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« on: February 02, 2012, 09:43:55 PM »

In an effort to determine what would normally be considered the correct fastener for different applications this thread is being developed to coincide with similar threads for 67 (hopefully) and 69 Camaro fasteners.  For a preliminary on how this came about please review the birth in thread http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9074.0 and http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=9130.0
This effort will need the support and creation of sorts of a "team" and I have volunteered to be the team scribe and a team member. This could be huge in benefits for all of us and for years to come. Let the investigation and data collection begin.
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69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 10:01:06 PM »

Identified screw #3846202 5/16-18 X 3/4" lg w/captured washer 3/4" dia.
Did not complete entire AIM search but this screw is found on pages 61, 63, 73, 144, 145
Would love to note what others have found pertaining to their #3846202.
The picture of these two screws came out of our 68 01B NOR built Camaro.

Here is our orig. rear brake bracket where these screws are used.

The good news, AMK sells the same exact screw under G4348 but that is only for two.
Anyone have a AMK catalog to review bulk order AMK part #'s?
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 11:12:51 PM »

Chick,

     B-13317      6Pcs        $5.00          Pg 103
     B-10876    12Pcs      $10.00          Pg 103

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2012, 06:42:13 PM »

Chick, it will be week after next before I can have my AIM, camera and 68 in the same place, so be patient with me. Using Marty's charts I've checked my engine well and most markings are consistent in location and listed on the chart.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2012, 10:05:02 AM »

Thanks Jerry and great Phillip!
Want to finish going through the AIM checking part #'s but here is some new news.
Washer bottle bracket screws #9420415 UPC 1 A4 68 AIM p38 69 AIM p28
Screws are from three different Camaros and each set of 3 have the same mfg. screw.
Left screw from our 01B 68, middle screw from our late 10D 69, and right screw from 69 donor.
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2012, 11:19:14 AM »

Phillip/Chick - Please verify UPC's. Picking at numbers hasn't always been my strong suit...

...like I said...add this one to the list; PN 3868790, UPC-1/A6
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2012, 03:15:15 PM »

Marty,

Not going to be as easy as I hoped. The 68 AIM pages and UPCs don't exactly line up to your research in the 69.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 03:54:52 PM »

Its tough...the only way I could do it was to find a nice quiet corner some place and go pg by pg, PN by PN until It was finally done. It was kinda like having a root canal. Both in agony and relief... Wink
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 04:14:47 PM »

Now I feel your pain!
Are you going to add any more headmarkings  to your chart soon?
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 05:06:38 PM »

Now I feel your pain!
Are you going to add any more headmarkings  to your chart soon?

I'll send you a PM.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2012, 09:22:33 PM »

I have a list of hardware by part#/page but not quite complete. When finished I will add to this thread.
Started going through much of the extra hardware we have from our 68 and other donor Camaro's.
First up, part #9780422. Checked each one for who made and there were only three.
The picture shows 13, 9, & 10 pcs but I found 10 more 9780422 screws and they were a mix 2, 3, & 5 making
the total of the three head markings left to right 15, 12, and 15.
Small sample but statisically very even distribution. Used Marty's sheet to show who made the screws.
Can anyone confirm what supplier markings are on the AMK #9780422 supplied screw?
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2012, 10:25:07 PM »

Gas tank strap screw and bolt.
68 AIM p121 UPC 8 B1
view A screw #9420065
view B bolt # 396712
This notation is just to confirm the aftermarket screw/bolt replacements are not correct.
Original restored screw to the right vs. aftermarket to the left.
Original restored bolts to right vs aftermarket to left. Notice chamfered end of orig. bolt.
I have another set of original gas strap bolts and they have no marking on the head.
Can anyone supply info on what you have found?

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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2012, 10:52:42 PM »

PN#3831892 68 AIM p66 UPC 4 B1
Compared our original 01B 68 to aftermarket screws and they are exactly the same.
Picture of orig. bolts and bagged replacements. Wish they were all that way or easy!

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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2012, 08:30:09 AM »

Chick, any progress on the 68 AIM list?

I've gotten a start on my engine well and found mostly 4, 5, & 7 markings from Marty's list. So far they are pretty consistent per part. For example hood hinge were all 5s. Is that what you are finding?
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« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2012, 02:42:09 PM »

Not completed yet but this is what I'm working on. More involved than first thought Smiley
Yep, agree on the #5 screw head... Make sense Phillip? Questions anyone? Its a start I hope if we can get some others involved!?!?

