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« on: March 02, 2012, 12:03:11 PM »

Roy Woods started his Trans-Am team in 1969 with a single '69 Camaro and then branched out a 2-car Camaro team in 1970, adding Milt Minter in the other team car. For 1971, Woods switched to AMC Javelins when he got two cars from Roger Penske. In 1972, Roy Woods took over as the factory AMC team from Roger Penske as Roger went off to other endeavors and the factory participation fell to nearly nothing besides AMC.

Thanks to Ken Ulrich, who moved over from the Todco Racing team to Roy Woods for 1972, we have pictures of Wood's team from that '72 season.




Traco-built AMC engine with dry-sump. Notice the special Traco intake manifold.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Loading the cars in LA for the start of the 1972 Trans-Am season.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Both cars on the transporter.

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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2012, 12:16:14 PM »

Start of the 1972 Watkins Glen Trans-Am. That's Warren Tope's #31 (ex-Bud Moore) Mustang next to the Javelin.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

An overview of the pits at the Donnybrooke Trans-Am (Brainerd, MN)

Photo by Ken Ulrich

The exhaust is on the ground behind the pit wall during an engine change at Donnybrooke.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Tire change and gas during the Donnybrooke race.

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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2012, 01:43:32 PM »

Some of the BEST RWR stuff that I've seen!!!   I know of TWO of those intakes, and have always wondered about their origin.....did they come from Penske or did RWR have those built.  The other one that I've seen has TWO four barrels.  And the exhaust system looks like the 71 Penske version...probably a carryover.  I've got a very similar set that came with Buzz Dyer's old car.  I believe Buzz has one on his 70 Javelin to this day.

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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2012, 02:22:03 PM »

Very glad to hear that you are enjoying the photos. That's why I'm doing this and why others share.


Ken Ulrich's toolbox with George Follmer's helmet in it.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

George Follmer, 1972 Trans-Am champion.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Adrian, MI shop used by the team during the season. Note the Matador wagon team car which says Roy Woods Racing on the door.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Serious work going on in the Adrian shop.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Bill Collins' Javelin. This apparently was the car Mark Donohue drove to the T/A championship in 1971.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

(L-to-R) Driver Bobby Ferro, crew chief John Schwarz, and team owner/driver Roy Woods.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

From the Bryar Trans-Am. Not sure if it's a picture of the girl, the Pinto or the RWR wagon.  Cheesy

Photo by Ken Ulrich
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2012, 02:02:01 AM »

Very Cool pictures Ken, thanks for letting us enjoy them. Cool
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2012, 05:23:56 PM »

Roy Woods discussing something about the car with crew chief Jerry Schwarz and fabricator/mechanic Ken Ulrich.

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Roy Woods strapped in and ready.

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Looks like some brake bleeding has taken place or is getting ready to happen.

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Tire change and gas.

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2012, 11:52:00 AM »

Roy Woods raced Camaros prior to switching to Javelins for the 1971 season. Here's an article from my Winter 1969 issue of 1001 Custom and Rod Ideas magazine.


















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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2012, 07:44:53 AM »

Roy Woods raced Camaros prior to switching to Javelins for the 1971 season. Here's an article from my Winter 1969 issue of 1001 Custom and Rod Ideas magazine.




















Les Lindley owned and raced this Camaro in the late 1970's and 1980...
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« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2012, 03:12:36 PM »

Is this car alive and well?  being vintage raced?

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« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2012, 07:09:53 PM »

Great period article on this 1970 season, '69 ARA Camaro.  Thanks for posting this, Jon.

Though many corrections could be made to the text, one that I think really deserves straightening out is where the article states:

  "Similar to the Penske-Donohue Camaro, ARA has installed a Watts Linkage aft of the rear end housing."

The Penske Camaros used a Panhard bar, not a Watts Link. 

This ARA Camaro is awfully similar to a 1969 Titus-Godsall Firebird in it's construction, given that Jerry Schwarz put his hands on both.

Really fantastic detail photos in this article, even if they're reproduced on newsprint style paper.

