Author Topic: 1969 Z/28 Cowl Tag, Weird looking (Read 9796 times)

dannystarr · « **on:** March 12, 2012, 06:38:03 AM »

Why do some of the letters and numbers seem much lighter in depth? And sort of blurred compared to other numbers RIGHT next to them? I don't understand how this can be. Look at the 71 71 paint code and the X77D80. Danny

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2012, 06:56:39 AM »

Well number 1 those rivets or screws holding on the tag look incorrect, leading one to believe that this tag has been modified. Also it looks as if the pertinent info was perhaps stamped in from another tag. I would guess this to be a fake tag, SO BEWARE. I would be open to hear the opinion of anyone else to see their point of view.

william · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2012, 01:42:11 PM »

It's a genuine tag, just has a lot of paint on it.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2012, 03:39:03 PM »

a lot of paint, but only on the important info? How could that be?

william · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2012, 03:47:28 PM »

Blank tags were pre-stamped with ST NOR BDY TR PNT. Unit-specific info was added when Fisher released the production order to fabricate the body. The secondary stampings were often not as crisp as the first.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2012, 04:04:42 PM »

I agree with the blank tags, I just haven't seen a real one that has the other info so softly imprinted, and it looks like possibly a phillps screw mark on one of the rivets. Am I seeing that correctly?

dannystarr · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2012, 04:40:39 PM »

Thanx Guys...Yes it does look like a baby phillips screw on the right side. What are the chances that the goop to fill the hole molds up like that?? Funny how JUST inside this red line, the info is a different shade of black. I know sometimes if it is really cold while painting, paint will do this exactly. I don't know. Is this car in the data base and certified by Jerry M. or ??......Danny

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »

well what is this car claimed to be? there could be other signs, this plate would raise suspicions, now a days you have to check out everything with these cars. Give us some more info on the car in question, and definitely more pics. thanks

dannystarr · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2012, 05:58:50 PM »

Here it is on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-1969-Chevrolet-Camaro-Z28-302DZ-Muncie-4-speed-LOW-MILES-Great-Color-/190650300107?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item2c63a4b6cb#v4-38

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2012, 06:28:35 PM »

low miles, but NOM motor. Clean looking car, but I think overpriced considering it is not the original motor, even if the tag is correct.

Mike S · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2012, 07:31:12 PM »

Could it be a coating of some sort? Even what looks like a screw head for the right side rivet looks covered on the left edge.

Mike

DavidS · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:48:58 AM »

Quote from: BULLITT65 on March 12, 2012, 06:28:35 PM

low miles, but NOM motor. Clean looking car, but I think overpriced considering it is not the original motor, even if the tag is correct.

I think I must have missed something. The ad states "Behind the cars original motor..................".

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:41:23 AM »

"Mostly original Z/28" he states a "correct 302" in the beginning of the ad, and then later on goes on to describe a X-33 car, when it is clear this is a X-77 car. To many questions I think, surrounding this car, to take a chance everything is ok. It seems you have to thoroughly research and investigate these cars to being with, and then you run across a car like this that raises a lot of suspicion to begin with. This car could be legit, it may take a Camaro expert to look at it, or the protecto plate to prove that it is what it is advertised as. Just like to make sure people get what they are paying for, is all.

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2012, 04:57:25 PM »

any one notice the trans stamp? it clearly says 29N which would be pontiac. master cylinder is wrong. cowl seal is on upside down, the casting date on the rear is F 18 9. kinda late for an 06A car! more questions than answers. he shows alot of pics of the easy stuff like the body and paint. not alot on the good stuff. oh yeah, the carb is an over the counter replacement as well.

BULLITT65 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2012, 05:06:45 PM »

Good eye, I noticed the master, cowl, battery cables, but didn't bother looking up the numbers, was already suspicious of the car. Way to go looking up the numbers!

KurtS · « **Reply #15 on:** March 13, 2012, 05:27:21 PM »

Car was restored in 98 and was in CA in 2000 for $27K. Not sure it's changed much since then....

The description mention AM radio and style trim - it has neither.

Axle is cast F189, built 06 2?. Looks correct.
Don't know about that trans stamp.

69Z28-RS · « **Reply #16 on:** March 14, 2012, 04:01:11 AM »

About half of the restored cars I see have the cowl seal on (what appears to be upside down)... Or at least formed incorrectly. It is possible I think to mount it incorrectly, but I think it takes some effort to form the seal correctly when you install a new one. I recall back in the seventies, I purchased a new seal from Chevy, then I used strips of masking tape to keep the seal 'turned' out' the right way, until I got the hood down on it and let it sit like that for a few days.. then it was OK and has been OK since..

Gary

x77-69z28 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 14, 2012, 04:45:07 AM »

kurt, wouldnt F 18 9 be the third week of june? and thats the casting date, not the assembly date. or are all june cars dated 06A?

69glacierblue · « **Reply #18 on:** March 15, 2012, 03:19:04 AM »

Norwood June cars are O6A for all weeks. Found this out when I was researching mine on this site and Team Camaro.

digi-69 · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2012, 06:30:21 PM »

Clearly a fake Z/28. It is very nice though, but not for $59K! Worth about $15 or less with that fake tag.

crobjones2 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:26:59 PM »

I love the mismatching plates, CA and FL

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Author Topic: 1969 Z/28 Cowl Tag, Weird looking (Read 9796 times)