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I have a 1969 camaro. Its VIN is 124379n56057. I've decoded its cowl tag. It was LeMans Blue with ivory standard interior and a parcemnt vinal top. It built in the second week of december.  It still has the orignnal rear end which a 12 bolt with a 2:56 ring gear and multi-leaf springs. Im guessing it was a 350 v-8 car because it has the duel fuel lines and it was a small block car. It was 3 speed auto with colume shift. It had four wheel non power drum brakes.  I just wanted to know is there a way to find out if it was one of these cars. I don't have a build sheet but everything I have points that way. Any help

Post the cowl tag numbers and that may help ID the car better and the rear numbers if you have them.

the tag reads: st6912437nor195236bdy
                    tr727  12b  71e  pnt
                             x44

Yes, the car is an LM1. No other model could have an X44 tag and 2 fuel lines.
Could you check the VIN, it's missing a digit?
Do you have the rear axle code?

Thanks!

sorry the vin is 124379n560573. i will post the rear axles codes later today. has this car ever been registered?

Kurt Im surprised that he found a 2:56 gearing in that 12bolt. Although I suppose someone could have changed out the gears. With the LM1 were you able to order such a highway gear for it? I thought only the Powerglides had that low of an option?

I've seen others with a 2.56. It appears that it was the economy ratio.

No, it was not in the database.

It has a 3 speed indicator on the column? Trans is gone?

Thanks!

Yes and the orignnal engine. It has a 75 350 in it now, but Im building a 327 for it out of another 69 camaro. It will take few days for me to get the axles codes. What can i do to get it registered.

It's already added to the db. :)

i got two of the rear axle numbers. i have the casting code which reads L68. i looked at the chart on CRG that was just posted but mine has only those 2 numbers and that letter. Also I have casting number which is 3894860NF which i already know its a 12 bolt. Thrusday I'll post the axle code because i have to pull the tires off. I know it starts with a P

Congratulations. It sounds like a really cool car. I have heard of LM1s, but what exactly were they?

Don from Midland, TX

Quote from: huggerorange on March 14, 2007, 01:57:38 PM
I have heard of LM1s, but what exactly were they?

Don from Midland, TX

Don -

Here's your answer:

http://www.camaros.org/lm1.shtml

Paul

Its going to be a really cool car some day. It's just a daily drive for now. It needs to be restored but Im doing what I can till that time comes. It was my first car so its really specail to me

the axles code is PY1101G now it also had a marking behind the G that looked like another 1, but im not sure if thats part of the number. So is it possible for it to be the right rear end.

camaromikey -

Yes, it appears to be the correct rear axle for your car.  Yes, the 1 after the G is part of the axle code and is interpreted as "first shift".  PY1101G1 decodes as 2.56:1 axle ratio, non-posi, 12 bolt rear axle assembled on November 1, 1968 by the Detroit Gear & Axle Plant, first shift.  The date also would be correct for a 12B built car.  Congratulations!

Paul   

Actually, that's a long time between the axle and a body in that timeframe. Could it be PY1201G1?
Unusual if it is PY1101G1, but with that code and application, I highly suspect that it is original.

sorry i fat fingered it when i typed it in. Its PY1211G1. i have picture of it this time too. The P is under the sway bar clamp.

Quote from: KurtS on March 16, 2007, 03:23:25 AM
Actually, that's a long time between the axle and a body in that timeframe.

Hi Kurt -

Could you please elaborate on your above comment?  I based my response to "camaromikey" on my own car's numbers and would like to find out where I'm off.  I have a 02C built Los Angeles '68Z.  The numbers on it's original axle are:

rear axle stamp:  BU0119G1
                              E

axle casting date:  A38

axle casting number:  3894860NF

axle foundry control number:  CON1

Thanks in advance!

Paul

Paul,
Different year, different plant, different production usage patterns. :)

Mike,
Thanks! That looks a lot better!

Quote from: KurtS on March 16, 2007, 09:04:28 PM
Paul,
Different year, different plant, different production usage patterns. :)

Kurt -

What do you mean by different plant?  Wasn't my rear axle also assembled by the Detroit Gear & Axle Plant?   ???

Paul

NOR vs LOS.

Got it!  Thanks.

Paul