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« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2012, 08:41:26 PM »

Why was I thinking the RWR Camaro was ex-Penske?   I know they "revised" the '70 Javelins to '71 specs, but I always thought this car was bought and prepared much like the following year..    so where was the '69 champ car in '70?    Ken
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« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2012, 09:12:13 PM »

For the '70 season the ARA racing team had two '69 Camaros.  One was ex-Penske and the other was their own creation.

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« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2012, 10:38:12 AM »

On the grid at the '72 Watkins Glen Trans-Am

Photo by Ken Ulrich

In the winner's circle at WG.

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Huge bottle of champagne, probably now empty.

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« Reply #13 on: March 22, 2012, 02:06:46 PM »

Javelin front axle, rotor, and fabricated sheet metal upright, 1972

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« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2012, 02:13:38 PM »

George Follmer in the paddock with the cars at the '72 Bryar Trans-Am.

Photo by Ken Ulrich

Roy Woods oversees Follmer's pitstop himself.

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Tire change and gas.

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« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2012, 08:37:53 PM »

Any chance I could get some dimensions on those uprights?Huh

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« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2012, 10:49:01 AM »

I have not heard from Ken regarding measurements and I suspect he would not have that information now. I'll see if I can remember to take a photo when I'm at the Sonoma Historics in June.

Here's the Roy Woods' Camaro at the ARRC event at Daytona in November '69. Roy placed 5th and the race
for the SCCA National A/Sedan Championship was won by Bill Petree (in another '69 Camaro) from Michigan.
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« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2012, 05:28:49 PM »


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« Reply #18 on: June 04, 2012, 01:22:43 PM »

Peter Revson climbs into his Roy Woods Javelin prior to the '71 Michigan Trans-Am. These Roy Woods Javelins
were reskinned 1970 Javelins raced by Penske during the 1970 season. I didn't know you could simply do a
reskin job on these cars as they look very different to me than the '70 version, but that's what I heard was done.

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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2012, 01:08:31 PM »

I remember an article in the Speed and Sport paper, an interview with Woods about updating the cars-- It's quite involved.. Huh   From the rear doorjamb forward is bolt-on; doors and windshield are the same for all Javelins, as is back glass, rear valance and trunk lid...   71 and up cars are "taller" in the taillight panel, moving the spoiler and decklid up... so, different quarters, tail, roof and all the internal sheet metal that goes with those items......  then throw in the 1 inch shorter weelbase of a 70 car, and you have a bunch of new AMC sheetmetal which " ...doesn't quite fit... Angry       Ken
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2012, 01:10:00 PM »

OH YEAH!!  Somebody PLEASE show a picture of that TRACO intake topless.....   Wink
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« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2012, 12:45:33 AM »

Wow, I would have never thought about the doors, trunk lid, and those other items being common between the two body styles. Thanks a lot for pointing that out. Anyone out there have that issue of National Speed Sport News???
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« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2012, 11:46:00 AM »

The rear bumper is also the same from 68-74.   Kudos to AMC for keeping things 'budget'.  I too would love to see how RWR got those 71 quarters on the 1" shorter 70 chassis.  I think it forced them to make the quarter window smaller, lengthwise.  That's the only place that it appears, to me, the car is different from the 71 Penske-built car.

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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2012, 01:32:47 AM »

More great info. Thank you!

Here's an ad from January '71 when Roy Woods was making the switch over to the Javelins.
You can see that they had previously used both Bob Joehnck and Al Bartz Chevy engines.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2012, 12:48:38 AM »

October 24, 1970 ad in Competition Press & Autoweek. Roy Woods puts both '69 Camaros up for sale right after the Riverside Trans-Am.
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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2012, 03:34:50 PM »

Competition Press & Autoweek race report covering the ARRC event at Raod Atlanta. This ARRC event is
run for the national championship in each car category. Roy Woods won the A-sedan national championship
in this late November '70 race. Roy was using Camaros in Trans-Am for the entire 1970 season and had
bought the two Penske Javelins after the end of the Trans-Am season. Note that the article indicatates
that they had already pulled the car apart to begin converting it into a '71 but then had to put it back
to a '70 bodystyle to make this race. Many thanks to Mike K (Swede70) for sharing this with us.




