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Title: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: camaro1967 on March 07, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
 I am new to this you please bear with me. I have a 67 Camaro Coupe. According to VIN 124377L149883 and cowl tag the vehicle would have been a 327. The problem is that I don't have the original engine. How can I determine if the vehicle came with a 327 210HP 2BBL carb or a 327 275HP 4BBL carb. Also not sure on transmission, the one I got with the vehicle is a TH400, although the transmission numbers coincide with the vehicle's build date how can I determine if TH400 is correct or was it a powerglide. The vehicle has a deluxe interior full front bench seat and a column shift. Trying to return vehicle to as close as original as possible.
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: tom on March 07, 2009, 04:26:52 PM
I would start with the trim tag decoder. You can download it from:
http://www.camaros.org/decoder/publicdecoder_v368.zip
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: tom on March 07, 2009, 04:31:43 PM
By the way, welcome to the site!
Post a photo of the tag if possible. Meanwhile, click on the red logo (top right) and follow the decoding links. There is a LOT of knowledge on this site.
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: camaro1967 on March 07, 2009, 05:18:56 PM
Thanks Tom for helping out a Newbie. I did the on-line decoder you suggested. I also checked Chevrolet by the numbers 1965-69 by Alan L. Colvin and Camaro restoration Guide 1967-1969 by Jason Scott. No specifics found to point either way. I did find something of interest on this site.
http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag 
2M  PWR GLIDE AUTOMATIC (NOR - only applied when D55 was included) (LOS - used in lieu of 2Z for the M40 TH400).  2Z THM400 3-speed automatic transmission (NOR only).  Am I reading this right that my vehicle did come with a TH400.

As for engine being 210HP (LF7) or 275HP (L30).  This is what I found http://www.camaros.org/l30m20.shtml . Seven different variations exist for the L30. Mine could fit
1- early L30/M20 cars with neither 4P code nor 12-bolt axle (early non- or standard-ratio posi production), or
2- a few L30/M20 cars with 12-bolt optional-ratio posi axle (non-radius rod) but no 4P code (early production),

The confusion continues. Open to suggestions. Thanks again. Claude

Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: RAfbody on March 07, 2009, 10:30:28 PM
I would say that your car was a 327/210 powerglide car.  The L30/M20 was a manual shift car and yours appears to be an automatic.  The turbo 400 was only in big block camaros (L35) in 67.
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: camaro1967 on March 07, 2009, 10:43:46 PM
Thanks Russ. I think so too but I am trying to find documented confirmation.

How can I confirm that vehicle was automatic or manual. The Cowl Tag doesn't have the 2M to indicate Powerglide.

Just trying to get it right the first time around.
Thanks again
Claude

Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: camaro1967 on March 08, 2009, 12:21:07 AM
  I made a Newbie mistake. I doubled checked my cowl tag and found my error.  Wasn't 2EHR but 2EMR.

1967 Camaro Trim Tag
GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION
03C                  U518       
ST 67    12637    LOS     18474    BODY
TR 767-H            H - 2    PAINT
E    2EMR    3K       
          Blank           Blank      
BODY BY FISHER

So the car was an automatic. Now I need to clarify taking into account that my vehicle was built in LOS.

http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#CowlTag 

2M  PWR GLIDE AUTOMATIC (LOS - used in lieu of 2Z for the M40 TH400).

Am I reading this right that my vehicle did come with a TH400. According to the previous owner the TH400 was what came in it and the tag info on TH400 does coincide with vehicle build date. A new question arises, the vehicle is a column shift. Could a TH400 be used in a column shift combination. If so, would there be something specific to identify the steering column as being for a TH400. To add to the confusion the previous owner had changed it to a floor shift and broken the shift indicator off the steering column.

Also checked http://www.chevy-camaro.com/chevy-camaro-trim-tag-decode-1967.asp

M - Powerglide transmission (LOS - TH400 it is thought)

Thanks Claude
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: KurtS on March 13, 2009, 01:29:58 AM
Claude,
You are not reading that correctly.
In the text, it states:
At the LOS factory, the 2M code was applied to any automatic transmission, including the M40 (e.g., the 2Z code was not used).

I'll make the table clearer.
Title: Re: 67 Camaro 327 info needed
Post by: camaro1967 on March 16, 2009, 01:54:20 PM
Thanks Kurt
Now I see my error.
Claude