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Jesper,
You may be interested in a 42 page color version Larry DuBois is selling on eBay. He has taken the old B&W and turned it into the color version by system just like a newer GM factory manual would have.  I've seen links to it elsewhere on this site but don't know how to post.  Here's an example page.  Note that the real thing is higher quality.
Les

In response to some queries attached are the photos I currently have to develop an early (up to Jan/Feb) '69 black background reproduction decal for automatic L48s & LM1s. I've also attached a photo of the current '68 L48 reproduction decal that, with a modified part number and shape, may end up being used as a basis for the '69 decal.

I've asked the owner of the early '69 black decal car to send me a clearer photo.  That and the car Kurt found on ebay are the only two original ones we have to work with. I'll post an update with photos when the dust settles.

I just confirmed with an owner of a black decal car that the text (except for the part number which is 6484584) and text layout matches that for the '68 295HP 350 (decal DC0719).  The ends are different being tapered as per his & Kurt's photos.  
As far as the white decal is concerned I have to wait a few months until its owner pulls it out of storage in the spring to get some measurements.  I will contact Jim Osborn about adding these.

Based on the pictures & build date info we've got to date you're likely looking at a black decal. They appear to have been used for cars up to Jan '69. Starting in March '69 white seems to be the norm.  February is still an unknown. It would be interesting to know whether your outline suggests a black one with slightly tapered corners or white rectangular.   

BTW my car is also garnet red with deluxe white houndstooth & L48 auto.

For those waiting on news the black CO 6484584 decal owner contacted me and said he should be able to get us more info in the next couple of weeks.

There is no CO 6484584 label (white or black) out there that I can find.  We're fully satisfied the code & numbering is correct for the L48 or LM1 (350/4BBL) auto and it is CN 6484583 for a manually equipped L-48 or LM1 inspite of what some of catalogues tell you.

I'm gathering post info & some PMs to see if I can get Jim Osborn to make one. They are a GM approved reproduction company for these decals.

I'm currently waiting upon an owner of a black decal car to provide their build date & factory.  Also waiting for some dimensions off a white one rather than trying to scale off a photo.  Anyone else with an original decal seeing this post please send what you have.  I personally only have my eyes on getting a white one but others have expressed interest in getting a black one on the assumption that the color is build date (vs. factory) related.

A black decal has been found on a January car & white ones built after March.  Those are CO 6484584s.  I've not heard any mention of a black CN 6484583 decal. That's all I know at the moment. 

According to the GM parts books the manual L48 is 6484583.  As I mentioned earlier I have yet to find this in the AIM or any reference to a 350 4BBL manual transmission air cleaner.  All current reproduction decals with this part number I know of say that it is for a 350/255HP (LM1) engine and has the code CN.  Unfortunately I can't tell you if that is correct. The sequencing lines up well with CO 6484584 for the automatic L48. So I tend to believe the letters go with the part but the description likely should be "69 350 255 or 300HP 4BBL" which per the parts catalogues would line up with the single part number listed for a 69 350 4BBL.
If you look up the decal for a 69 350/300HP many catalogues you will show DC403 or CR 6485887. None of my Camaro parts catalogues list this part number.  6485887 tends to suggest a 1971 part (6485886 is for a 71-72 6 cyl while 6485902 is for a 1971 307). The Golden Eagle Classics catalogue lists CR 6485887 for a 70-71 350/454 4BBL Corvette.   
I've actually got both the CN & CR decals (bought in ignorance assuming one would be correct).  I could mail you the CN if you send me your address in a PM.
if someone has a better answer please butt in. 

Excellent Steve!!!  When you get a moment could you get a hieght & width measurement for me? That would be great.  I assume that it is a pretty standard decal but it's one thing Osborn wanted to know before they would even consider reproducing.  I appreciate that there is a little wear on the decal but does it look layout & color wise the same as the reproduction I showed earlier for a L48 Chevelle?

Thanks Steve. You may be correct but without a good picture of one it's tough to convince a reputable reproduction company to make one up.  Have you got one & a picture (with dimensions) you can send me?  The two letter code should be on your broadcast sheet if you have it.

[1969 350 L48 Air Cleaners]

A summary of the previous attachements.  I can't find the manual transmission air cleaner part number in the AIM.  If others have found it please let me know where.

1969 350 L48 Air Cleaners               
                   AIM UPC    AIM P/N   AIM Comment                                                                Jul 69 Cat   Dec 72 Cat
Non-Cowl Induction               
Manual          L48 / A2      Note 1                                                                                        6484583     6484583
Auto              M35/A22  6484584   RPO L48 & LM1                                                               6484584     6484584 Note 2
                   M38/A2        "          6M-3 Air Cleaner & Silencer - Assembles the same as M35   Note 3       Note 3
Cowl Induction               
Manual          ZL2/A3     6485233   RPO L48                                                                         6485233    6485233
Automatic      ZL2/A3     6485234   RPO L48 with RPO M35 or M38                                         6485234    6485234

Notes               
1. AIM refers to L65 but L65 is only a 350 2BBL
2. Also 6485252 with 2" vs 1-1/2" heat stove in 1972 catalogue            
3. AIM & Camaro Master Parts Catalogue do not differentiate between PG & TH350 350 4BBL automatics               

Not great quality but here are the catalogue pages

I was looking into this issue earlier and found someone with 2 original Chevelle L48s and, although the air cleaner looks identical (except for the lid is black), the part number CM / 6484582 is not in the Camaro parts books.  So the part numbers appear to be model and/or factory specific.  This agrees with some of the parts catalogue info I've also stumbled upon. Therefore I'm trying to concentrate on Camaros only.

The attached TC post for a 69 RS shows the black 6484584 decal like the one shown.  I'm assuming it was also from an L48 as his lid is chrome. I've yet to hear what the build date of his car is but is was a powerglide which might suggest an earlier build than my August 69 car.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1627945

I will try to downsize the copies of the parts catalogues I have so I can post it for everyone's reference.

Partially correct descriptions (even if done in good faith) is part of the challenge of restoring a car correctly I am discovering.  Here's the page from the AIM.

I don't have AIM with me but under the TH350 M35 section the air cleaner part number is 6484584. Yes - there is no sticker shown except the one on the lid in the AIM. However, the air cleaner part number and the part number on the sticker have been the same on other unmolested original decals I have seen. And the two letter code appears to match the broadcast sheets I have seen.  I'm thinking that the two letter code is a factory parts bin code but that's a guess. This makes sense to me but maybe I don't understand the whole story.

I've seen the air cleaner referenced in the ebay ad and it may be from an SS350 but by the part number 6485887 it would not appear to from an automatic '69 Camaro.