Thank you, Kurt, for the acknowledgement!  I have many more possible report additions to CRG.

Bernie
#5
Originality / Re: Wiper motor stamping
May 03, 2024, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: 68L30 on April 30, 2024, 07:23:45 PM
Here is what I've found, vintage United Delco. Font and technique is about spot on.

Steve

Steve,

If I mail you a self-addessed stamped envelope, can you stamp "058 68" on an 8-1/2" x 11" piece of white printer paper and mail it back to me?  Then, I can get a rubber stamp made with that date code.  If interested, please PM a mailing address for my envelope.  Thanks!

Bernie
#6
Originality / Re: Wiper motor stamping
April 27, 2024, 04:12:53 PM
Quote from: CantRepeat on April 23, 2024, 06:36:24 AM
Started working on my wiper motor and washer pump and I noticed a stamp on it.

It looks like a Julian date 287 66 so that's Oct 14, 1966.

Were wiper motors stamped like this? Is an mid Oct too early for an 11B car?


Can you post the height of your original stamped numbers?


Tx, Bernie
#7
Originality / Re: Misc markings and labels
April 13, 2024, 03:26:31 AM
Quote from: vetteskip on April 12, 2024, 07:51:08 PM
Quote from: bowtie68iho on April 12, 2024, 05:27:24 AM
Vetteskip,

Have you checked under the carpet just above the high beam switch?  There's a tag on the wires just before the plastic wire connector to the switch?  If there is one, can you post a photo of it too?  What was the exact location (i.e., distance from a particular connector) under the dash of the 7663 BC tag? Thanks!

BTW, there would be another harness tag under your console if you ever remove the shifter plate.  There could be other tags under the dash depending on options installed, but would require digging under there for access.

Bernie

Bernie - the '7663' tag is from the high beam switch leads under the carpet; that is the only location for the dash harness tags. I haven't been into the console yet, but if I do, I'll post that pic as well. - Skip

By "dash harness tags" I am assuming you mean the Instrument Panel tag (i.e., listed as "I/P" on broadcast sheets)?  There are other tags under the dash besides the I/P one.  Some other examples of tags under the dash: (1) 1969 dash to left quarter panel rear lighting harness tag is located next to the parking brake.  (2) There may be a tag (unconfirmed as of yet) for courtesy light wire.  (3) An air conditioning harness tag would be under the dash.  (4) Forward speaker harness may have a tag (unconfirmed).

Bernir
#8
Originality / Re: Misc markings and labels
April 12, 2024, 05:38:13 AM
There are more wiring harness tags on your car than what are listed on your broadcast sheet because Fisher Body installed some wiring harnesses before delivering the body to the factory.  The Fisher Body harness tags were color-coded and had the last four numbers of the part number, but did not have a two-letter broadcast code.  Only the factory-installed harnesses had broadcast codes which were listed on the both the chassis broadcast sheet and body broadcast sheet.

Bernie
#9
Originality / Re: Misc markings and labels
April 12, 2024, 05:27:24 AM
Vetteskip,

Have you checked under the carpet just above the high beam switch?  There's a tag on the wires just before the plastic wire connector to the switch?  If there is one, can you post a photo of it too?  What was the exact location (i.e., distance from a particular connector) under the dash of the 7663 BC tag? Thanks!

BTW, there would be another harness tag under your console if you ever remove the shifter plate.  There could be other tags under the dash depending on options installed, but would require digging under there for access.

Bernie
#10
There is an eBay vendor (i.e., Popsbowtie 67 thru 69 Camaro Parts) that knows a machine shop expert that custom makes the assembly line correct "spun" version of PCV valves with the AC type number stamped into the side (example: "AC SPARK PLUG TYPE CV-736 C") and the working valve inside.  Pricey, but where else can you get a correct original?  The link to his store so you can contact him for making one: https://www.ebay.com/str/popsbowtie67thru69camaroparts?_ipg=72.

Bernie
#11
Originality / Re: Unicorn option help ? D88
April 04, 2024, 07:13:54 AM
In early 2023, I came across one of these "unicorns" in northeast Philadelphia area in a private holding.  It was loaded with options with many of those options appearing to have possibly been either dealer-installed or owner-installed at some point in time because of the numerous flaws that I noticed that could not have been attributed to a factory install.  Regrettably, I did not note the build date on the trim tag.

The D-88 stripes and body paint appeared to be a very old lacquer job so possibly (but not plausibly) original?  Attached is a photo of the "unicorn" with the front license plate redacted.

Bernie
#12
There are at least two different orientations of the socket location and the small bent locating tab on one end of the license lamp assembly.  See attached photo.  The lamp assembly on the left is the correct 911242 for 1967-68 Camaros because the black socket wire goes through the center rear bumper bracket hole on the passenger side.  Plus, the locating tab is on the passenger side.  The lamp assembly on the right is incorrect.  Notice the socket location changes to the driver side and the small bent locating tab is also on the driver's side?

The correct orientation should be noted before attempting to buy one of these from a seller on eBay, Facebook Marketplace, etc.
#13
Quote from: abiddle on October 18, 2023, 09:11:06 AM
Yes, I'm sorry I should have said AM or AM/FM. U63 and U69 both had the front center speaker. If the stereo tape player U57 or the stereo multiplex U79 was ordered, no  front center speaker was installed. My apologies, I sometimes forget the U69 FM non-stereo option, which was actually fairly common. I only had an AM radio. Also AM radio is evidenced by a rear telescoping manual antenna, the rear antenna option could not be ordered with the FM radio. I believe AM and FM both had the same straps and capacitors, but I could be mistaken. I'm sure its all in the AIM. The original rear antenna on my car, and the original AM radio still installed, is how I knew the rear spoiler was added. It was an original rear spoiler, but it could have been added by the dealer or from another car at any time after the factory.

Was the hole in the cowl panel inside the passenger door jamb not present for your factory rear antenna setup or was the hole plugged?  If plugged, could post a picture?  Thanks!
#14
Quote from: abiddle on October 16, 2023, 09:17:18 AM
Sounds like AM radio with 8 track player, which would have been mounted on the console. This is the same setup I have. Here is a wiring diagram which may answer your questions.
Andy

Console-mounted 8-track players and multiplex stereo players in 1968 and 1969 Camaros were for cars with RPO C60 factory air conditioning systems (Four Seasons) because the AC duct work under the dash on the passenger side obstructed mounting either the 8-track player or multiplex there.
#15
Reviving this post because nobody posted a photo of an original 3929977 jacking instruction for a 1968 SS convertible.  Maybe this time I'll have better luck.