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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 09:33:07 AM »

...Last two pgs...
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« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2012, 09:41:17 AM »

Let me know if you guys think these blk/white charts will work.  One of the problems I see is that not all AIM’s have numbered pages. If this is an issue for some of you, please let me know and I’ll revise it to show UPC’s instead.

I also noticed I doubled up on a PN so I made a temporary fix…
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« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2012, 09:48:22 AM »

Happened across this quite by accident as a friend asked me to phosphate a few screws.
As it turned out they were for the support bars from the fender to the radiator support.
Told me his restored 69 had pointed screws and Brian Henderson told him they should not be pointed.
So he took the ones out from another non-restored 69 he had. I told him I was not aware of this but would check our 69.
Sure enough our 69 has the non-pointed screws as well so I check our 69 AIM vs. our 68 AIM.
69 AIM p146 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out two different screws for that support bar.
Support bar to fender screw #3960314, support bar to rad. support screw #3846202 (hard to read in our AIM).
68 AIM p142 UPC 11-13 B3 calls out screw #9780122 both ends.
Our 69 is a 10D (Oct. 69) but not sure of the build date of my friends donor 69.
The #3846202 in both cases are a non-pointed 5/16-18 X 9/16 lg with 3/4" captured washer.
Please note the two to the left are our 10D screws and my friends all had the same 'D' type mfg. screws.
I assume they made changes from 68 to 69 due to possible wiring in that area of the rad. support.


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« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2012, 10:04:03 AM »

Marty, I like your blk/white chart.
If you used the UPC that would make it easier for 67 & 68 compariason, as well.
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« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2012, 10:08:21 AM »

Have this posted on the 68 fastener page as well as it covers both.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
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« Reply #20 on: February 05, 2012, 10:27:51 AM »

Marty, I like your blk/white chart.
If you used the UPC that would make it easier for 67 & 68 compariason, as well.

Phillip... consider it done. Give me a little time to revise my copies and I'll post them on Chicks thread. I also offered up my makeshift "head-mark" charts for you guys to use as well. Anything I can do to help just let me know.

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« Reply #21 on: February 05, 2012, 10:30:26 AM »

Chick - big time thanks for the fastener heads-up on UPC 11-13/B3!
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« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2012, 11:32:54 AM »

This might work better for some...thanks Phillip!

...(did the same dang thing i did before...#3868790... Angry)
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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2012, 01:43:09 PM »

Have this posted on the 68 fastener page as well as it covers both.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28

Chick - Agreed. This was the most widely used of all 69 fasteners. It can also be found on pgs; 155, 156, 161, 162, 182, 227, 431, 440 & 441.

I'm still trying to make heads or tails of 314 & 202.

314 is aso found on pgs; 140, 145, 147, 148, 149 & 154.

202 can be found in; 65, 145, 146, 149, 156, 457 & 464.
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« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2012, 03:43:42 PM »

Chick - The pic below shows the fastener (PN 3960314) I have on my 12A LA car as shown on pg 140. All 6 are the same. It is also the same fastener called out on pg. 146…rad support to fender. Can you confirm this is the correct one (1/2")?
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« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2012, 05:08:37 PM »

Chick – here's the 202… it can also be found as stated before on pgs; 145, 146, 149, 156, 457 & 464. I checked all of them and their all the same. The two on the pic are from the rad-fender brace and the rear axle brake pipe bracket. Both are pinched points. None are “dog-points”/ blunt points. I wonder if this is another case of plant vs plant and venders vs venders?
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2012, 07:57:41 AM »

Does anyone have pics of these screws & their measurements (4 total)?
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2012, 07:59:10 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2012, 02:52:19 PM »

When I get home tonight, I can take photos of the two cowl vent panel screws above for you.   I checked and cleaned them last night, but didn't photograph them yet.  I'm certain they are original... and they are in good condition with good head marking.  Only issue will be if my camera can extract sufficient detail in the 'closeup' mode..?  Got any tips on making 'close up, in focus' photos??
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2012, 03:31:07 PM »

I wish I had the answer for reducing the number of pics needed to get just one good shot but I don't...sorry. If it helps, the one place that seems to work best for me is in the kitchen. We have a large skylight flanked by two large fluorescent lights (yep that means climbing up on the island as well...sure hope I finish this thing before I end up breaking my neck  Wink). I also set the camera up on a tripod and try to use the same setting and same zoom each time. This works for most of them. Then you have the fasteners with the very fine detail. Just have to play with those until you get what you're looking for. Sometimes a dark closet with the right source of direct light works best. Once it works you stick with it. Hopefully by then you won't go broke buying up batteries... Wink

Thanks again Gary and looking forward to seeing your pics. BTW...what do you think about doing it this way. I don't mind posting up page by page of the AIM. Whatever works.

Marty
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