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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2011, 01:34:09 AM »
do we know what the code and part number is for a 4 sp manual camaro L 48 car? a buddy i know wants to know :)

[ thanks for starting the post Les :) ]

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2011, 03:34:56 AM »
According to the GM parts books the manual L48 is 6484583.  As I mentioned earlier I have yet to find this in the AIM or any reference to a 350 4BBL manual transmission air cleaner.  All current reproduction decals with this part number I know of say that it is for a 350/255HP (LM1) engine and has the code CN.  Unfortunately I can't tell you if that is correct. The sequencing lines up well with CO 6484584 for the automatic L48. So I tend to believe the letters go with the part but the description likely should be "69 350 255 or 300HP 4BBL" which per the parts catalogues would line up with the single part number listed for a 69 350 4BBL.
If you look up the decal for a 69 350/300HP many catalogues you will show DC403 or CR 6485887. None of my Camaro parts catalogues list this part number.  6485887 tends to suggest a 1971 part (6485886 is for a 71-72 6 cyl while 6485902 is for a 1971 307). The Golden Eagle Classics catalogue lists CR 6485887 for a 70-71 350/454 4BBL Corvette.   
I've actually got both the CN & CR decals (bought in ignorance assuming one would be correct).  I could mail you the CN if you send me your address in a PM.
if someone has a better answer please butt in. 
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #32 on: November 29, 2011, 04:34:41 AM »
CN is the correct code for a 69 L48 manual car.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #33 on: November 29, 2011, 01:09:28 PM »
The two letters are C O and the part# is 6484584 for L48 auto.

So, is this the sticker we want for the L48 350/300hp auto, or is the jury still out?  And, is anyone selling this C O label printed with the correct hp? Also, I sure like the black C O label posted by Kurt. Do you know which color is correct, white or black?

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #34 on: November 29, 2011, 08:03:57 PM »
There is no CO 6484584 label (white or black) out there that I can find.  We're fully satisfied the code & numbering is correct for the L48 or LM1 (350/4BBL) auto and it is CN 6484583 for a manually equipped L-48 or LM1 inspite of what some of catalogues tell you.

I'm gathering post info & some PMs to see if I can get Jim Osborn to make one. They are a GM approved reproduction company for these decals.

I'm currently waiting upon an owner of a black decal car to provide their build date & factory.  Also waiting for some dimensions off a white one rather than trying to scale off a photo.  Anyone else with an original decal seeing this post please send what you have.  I personally only have my eyes on getting a white one but others have expressed interest in getting a black one on the assumption that the color is build date (vs. factory) related.

A black decal has been found on a January car & white ones built after March.  Those are CO 6484584s.  I've not heard any mention of a black CN 6484583 decal. That's all I know at the moment. 
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2011, 08:00:42 PM »
For those waiting on news the black CO 6484584 decal owner contacted me and said he should be able to get us more info in the next couple of weeks.
Les
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2011, 09:56:47 PM »
I'm supposed to go look at three cars one day next week as soon as it warms up a little. I know for sure one is L48 Auto so maybe I will get something from it.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2011, 11:12:02 PM »
For those waiting on news the black CO 6484584 decal owner contacted me and said he should be able to get us more info in the next couple of weeks.

Guilty as charged. Looking forward to your findings and wether or not it was build-date specific?

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2011, 06:18:33 AM »
It's definitely date specific. That black sticker is the style used in 68. It changed to the white sticker mid-69.
The sticker was on the air cleaner as shipped into the plants, so the timing should be similar for both plants.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2011, 06:09:02 PM »
I am finding this thread very interesting.  I am restoring the original air cleaner on my L48 / THM 350.  All that was left of the original sticker was an outline of where it was on the air cleaner.  Not even a hint of color. Hope this thread can tell me what color an 11D (Nov. 1968) L48 auto RS/SS 350 had from the factory. I now know I need a CO 6484584 sticker, now I just need verification on the color. Thanks for all the information so far.

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2011, 03:13:34 AM »
Boston 14....thats same build date as my RS/SS L 48 auto car. unfortunatly my original air cleaner went into the garbage 30 years ago  :-[   mines a garnet red car with white deluxe hounds tooth interior.
whats your car?  :)

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2011, 03:30:30 AM »
Based on the pictures & build date info we've got to date you're likely looking at a black decal. They appear to have been used for cars up to Jan '69. Starting in March '69 white seems to be the norm.  February is still an unknown. It would be interesting to know whether your outline suggests a black one with slightly tapered corners or white rectangular.   

BTW my car is also garnet red with deluxe white houndstooth & L48 auto.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted UPDATE
« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2012, 05:22:17 PM »
I just confirmed with an owner of a black decal car that the text (except for the part number which is 6484584) and text layout matches that for the '68 295HP 350 (decal DC0719).  The ends are different being tapered as per his & Kurt's photos.  
As far as the white decal is concerned I have to wait a few months until its owner pulls it out of storage in the spring to get some measurements.  I will contact Jim Osborn about adding these.
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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2012, 09:23:15 PM »
I realize this is a ways off but...Once all the info is in for the black CO, and if Jim decides to move forward with production, I would like to see good pics of the finished product. I would also like to see how it matches up against the original...if that's possible.  

Thanks for the update Les...nice work!              

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Re: 69 L48/LM1 Automatic "Keep Your GM Car..." Decal Info Wanted
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2012, 12:30:10 AM »
I've asked the owner of the early '69 black decal car to send me a clearer photo.  That and the car Kurt found on ebay are the only two original ones we have to work with. I'll post an update with photos when the dust settles.
Les
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