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william

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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2012, 01:17:35 AM »
Also notice the engine lift brackets being natural and not painted chevy orange.
Nice pic George to display.......

They probably aren't natural. Some of the bracketry on aluminum intake engines was brush painted.
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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2012, 07:13:06 PM »
JohnZ wrote:
"Have your buddy read my "1st Generation Camaro Assembly Process" report if he doesn't believe how the body and sheet metal were painted; the Fisher Body/Car Division assembly plants painted the body and front sheet metal in different plants for 50 years.  "

Good example and case in point:   I own 55 and '57 Nomads, both assembled in the Atlanta, GA assembly plant.   but ALL Nomad bodies were build in Cleveland ('55 thru '57 at least).   The Cleveland fisher body plant delivered the bodies (from firewalll back) painted and complete with interior in place,  in Atlanta (and other assembly plants as far away as LA), the bodies were placed on the chassis along with engines and drivetrain, front sheet metal etc..  so in these (and lots of cases) the front clips were painted not only in different (adjacent plants) but also in different STATES with a train ride in between...  :)

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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2012, 03:06:24 PM »
George,
Can you take a photo of your front engine lift hook. I saw yours in this photo and noticed it is angled like mine and not rounded. The person the did the inspection on my car said this was not the correct lift. But, knowing our two cars were built at the same plant in the same week and now seeing yours I am think that it is factory intstalled even though it is not the rounded lift hook.

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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2012, 05:29:21 PM »
Mickey, The engine from my car was taken apart 18 years ago by previous owner. He saved & bagged everything, but I got 2 lift brackets in with the parts. I saw the squared top bracket in Jerry's book and decided to use that one. Does not make it correct though. Maybe these are left over 1968 brackets because I have seen them on 68 396's.
Here are pictures of both of mine.  George.

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« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2012, 08:09:05 PM »
Thanks George. The top pic is the bracket that is on my car.

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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2012, 09:51:17 PM »
The bracket in the bottom photo with the rounded corners is the correct bracket for 68-69 B/B. The rounded bracket in the above photo is correct for 70 B/B because the bracket was drilled for a return spring. The 68-69 B/B bracket did not have hole drill in it for return spring.

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« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2012, 03:14:13 PM »
<<The bracket in the bottom photo with the rounded corners is the correct bracket for 68-69 B/B. The rounded bracket in the above photo is correct for 70 B/B because the bracket was drilled for a return spring. The 68-69 B/B bracket did not have hole drill in it for return spring.>>

??? Those two statements appear to conflict with each other.
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2012, 12:23:27 AM »
Yes I was a little confused about that myself. Can you please clarify?

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2012, 01:39:31 AM »
The bracket in the bottom photo with the rounded corners is the correct bracket for 68-69 B/B. The rounded bracket in the above photo is correct for 70 B/B because the bracket was drilled for a return spring. The 68-69 B/B bracket did not have hole drill in it for return spring.
The rounded bracket with the small hole in I do not think was for throttle return spring because the hole is on the front of the bracket away from the carb. Here is a picture of the rounded bracket. It has a part number 3969829 stamped on it but the 8 is very faint, could be a 3. This picture is again from the 1970 454 LS6. George.

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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2018, 02:27:00 AM »
Sorry to drag up an old post, but I felt this was the correct place to post these pictures.
I just came back from another fabulous MCACN show, and was drawn in by a totally original 489 mile 1972 Corvette. One of the things I wondered about was how the bypass hose was painted.
It is a cast iron intake manifold and the hose was entirely covered in paint. Remembered this post and wanted to share. George

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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2018, 06:07:21 AM »
good pics. Definitely a show I want to attend.
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« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2018, 12:53:45 PM »
Thanks George. Yes the bypass hose on big blocks was painted originally. Donít let anybody tell you different. :)

There were/are some CRG guys around at the show.
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Re: Engine painting poll
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2018, 11:22:57 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2018, 12:35:01 AM »
Whatís the date of the pic Darrell? Thatís important. We know practices changed in the 70s.

At least on big blocks that had painted valve covers (Corvette, Full Size) and also had cast iron intakes, itís pretty much accepted that the hoses were NORMALLY painted. Can we say with 100 percent certainty - for EVERY engine in that category - that they were always that way? Probably not. There could have been times when different practices were tried and abandoned (maybe a comparison of material cost saved versus labor time added). Who knows? Nobody. Because one person was not there 24/7 to monitor.

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Bryon / 1968 Camaro SS 396 coupe - now old school 468 big block
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« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2018, 03:08:58 AM »
The first I saw the old engine painting picture was when I thought JohnZ posted but know I saved it. LOL Not sure how many CRG members were at MCACN but I talked to a few like George here.
George, great talking to you and how about some of those barn finds displayed? I checked that Corvette out and what a car but the hood was not up when I was checking it out. Boy could that car do well in NCRS events and thanks for posting the engine picture as that is being saved I'm sure by a lot of us.
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