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Title: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: RichSS2006 on October 28, 2019, 08:18:31 PM
I'm currently restoring a 69 Z11. This is a one owner car. I've known the car for many years. I knew the owner and bought it from the owners daughter after he passed. It is original drive train and came with documents.

The rear seat area has a XO or a XD on the rear seat bulk head. I showed it to James (firstgenaddict) today. He suggested I post it here. So what is it? I thought it maybe X = houndstooth O = Orange.
What does every one think? Just wondering.
Thanks in advance. Rich
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: jcabuilder on October 29, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
I have a 1969 Z28 that has a similar mark, but mine has X3.  I suspected it was my trim code.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: 69Z28-RS on October 29, 2019, 11:02:06 PM
Quote from: jcabuilder on October 29, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
I have a 1969 Z28 that has a similar mark, but mine has X3.  I suspected it was my trim code.


X3 is the shorthand they used on the rear bulkhead to denote an X33 package (Z28 with style trim)...
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: KevinW on October 30, 2019, 06:24:14 AM
Well, that is different! They couldn't write X1, since that was used for X-11 :)
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: william on October 30, 2019, 08:00:03 AM
I believe X0 has been seen on other Z11s.

Fisher Body did a fine job of controlling and removing engineering build instructions from the assembly plants. Virtually nothing has been found.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: KurtS on October 30, 2019, 09:31:24 PM
As noted, other pacers have had XO on them. It doesn't fit the pattern of truncating the X code, as Kevin noted.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: firstgenaddict on October 31, 2019, 10:00:19 AM
Couldn't use a 1 because that would have indicated black painted rockers.

As far as I can remember we have deduced that the X1 X3 R3 etc are believed to be Fisher paint shop codes, thus (XO) most likely they represented the following. 
X= black interior paint
O= Orange Stripes
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: william on October 31, 2019, 12:06:55 PM
We have many cars in the database with an X code and a non-black interior; many with a 1 and body color rockers even with style trim group.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: ssl78 on October 31, 2019, 02:15:26 PM
My pace car also had X0 it probably doesnt matter but it was a big block pace car
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: RichSS2006 on October 31, 2019, 05:33:16 PM
Quote from: ssl78 on October 31, 2019, 02:15:26 PM
My pace car also had X0 it probably doesnt matter but it was a big block pace car
This one is a SBC.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: william on October 31, 2019, 07:11:13 PM
The CRG db has 2 Z10s with X0 on the bulkhead.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: firstgenaddict on November 02, 2019, 07:38:04 AM
The O could have stood for additional instructions or special paint instructions just as the O did in 1967. -
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: KurtS on November 02, 2019, 10:02:42 PM
0 was probably just internally understood to be a Z11/Z10. It's the only "non-X" tag code so it wouldn't complicated. :)
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: william on November 03, 2019, 12:22:50 PM
Another non-standard feature on Z10/Z11 was D96 fender striping. Some very early production Z/28s w/Z21/Z22 probably had them but they were quickly discontinued.
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: bcmiller on November 03, 2019, 01:29:07 PM
And if anyone needs reminded about stripes...

http://www.camaros.org/exterior.shtml#stripes
Title: Re: Help with 69 Z11 rear sear bulkhead marking
Post by: BillG on November 06, 2019, 07:48:08 PM
My Z11 has XO on the bulk head. I'd post a pic if I could.