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« on: January 28, 2012, 08:32:37 PM »

Hey all. I am trying to track down my old Camaro that I stupidly sold about 8 years ago. I am in Alabama and I sold it to a guy in Wisconsin. After a couple years of looking, I have finally yesterday found the VIN.  I did a search of NMVTIS and it shows the car was titled in Wisconsin in 2003, which matches when/where I sold the car to, so this confirmed I have the correct VIN. It shows now to be titled in South Carolina and title was issued end of July, 2009.  But the site would not give me any identifying information.

1967 Camaro
VIN 124377N195014

It is a 67 Camaro RS/SS
Tahoe Turquoise with white bumblebee stripe
Black Deluxe Interior
L35 396/325 hp
Muncie M20 4 speed
12 bolt posi
Front Disc brakes
Console Gauges
I was the 2nd owner of the car and sold it with about 85k miles
Not original engine, but rest of drivetrain was original.
Not a show car, but VERY nice driver.  Had a couple non-stock touches, but nothing serious -

I decoded the trim tag before I bought it and it was the real deal. Only thing I couldn't confirm from the tag was the console gages.

Anyway, again, any help at all will be greatly appreciated.  I really have a lot of attachment to this car and really want to get it back.  Any of you South Carolina guys (or other nearby states) seen this car around?

Here is a pic of it at a car show a couple years before I sold it.



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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2012, 09:13:22 PM »

Hey Jonathan was this picture taken at Pine Hill Country Club ? Looks awful familiar.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 09:28:15 PM »

Hey Jonathan was this picture taken at Pine Hill Country Club ? Looks awful familiar.

No.  It was at the Delphi Saginaw Plant in Decatur, AL (10 miles east of Huntsville) at the annual car show they used to host.  I think it was actually called "Greater Tennessee Valley Car Show."  This pic was taken in the morning of July 10, 1999, 4 years before I sold it.

Where is Pine Hill Country Club?

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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 09:41:29 PM »

Anniston / Oxford area. We are over on the Georgia border I-20 half way between Atlanta and Birmingham.  Your car and the back ground looks real familiar and they used to have a benefit golf tournament and car show over there.
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2012, 06:06:20 PM »

Anniston / Oxford area. We are over on the Georgia border I-20 half way between Atlanta and Birmingham.  Your car and the back ground looks real familiar and they used to have a benefit golf tournament and car show over there.

OK.  I think I know where you are talking about.  I never took it there for a show when I owned it.  I pretty much only did the big Saginaw show (picture above) and some local cruise ins.  Maybe the current owner has been showing it there.

BTW.  When I go to Atlanta from my house, I go through Gadsden and then Piedmont and pick up I-20 just a couple miles W of the Ga line.  Probably go pretty close to your area.
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2012, 09:25:41 PM »

I actually live in a wide spot in the middle of the road called Heflin. When you leave Piedmont go Hwy. 9 south to 78 then up to Heflin to catch I20.    Sound about right?
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2012, 09:28:16 AM »

I actually live in a wide spot in the middle of the road called Heflin. When you leave Piedmont go Hwy. 9 south to 78 then up to Heflin to catch I20.    Sound about right?

Yep.  Right through/on the edge of the Talladega National Forest.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2012, 09:16:27 AM »

 I have not noticed the car in the upstate. Do you have any police buddies that can run the vin for you???  looks like a nice car.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2012, 02:33:30 PM »

Just curious which provider did you use and does it show a title history?

Approved NMVTIS Data Providers

http://www.vehiclehistory.gov/nmvtis_vehiclehistory.html

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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2012, 02:57:31 PM »

You can look up my threads over at TC about this but here is the digest version:

The old insurance industry database was federalized and sanitized via the privacy act removing all names and addresses. All the approved vendors offering reports are pulling off the same database so the content will be the same, just the output is different.

Some are just raw tele-type looking printouts, others are full of slick graphics and explanations of the different title brands applied to that vehicle. So look at all the vendors sample reports and see what is best your your needs and eyes, then use them for your report. I used the one that offered paypal payments Auto Data Direct.
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« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2012, 09:15:47 AM »

You can look up my threads over at TC about this but here is the digest version:

The old insurance industry database was federalized and sanitized via the privacy act removing all names and addresses. All the approved vendors offering reports are pulling off the same database so the content will be the same, just the output is different.

Some are just raw tele-type looking printouts, others are full of slick graphics and explanations of the different title brands applied to that vehicle. So look at all the vendors sample reports and see what is best your your needs and eyes, then use them for your report. I used the one that offered paypal payments Auto Data Direct.

I used Auto Data Direct off of your suggestion in a thread over on team camaro.  The report would not give me the current owner's info, but did tell me the car is now in South Carolina.  That thread I found over there was very helpful.  thanks 69pace.  The title history, dates and states titled, helped double confirm for me that I did in fact have the correct VIN.  Even though it didn't give me the final answer I need, it got me moving in the right direction for sure. 

So knowing it is in SC helps narrow it down, but I still have a lot more work to get there.
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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2012, 09:17:34 AM »

I have not noticed the car in the upstate. Do you have any police buddies that can run the vin for you???  looks like a nice car.

trying the "police buddy" thing, but no luck yet.  Fingers are still crossed.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2012, 12:56:25 AM »

You are almost there. Now you either get lucky and search State and local county Tax records for the vin or hire a investigator to pound the pavement chasing paper. Also enlist any active Camaro Clubs in that area.

Yes no database version available today is going to give you the names and addresses it has been scrubbed from the government clearinghouse version which is the direct descendant of the original NICB database. The database falls under the Federal Privacy Act.

Most Law Enforcement subscriptions to the system will just confirm it is not stolen or scrapped and provide no history. Most departments privacy and ethics regulation will prevent in-depth running of vins for personal use by any officer in Auto Theft divisions not involved in an active criminal investigation of that vin.

On the bright side NICB has a warehouse full of yellowing documents and microfiche shipping records slowly being entered into the database. These are the records they used to sell direct to the public.  So over a period of time shipping records having been sanitized to government standards removing all identities and addresses may enter the public sector again.  
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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2012, 03:15:36 PM »

OK here's what you do----
1- Go to SCDMVonline.com
2-on the left side of the homepage click on forms and manuals
3-next to last is the TR-3 form

Print that form fill it out as a repair shop and send them $26 and you will have your info in 72hrs good luck
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2012, 08:05:56 AM »

OK here's what you do----
1- Go to SCDMVonline.com
2-on the left side of the homepage click on forms and manuals
3-next to last is the TR-3 form

Print that form fill it out as a repair shop and send them $26 and you will have your info in 72hrs good luck

That's amazing.  I had no idea this could be done.  Thanks for the input.

Guys, I have located the car and the owner.  He was not too receptive to the concept of selling the car, but did tell me he would consider it and get back with me later.  We'll see and fingers crossed.
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