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jdv69z

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Original Drivetrains
« on: May 25, 2012, 01:24:33 PM »
I'm curious as to how many of the 67-69 Z/28's out there still have their original drive train, particularly the original engine. Just a general feel. Would it be half? Less than that? More?
As many cars as Jerry Mac has authenticated, I would think he would have a pretty good idea.

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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 07:09:50 PM »
I would guess less than 10%. Every Z that I knew of were run hard.
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 09:36:00 PM »
Probably less than 10% of the Camaros carrying Z28 emblems *ever* had a 302...  :)
of those that did, it would be a small percentage.. I would have guessed less than 25%, but couldn't argue with Steve's 10% guess....

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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2012, 01:47:07 PM »
Jimmy an interesting question. I would agree the number is likely low as these cars were designed to run....
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2012, 06:19:34 PM »
Also, Camaros have been a big part of the modified market for some time now. Unfortunately, not everyone held onto original drivetrains.
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2012, 09:13:19 PM »
I think we put to much of a premium on (Numbers Matching). Correct dated  parts are correct parts!  Lots of these cars now have correct motors, there just out of someone Else's car. What would the hobby be ,if  most cars have matching numbers?

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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2012, 10:15:27 PM »
On the flip side of the coin I thought this is what it's all about. Preservation of the cars with originality. Without the original parts it's just another car and you could actually build it out of a junk yard. 
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2012, 11:06:19 PM »
I know of  "No Car " this old ,that has "All"of it's original parts. If you bought the car brand new and  parked it for 40 years, I would say yes.   Parts must come from other cars (junk yards, nos,etc.)   Once an original drive train is gone, and you can't find it, your only legal option is from another car!    A car can have (Matching Numbers) "VIN", and still have many wrong components. 

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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2012, 02:24:25 AM »
You are correct. I was only referring to your previous post about putting a premium on cars with original Numbers Matching drive trains. If I want a Cadillac motor I'll buy a Cadillac. I will walk past a dozen 100 thousand dollar "Camaros" to look at a nice survivor or a well done restored car.
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 09:13:36 PM »
I agree, to me the original cars are very cool to look at, and to me it doesn't matter if its a six cylinder or V8, Mustang or Camaro. Seeing the original patina and preservation of a classic, is  a little special. I still enjoy restored cars, but the survivors and drivers are what I appreciate. There will always be trailer queens out there, and they are part of the hobby as well.....
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 09:55:09 PM »
I agree, to me the original cars are very cool to look at, and to me it doesn't matter if its a six cylinder or V8, Mustang or Camaro. Seeing the original patina and preservation of a classic, is  a little special. I still enjoy restored cars, but the survivors and drivers are what I appreciate. There will always be trailer queens out there, and they are part of the hobby as well.....

I agree entirely. I'm a 'stock' guy. When at a car show and walking towards a car that looks stock on the outside and if I see an aftermarket air cleaner when getting closer, I'll continue to walk past it. But if it passes the air cleaner housing test, then I'll stop and give it a long study no matter what brand or model as long as it is stock.

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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 11:01:01 PM »
Ditto that Mike, I think a numbers matching drivetrain is a bit more special it's that simple.

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« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 07:26:05 PM »
Most every one I see advertised for sale either says "matching number drive train" or "original drive train". Either the very few actual original drive train cars are the ones being offered for sale, or there is a whole lot of misleading advertising going on. I'm assuming most of these cars are not exactly being represented accurately.

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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 08:01:01 PM »
I know where your coming from Jimmy. I get so tired of seeing ad's that state: Numbers Matching, Numbers Correct, Correct Drive-train, Date Coded Drive-train. Everyone tries to put there spin on it.
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Re: Original Drivetrains
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 08:07:38 PM »
I think 10% is a little high. Out of all the 60,s muscle cars I have had all the way back to the seventies, I don,t think I have ever owned an original drivetrain car. Junk yard drivetrains were the way to go back then.
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