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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2012, 06:00:09 PM »

RWR Press Kit
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From Press Kit
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« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2014, 11:15:56 AM »

Mark Ellis use to be a crew member for Roy Woods' race team back in the early '70s and he was kind enough to scan these photos from his personal collection for all of us to enjoy. The captions come directly from him. Many thanks for sharing these with us, Mark. I'm sure you have some great memories from working for the RWR team.


Frank Martinez, Suzan Ellis and Jeff Woo sitting on the back of the RWR Trick Truck mid-week at Donnybrooke.



Follmer, with his back to us, talking with Roy and Jerry Schwarz before the 1972 Lime Rock Trans Am.



Judy Stropus, she knew the relative positions of the entire field for the entire race.



Roy's car under the canopy attached to the Trick Truck.  That's Ken Ulrich just in front of Roy's girlfriend.



Attendee inspection.



Cars on Beefheart shortly after arriving at Great Barrington, MA (near Lime Rock)



Roy at practice before the 1972 Lime Rock Trans Am.



Mark Ellis and Ken Ulrich talking with Roy.



Mark Ellis changing George's blue air dam tabs during routine (waxing) service at Donnybrooke.



Jeff Woo with Follmer's car during routine (waxing) service at Donnybrooke.



Ken Ulrich checking something (throttle linkage?) while Jerry Schwarz (crew chief) and Mark Ellis supervise the procedure.



Ken Ulrich, Mark Ellis and Jerry Schwarz with Trick Truck and Beefheart in the motel parking lot at Great Barrington (near Lime Rock).



Jeff Woo checking tire pressure on George's car.  Roy's red air dam tabs need attention, also.
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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2014, 09:13:45 PM »

Great stuff Jon,
 RWR was quite an operation I wonder what their source of funding was?? Somebody must have had some pretty deep pockets........... I especially liked their double deck transporter, that was one cool unit.

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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2014, 12:19:38 AM »

Al, I'm pretty sure it was Roy who had the deep pockets but I don't know where the money came from. I'm pretty sure he was not just a front for somebody else's money.
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2014, 01:03:31 AM »

Was RWR sponsored by Carling at some point? Seem to recall the cars having the Carling Black Label logo, but that may have been later in the 70's....
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« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2014, 12:12:53 AM »

Here's a nice article from Competition Press & Autoweek that gives some good insight into Roy Woods and his team.
Many thanks to Craig Wheeldon for sharing this with us. Yes, Carling did sponsor Roy's cars starting in 1973.






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« Reply #33 on: April 20, 2014, 12:36:14 AM »

1973 Carling Black Label news release, courtesy of Craig Wheeldon.
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« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2014, 09:26:10 AM »

Jon,
 Do you know where in Gardena the Kastner-Brophy Inc.  Co. was located?
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« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2014, 10:32:57 AM »

429 East Alondra Blvd. is the address I have seen mentioned.
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« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2014, 10:51:51 AM »

Just came by these pictures of the RWR Javelin during one of it's restorations.
Original post here, http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/?showtopic=67624

Here are some pics of that Javelin. It's a 1971 Javelin, built by Roger Penske Racing and driven to the 1971 Championship by Mark Donohue. It was then sold to Roy Woods Racing and driven to the 72 Championship by George Follmer. We restored this car 2x. After the 1st, the owner had parked it outdoors under a sheet of plastic and with tarps over that. Even though it was in sunny southern California, moisture trapped under the plastic destroyed the lacquer paint inside and out. We also did a more extensive restoration the 2nd time. Including repairing some crash damage inflicted in the TransAm wars in the Penske days. It had been nicely repaired, but there was 2" thick bondo in the front inner panels ahead of the wheel wells. And this 2nd time we took the car down to the bare and rebuilt it completely.




From the post information this information is from Richard Parcells.
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« Reply #37 on: April 20, 2014, 05:57:42 PM »

Thanks Jon, Gardena was a hot bed of Hi Performance and racing activity back in the day. My hometown, and where the Jones brothers started  racing Jalopies in the 50's.
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« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2014, 07:11:50 PM »

Jon, thank you for the Carling sponsorship info, glad I wasn't imagining that....
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« Reply #39 on: April 20, 2014, 11:34:18 PM »

You're welcome, Tim.
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