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Title: 1st Gen Question
Post by: cancam69 on June 30, 2009, 11:27:59 AM
Sorry if this has been asked before....were any first Gens' used by Police forces across north America? and if so....what special treatment did they receive? Did they have a differnt Trim Tag/Vin? I am asking this because I remember a local car show here years ago and the local police had a display, there was definatlely a 57' chev and I swear the other car was a 69 Camaro (I could be dead wrong of course) if my memory is not failing me and they were used as Police vehicles....any pics? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on June 30, 2009, 12:07:13 PM
The only first generation one I've seen was a toy...

http://www.amazon.com/1969-Camaro-Police-Highway-Patrol/dp/B001JIIBGM

Lots of second, third and fourth generation cop cars here...

http://www.sspmustang.org/gallery5.htm

And the fifth generation Camaro is already out there...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9PkwZ9ne24

Paul
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: Big_Al on June 30, 2009, 01:11:30 PM
A lot of Camaro parts catalogs (Rick's for one) show police hub caps. Of course that doesn't mean there were any Camaros used by the police. I've never seen or heard of first generation Camaros being used by law enforcement.

Al
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: tom on June 30, 2009, 01:26:42 PM
Back in the day, I don't remember any police coupes. That has changed, and those memories are mostly of New Jersey. Of those I remember they were all 4 doors, except there might have been an undercover coupe. I'm foggy on the details, but I used to fill the tank. All I can remember was a high performance might have been a mopar, that was used to catch street racers. The officers didn't look like officers at all. Would have been maybe 72 -74 or so.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: rich69rs on June 30, 2009, 05:49:28 PM
Funny thing about my '69 RS that I never have quite understood.  When I purchased the car in Nov 1991, at that time you could still, to a certain degree, trace the car's history back through title searches via various state DMV's.  I was able to trace my car back to the person who owned it in 1983 in Chambersburg, PA.  The title was issued on Dec 8, 1983.

This is where it gets interesting.  The PA title also clearly shows that the car was originally titled on Feb 24, 1969 (my ride is a Norwood built 01C car) and then if you look just to the right of "Chevrolet" you see the letters "CP".  According to the legend to the right, C = classic car, P = formerly a police vehicle.  The car clearly was never a police car per se.  Don't know if it was confiscated by a police dept and used undercover or what the deal really was.

I have never been able to find out any more information.

See attached - not the best pic due to file size limitations, but I believe you can see the code lettering.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: cancam69 on June 30, 2009, 06:52:50 PM
Quote from: rich69rs on June 30, 2009, 05:49:28 PM
Funny thing about my '69 RS that I never have quite understood.  When I purchased the car in Nov 1991, at that time you could still, to a certain degree, trace the car's history back through title searches via various state DMV's.  I was able to trace my car back to the person who owned it in 1983 in Chambersburg, PA.  The title was issued on Dec 8, 1983.

This is where it gets interesting.  The PA title also clearly shows that the car was originally titled on Feb 24, 1969 (my ride is a Norwood built 01C car) and then if you look just to the right of "Chevrolet" you see the letters "CP".  According to the legend to the right, C = classic car, P = formerly a police vehicle.  The car clearly was never a police car per se.  Don't know if it was confiscated by a police dept and used undercover or what the deal really was.

I have never been able to find out any more information.

See attached - not the best pic due to file size limitations, but I believe you can see the code lettering.

Interesting....could it also be for Coupe?
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: Big_Al on June 30, 2009, 07:21:02 PM
I'm thinking coupe also.
It is very fuzzy but isn't the next block to the right labeled code? It has an arrow coming out and pointing to the code legend.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: crobjones2 on June 30, 2009, 08:42:14 PM
Quote from: Big_Al on June 30, 2009, 07:21:02 PM
I'm thinking coupe also.
It is very fuzzy but isn't the next block to the right labeled code? It has an arrow coming out and pointing to the code legend.

for the box labled "CODE"
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: Big_Al on June 30, 2009, 09:07:43 PM
Exactly. If it were CP for classic/police wouldn't CP be in the code box instead of the type box?

Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on July 01, 2009, 02:12:17 AM
Quote from: Big_Al on June 30, 2009, 09:07:43 PM
If it were CP for classic/police wouldn't CP be in the code box instead of the type box?

Yup!  The "CODES" box is blank.  "CP" is in the "TYPE" box, presumably for "coupe".

Paul
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: 1968RSZ28 on July 01, 2009, 12:03:11 PM
Out of curiosity I dug out my California Certificate of Title, aka "pink slip".  It has an area labeled "BODY TYPE MODEL".  The DMV typed in "CP12437" here.  I believe "CP" stands for coupe.

Paul   
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: rich69rs on July 01, 2009, 03:41:38 PM
... I believe that you all are on to something.  So much for the curiosity question.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: qwertyme77 on July 01, 2009, 10:09:31 PM
being a lifelong resident of pennsylvania i can tell you that cp absolutely stands for coupe. the block next to that (labeled "codes") is used for those codes. I have a photocopy of my old 68 camaro that lists it with a code "F" in that other box. (out of state vehicle)

paul.
Title: Re: 1st Gen Question
Post by: lakeholme on July 02, 2009, 08:01:53 AM
Back to the original question...
In the 60s and early 70s, police intercepters were still 4 door, big blocks.  Camaro interceptors were "widely" introduced in the early 90s.  Look here:
http://www.camarosource.ca/main_new_site.php?url=new_site/rare_specialty/write-ups/b4c_police_pkg.htm