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Kurt "he" is Bob Wingate....."them" is Chevrolet........

Kelley you have a private message..........RatPack..............

I hope they press charges against the driver of the Nova for child endarngerment. Just plain stupid to do this on the street to begin with, but with a minor in the car is just ignorant.......

Steele Rubber Products does not manufacture all of their parts, and most of it is bought from Metro or Repops................RatPack...........

Clem, can you enlighten us as to what the code number was for Evening Orchid in 1969?.........Since you didn't order by name back then..............RatPack.........

Motorman, if your dealer and you sat down and opened the color chip book to pick a color, then I assume it was one from 1969. If that is the case then this car was never Evening Orchid, but probably without a doubt it was painted Olds Toronado "Flamingo Silver" code #81. This is similar, but a lot lighter shade of lavender just was what appears to be seen in the picture above of the roofrail. This color was a one year only item used by Buick (Sunset Silver) and Olds for 1969. Not many cars were painted this color either. I can see how this color could be confused to Evening Orchid, but side by side comparisons they are night and day..... The picture of the car from back in the day appears to be this 1969 Buick/Olds color as it is nowhere near dark enough for Evening Orchid.............Just my two cents worth.....................RatPack......................... Are there any pictures of the sides of the cowl panel before restoration began where the original color would have been?

Jack, that is probably a GM mirror, but I will look at the couple NOS ones I have to see what the casting is inside the base..........RatPack.............

Pace car....needed work!

I don't know how I missed this thread originally......  Is this the car you have now? I inspected a pace car a few years ago that could be a twin to this one. Very similar crash damage, and still sporting the Cragar type mag wheels. It looked like the Duke boys had played with it. Can't remember if it was an automatic or 4-speed, but had lots of options on it.......................RatPack........................

Marty, the picture of the car I posted is a 10D build NOR car and it used the plastic ties and had two pieces of insulation on the long hose. Also this hose was already installed by the supplier of the hoses, not the assy line workers at Chevrolet so the lengths shoudn't vary much. Wish I still had the car here to get you some more info as it hadn't been touched when I got it other than a cheap used car lot underhood "detail" (i use that term loosely).............RatPack.....................

Guys I verified that the 20348200 handle shown is still the same one available through GM and all of the aftermarket vendors. It is not correct for any 67-69 Camaro, and it may hit the molding on the rear panels, will have to check fitment first............RatPack............

Marty, those lines and fittings are either the first repros that came out in the early 90's, or the previous owner/restorer had them made up. The crimps in the fittings are the style my local a/c shop has now as they cannot replicate the original style crimps or fittings. Here is a picture of an original 69 small block a/c muffler with the original hoses still attached...........RatPack............

Chick, that 20322800 handle was used on 83-88 G-body cars, and numerous other GM cars during the early 80's to late 90's. Wonder if that is the one that was a supercede for the correct handles. I cannot see it working in a Camaro due to the curvature of the handle..........RatPack...............

I dug through all of my handles and found that the backs of the handles were no way to identify whether they were service replacements or not as the recessed cavity was different on just about all of them in some way or another. Here are some pictures showing differences in the 68-69 #9715291 (frt & rr 68, frt 69)handle, and the #9717838 rear handle for 1969 Camaros. There is one picture showing the original handles along with a repro handle that either came from the "HELP" rack at the parts store, not really sure where it came from, just marked CP on the rear. I did not get measurements showing the amount of offset for each as I am pressed for time today. I will be back on here Monday, earlier if I find the time............RatPack......................

Troy, the car is a local 2 owner car with black standard interior. Guess I might be able to check the cast #'s with a mirror!

Chick, more than likely they will have the "291" handles. I would still like to see other 68's that are unrestored before saying they got the later style knob. As this would be the very first 68 with this style knob..............RatPack.............

Shallow curve. The deep curve one didn't show up until 1969 on the rear panels only and it was the 9717838 cast handle. If I get time tomorrow I will dig some out for comparison, if not, then it will be Monday.......................RatPack................