Good Morning from Austria in Europe,
I bought a 1969 Camaro in August 2020 and I now know that the trim tag is a reproduction. Does anyone have any information about this car, if it really is what the tag tells or what it was originally if not so?
Car has the following features:
Vin and Body number match from the Date
NCRS Report states that production date on the tag is correct
partial Vin below the windshield is correct
396 engine, non matching numbers, cast Date Mai 1969
Muncie M20 4 speed, non matching numbers, Muncie hole
12 Bolt
Headlight washer selenoid but not with tubes and washers
Blacked out Tail Pan
AC with some parts of Vintage air, as a heat control knob in the glove box
Multi leaf springs, but only 3
2 fuel lines including return line
correct SS396 moldings, as far as I can tell
Cowl induction hood but only the hood without wiring (aftermarket I guess just for the appearence)
Glove compartment light
Disk brakes on the front
Body Number is: NOR249670
I really appreciate your help and knowledge.
Thank you very much
Stefan
Easier to track and comment if we have the VIN.
sorry, Vin is 124379N590489
Thank you
The Bulletmotorsports ad comes up on a Google search for the VIN.
Looks to be a decent car. The a/c housing is correct for a BB as is are the transmission crossmember and tach. Engine bay is aftermarket/repro everything. Core support a/c seals are missing. Should have 2 horns; the one present is aftermarket.
Could be it was originally poor re-sale colors so the tag was changed.
Don't worry about it. Enjoy as is.
Who told you the trim tag is a reproduction? Post a picture of it.
Ed
You can see it here. At least the 6 and 9 look fishy
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hi5lumkj5i7m1wu/IMG_8137.jpg?dl=0
Yup, repro.
curious if you knew about the tag prior to purchase?
In fact I did not. Was watching 10 mustangs and this Camaro just to confirm it has to be a 67 fastback. After approximately 10 minutes I knew the Camaro is the one. Was said by the seller it is an original X22. But did not buy in the US. 2016 it was sold to a museum in Sweden and then 2020 to Germany and then to me. I have contact to the last owner in the US. But he also does not know a lot because he got the car somewhat in exchange because someone owed him money or so
Well, yes it's a reproduction trim tag, but since the engine and transmission aren't original, it's going to be very difficult to discern what it actually came from the factory as. The BULLETMOTORSPORTS (https://www.bulletmotorsports.com/vehicles/163/1969-chevrolet-camaro-ss) web site gives absolutely NO real information about the car so it's useless. Just typical dealer mumbo jumbo.
Does it have a 12 bolt rear end? If so, what's the code stamped on the passenger side axle tube?
Ed
Well even though it has a reproduction trim tag, the car still has a decent amount of value, since it is a 69 Camaro. Of course the more original it and components are the better. I would speculate that more people in your region are more into the looks and features of the 69 Camaro, and care less about the trim tag. There are many 69 Camaros in the states that get bought and sold with reproduction trim tags to unsuspecting buyers. Some people buy them even knowing the tag has been replaced, because they like the look of the car. Once the tag is known as replaced the car will sell for a discounted rate. Just remember the car is worth what someone is willing to pay. ;)
Have fun with it, I can't imagine you seeing another one like it over there.
Yes it has a 12 bolt, since it is in the garage I could only find these numbers by crawling under the car:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jm78kzh6a37j991/Foto%2002.06.21%2C%2018%2010%2007.jpg?dl=0
It is basically not really about what it is worth. I know I paid a high amount for it. I am just curious about what I have. No matter what I will enjoy and yes there are not a lot 396 around here.
You need to look HERE (http://www.camaros.org/drivetrain.shtml#axle) for the numbers stamped on the axle tube.
Ed
I tried with a small camera but could not see anything. Have to look when it is in the shop again
Might have to use a little lacquer thinner to remove paint?
As far as I can see place wise the standings are covered by the parts that hold the leaf springs so unfortunately I won't really be able to access it
It all boils down to how you feel. If you believe you got the car at a fair price and can live with the fact that it's not what it was represented as, then you're okay. Enjoy the car for what it is.
However, if it gnaws at you that you got taken and you paid way more than what the car now seems worth, you should contact the seller and get your money back.
Ed