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Camaro Research Group Discussion => Originality => Topic started by: glamis44 on August 20, 2023, 11:34:54 PM

Title: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: glamis44 on August 20, 2023, 11:34:54 PM
How can you tell the difference from the Original versus some of the Repops out there?
Title: Re: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: 169INDY on August 21, 2023, 12:14:34 AM
I copied this from a previous post a few years ago when I was interested in shopping for a Original.

ID Repop vs GM
Isn't there a injection plug right in the center of a GM one?
YES!
Originals weight about 12 lbs, the repros weigh about 20 lbs. Real ones are almost exactly 3" tall while the repros are just over 2 3/4" tall measured across the back of the bumper from lip to lip. Repros are more flexible the the originals (softer urethane), theres also a difference in the tabs the the center brackets attach to, the bracket consists of two metal tabs next to each other, one about twice the width of the other, but at different heights to match the bracket that attaches to the frame rail. On the repros both of these brackets are square, while on the original bumpers the larger of the two tabs has an angled cut on the edge furthest from the bumper, and it also has a circular notch cut out of the smaller of the two tabs, the repros smaller tab is just a rectangle, the repros have a square notch cut out on the edge of the larger tab, next to the smaller tab where the tabs meet.

This is a GM replacement from the early 1970s. The urethane is yellow , the only reproduction i have seen the urethane was black .
Title: Re: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: glamis44 on August 21, 2023, 06:38:17 PM
What about the inner and outer brackets that hold the Endura Bumper?

Some Inner brackets that are supposed to be original have the L & R stamped in them, while most aftermarket have nothing. Is this the only ID mark? Or is that stamped in repops to?

The outer brackets have the KR or KL to be original?

I have not seen any pics of part numbers stamped or another way to ID them.

Title: Re: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: 169INDY on August 21, 2023, 07:17:04 PM
Oh Crud, I finally read you were asking Brackets- Sorry about that,  I squirreled to the Bumper itself.

I have a friend with an original including brackets hanging in his garage and will get over for a picture session.
Title: Re: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: glamis44 on August 21, 2023, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: 169INDY on August 21, 2023, 07:17:04 PM
Oh Crud, I finally read you were asking Brackets- Sorry about that,  I squirreled to the Bumper itself.

I have a friend with an original including brackets hanging in his garage and will get over for a picture session.

:) No worries, I appreciate the response and the help. Ill post some pics of mine and maybe we can compare.
Title: Re: Endura Bumper Brackets
Post by: z28z11 on August 21, 2023, 10:06:52 PM
Try this thread from a few years back. Repop brackets have improved over the last several years, a lot closer than they used to be. Bumpers have improved, but still need a little extra effort to be closer to the OE profile, particularly the ends. Bracket pics are on page 2 -

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9976.msg74662#msg74662

Regards,
Steve