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#1
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: FIA Homologation
November 04, 2021, 01:27:48 PM
Well I'm nearly there with the approval of the historic passport. The FIA have raised a few questions. If anyone can help with evidence/photos on the following it would greatly assist. I need to prove they were fitted to Trans Am cars between 67-69

1 - Were aluminium radiators fitted for Camaro 67-69? or Trans Am cars.

2 - Were hurst gear shifters fitted

3 - Were rod ends (uniball) fitted to gear linkages

4 - Were MSD ignition units fitted to Trans Am cars?

Thanks so much to all that have assisted.
#2
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: FIA Homologation
October 20, 2021, 08:27:50 AM
Quote from: Jon Mello on October 17, 2021, 04:14:15 PM
In this link you will find a '68 article from Corvette News which shows the preparation of the Penske Camaro (one of two team cars that year).  In the pictures you can see the roll cage bars coming through the firewall and attaching to the front subframe.  The SCCA GCR rule books from this era do not do a good job of telling you whether these were allowed of not, but they were.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9345.msg66964#msg66964


Thanks to everyone for the information. The HTP (FIA historic technical regulation) application form has been submitted with the additional information. If granted I believe it will be the first HTP issued for a Camaro in the UK. Note I say 'I believe'. I'll keep you all posted.

#3
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: FIA Homologation
October 16, 2021, 09:33:24 PM
Hi. It is 1967 through to 1969. I need proof of roll cage front legs being used 'in this period'. Thanks Steve
#4
Trans-Am Camaros / FIA Homologation
October 16, 2021, 06:46:58 AM
I am nearing the end of the homologation of my 1967 Camaro in the UK. It is to HTP standard 1449 period G1. The only area of difficulty is the number of roll cage mounting points which needs to comply with FIA appendix K roll cages. This states that the roll cage (ROPS)

4.5. Tubes through the front bulkhead and/or attached to the body/
chassis within 10cm of the front suspension pickup points are not
permitted unless documentary evidence is provided to prove this was
done in period on the make and model concerned.
4.6. For cars up to and including Period G1, the ROPS must not have
more than six mounting points, unless documentary evidence is provided
to prove this was done in period on the make and model concerned.

Unfortunately I have 8 mounting points with the front roll cage legs going through the front bulkhead and being welded on to the front chassis legs just behind the upper wishbone mounting point. I could just remove these legs but wanted to try and prove that this type of roll cage design was done in period. I have pointed them, towards the drawing on page 72 of Steve Holmes' book but the assessor thinks its unlikely they will accept this as the sketch has no date.

Can anyone assist with any photos, plans or information on the roll cage design. Thank you



#5
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Roll Cages
August 02, 2021, 11:25:44 PM
Well I have had a look for the trim tag and it is not present. I've registered the car for historic papers and a registration inspection is the next step. Ive taken a few photos and they are below. Any views most welcome. The first shake down test is at Brands Hatch in two days time. I'll keep you posted. Thanks for all the replies. Steve
#6
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Roll Cages
July 24, 2021, 03:10:09 AM
Quote from: Jon Mello on July 23, 2021, 08:44:39 PM
Very interesting car, Steve.  Thanks for posting here and I look forward to seeing more pics.  I know Bob Morton but did not realize this car came from Dana Chevrolet and raced in Southern, CA.  Is there any evidence on the car of what the original color may have been?  If a trim tag is still on the firewall it would be behind/above the brake master cylinder area.  I suspect it is long gone but hope to be surprised.

Hi Jon

Thanks for the reply. I will have a look on Monday and take and post some more photos. I've also emailed Bob. I will also see if I can work out the original colour. I'm currently applying for an historic passport for the vehicle so the information from you and this forum will be invaluable. Also Steve Holmes's book is a good source too.
#7
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Roll Cages
July 23, 2021, 08:47:56 AM
HI

not sure on the trim tag, where is that located? According to the NCRS register the car had a GM production date of 05/12/1967 and the supplying dealer was Dana Chevrolet Inc South Gate California.

I would not have a clue how to start trying to track down the vehicles early race history.
#8
Trans-Am Camaros / Re: Roll Cages
July 23, 2021, 02:19:40 AM
Thanks for the replies and kind welcome. I have found a good diagram in Steve Holmes's excellent Racing Camaro photographic book. I'm hoping that this will help me with my FIA Historic registration.

Unfortunately the history on the car is not very good. All I know about the car was by word of mouth from the guy I got it from Bob Morton. He said it was raced in the San Diego SCCA region in the early 70's for a few races, then sat for some years before being sold to someone in San Francisco where in was raced only three times then some sat some more before being sold to a guy  in Sacramento where it sat for years before he got it in 2007 as a roller. Log book did not come with the car.

He started racing it in 2010 with SOVREN in Seattle and Spokane. 1st entry in the new log book was Seattle 5/15/10. The car has raced only 15 times since.

It looks to my untrained eye to be a good spec car with 302 engine, dual plane twin Holleys.

I'll post some more photos next week to see what people think.

I would love to track down some history. VIN No is 124377L157162
#9
Trans-Am Camaros / Roll Cages
July 22, 2021, 10:09:45 AM
Hi

first time posting on this forum. Late last year I imported a 1967 Camaro race car from US to UK. The car arrived and I was very pleased. Over the past few months I've been updating the vehicle with UK safety equipment. And a nice new quiet exhaust that will hopefully pass race circuit noise limits here in UK. Below is a photo of the car. I will post some more over the next few days. The plan is to run the car in the Classic Sports Car Club Swinging Sixties Group 2 category. The first outing will be at the GT World Challenge meeting 28 August 2021 on the famous Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit.

Does anyone have information on the roll cages that were available in the late 1960's for the Camaro. Mine was supplied anew by Dana Motors I wondered if they offered a roll cage ?e