FIRST GENERATION CAMARO FASTENERS-68/69 AIM Fastener Part #'s  Note: 68 assumed and 69 noted
174916-Toothed Lock Washer w/9420415 screw , 69 AIM pages-28, 155, 156, 161, 182, 439, 440, 441, 460  AMK B-11314.
0187875-P155
0447143- P162 (69 AIM UPC 1 A5) Hex screw 8-18X1/4 .34" O.D. AMK- B-11070 (20pcs)
3758783-P149 Battery hold down clamp bolt- AMK has no reference by GM part#
3824124-P36 Zinc/Wiper Motor 10-24X1.0 .33 external AMK B-12298 (6)
3831892-P178 3/8-16X1 1/8 9/16AF 1.0 Conical "f'" head AMK B-11718 (2)
3839741-P135 & 142 3/8-16X1 3/8  1.31 Conical AMK B-11964 (4) Head Marking circled E?
3846201-Pages 147 & 206 (69 AIM) 5/16-18X5/8 .75 Conical AMK B-12545 (5) Support bar to radiator support. Note: 2 orig. 69's had same bolt in both ends of support bar as AMK
3846202-Pages 61, 63, 73, & 144/5  5/16-18X7/8 .75 Conical AMK 'E', B-13317 (6) & B-10876 (12) & 'C' type B-11709 (6) & B-11710 (12) Note: Both head marks acceptable.
3847757-P141
3847758-P143
3849634-P153
3853846-P155 Zinc/horns- 5/16-18X7/8 .75 toothed  AMK Anchor head-marked screw B-10900 (2)
3856065-P141
3857663-P135 3/8-16X1 3/8 1.0 Conical AMK B-11387 (4
3858195-P186 8-18X3/8 1/4AF .34 O.D. AMK B-12049 (20)
3858700-P229
3873951-P166 10-16X5/8 1/4AF .42 O.D. Top hat style AMK B-11088 (Cool
3873999-P188
3899538- P141 5/16-18X7/8 1.5 Conical AMK B-11600 (2) & B-11601 (6)
3903536-P145
3909140-P179 3/8-16X1 1/8 9/16AF 1.12 Conical AMK B-11719 (2)
3933052-P36 Zinc/Wiper Arm Pivots 10-24X1/2 .33 external AMK B-10884 (4)
3958062/9420825- 5/16-18X9/16 1/2AF .66 O.D. Brake & Fuel Line Clip  AMK-Anchor B-10416 (4)
3963329- 3/8-16X1 1/2 1.12 Conical AMK B-11720 (2)
3986563- 3/8-16X1 1/4 1.31 Conical AMK B-11964 (4)
9409107-P171 1/4-20X5/8 7/16AF .44 split AMK B-12303 (4)
9414252-10-16X5/8 .36 O.D. AMK B-12220 (10)
9414724-P172 8-18X3/4 .27 O.D. Chrome/AMK B-12145 (12) B-11126 (50) Note: Same screw in multiple finishes
9414763-10-16X5/8 .31 OD AMK B11135 (10)
9414764-10-16X3/4 .31 O.D. AMK B-11136 (Cool
9414766-10-16X1.0 .31 O.D. AMK B-12225 (6)
9414767-10-16-X1 1/4 .31 O.D. AMK B-12227 (6)
9415464-P161 8-18X1/2 1/4AF .34 O.D. AMK B-13419 (12) B-13750 (40)
9416822-10-16X1 1/4 .36 O.D. AMK B-12228 (6)
9417318-10-12X1 1/2 .36 O.D. AMK B-12229 (4)
9417706-P186
9418359-P262 8-18-1/2 .31 O.D. AMK B-12153 (15)
9419301-Hood Hinge to Hood but not Hood Hinge to Fender- 3/8-16X13/16 1" Conical AMK B-10835 (4)
9419303-P187
9419329-P167 10-16X5/8 .37 O.D. AMK B-11530 (10)
9419328-P163 10-16X1/2 .37 O.D. AMK B-12192 (10)
9419663-P163 8-18X1/2 1/4AF .34 O.D. AMK B-13419 (12) B-13750 (40) Note: AMK also has Stainless & zinc dichromate Same screw as 9415464 & 9426269
9419778-P229
9420415-69 AIM pages-28, 155, 156, 161, 178, 182, 439, 440, 441, 460  1/4-14X3/8 3/8AF .5 O.D. AMK B-11097 (Cool B-11099 (25) Orig. head markings 'D'
9420431-P156
9420686-P229
9420825/3958062- 5/16-18X9/16 1/2AF .66 O.D. Brake & Fuel Line Clip  AMK-Anchor B-10416 (4)
9420941-Battery Tray- 5/16-18X5/8 1.12 Conical AMKI B-13716 (2)
9421137-P229 8-18x1/2 .31 O.D. AMK B-11144 (10)
9421851-P167 10-16X5/8 .44 Flat Washer AMK B-12231 (6)
9421934-P231
9422455-P230
9423258-P161 10-16x3/4 .31 O.D. AMK B-11137 (10) Note: 9425622 same screw
9423351-10-16X7/8 .31 O.D. AMK B-11138 (Cool
9424858-P188
9425486-P170
9425578-P169
9425622-10-16x3/4 .31 O.D. AMK B-11137 (10) Note: 9423258 same screw
9425812-10-16X1 .36 O.D. AMK B-12226 (4)
4926269- see 9419663- 8-18X1/2 1/4AF .34 O.D. AMK B-13419 (12) B-13750 (40) Note: AMK also has Stainless & zinc dichromate
9426539-10-16X3.0 .31 O.D. AMK B-11139 Note: Used for 67 Camaro vent window
9428499-P229
9431963-Zinc/Ign.Coil Bracket- 5/16-18X5/8 5/8 external AMK 'RBW' B-13232 (4)
9432395-Trunk Latch/striker 1/4-20X5/8 .75 toothed AMK B-10891
9780422-Pages 137, 141-145, 149, 153 5/16-18X3/4 .67OD AMK 'anchor' B-13306 (12) B-13307 (50) Heavy use-fender, header, valance, batt. tray, hood catch, etc..
9824833-Std. Arm-rest Base Screws 1/4-14X1 1/2 .45 OD AMK B-11163 (6)
9919303-P138
Deluxe/Cutom Door Pull Straps 68/69 Camaro 1/4-14X1 7/16 .37 O.D. AMK B-11161 (4)
Tailamp Housing Screw 67/68 Camaro 8-18X1/2 1/4AF .34 O.D.
Seat Back Panel Screws 67-69 Camaro 8-18X3/4 .5 Flat washer AMK B-11222 (4)
GM License Plate Screws- AMK B-11179 (Cool
GM Wheel Opening Trim Screws- 8-18X7/16 AMK B-11532 (10) & B-10064 (32)
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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