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« on: June 13, 2006, 06:53:49 PM »

I have a question about this 67 ss If I was to sink a ton of money into this fully documented car(seen in link below) would I get  2 ton's of money on a resale ? I'd love to have a frame off but I do know this is very costly.My concern would be down the road would I get the return if I ever sold it
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2006, 07:21:02 PM »

Is the car original paint?
If so... what is the overall condition minus the few minor rust holes?
How much has been repainted (if any) under the hood and on the chassis?
Has any of the interior been replaced?
How are the floors?

If the car has original paint and it is not in too bad of shape then personally I would weld in the few patches that would be required and then touch up the car, clean it up thoroughly and drive it.
If it is very original it is worth more unrestored than it is restored IMHO, 

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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2006, 07:27:35 PM »

all original paint engine trans rear end interior car was never mucked with paint condition in as seen in pic's minor rust few ding's and scratches chasis is dirty some surface  rust floors are perfect truck is very good just a little surface rust slight bubbling under vynal top near rear window this car is overall very good shape for a 67.Im thinking of the frame off restore to make it perfect or as close as possible
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2006, 07:43:50 PM »

Clean it up and fix the bad places... a car with patina will draw a crowd every time it goes somewhere... restored cars are everywhere.
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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2006, 09:55:59 AM »

a car can only be original once, it can be restored many times. detail it fix the rust and enjoy it
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« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2006, 06:14:01 PM »

Ok so with todays market what would be a good asking price for this 67ss with all  the documents.unfinished ? vs restored? 38.000 mile's original.I got to believe if done right would sell pretty high but ....I am no expert by no mean's
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« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2006, 12:21:22 AM »

I feel that some of the high dollars being thrown at unrestored cars are because the cars stand on their own. They don't have to rely on anything on a restorer doing something correctly... they are correct.
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James
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Check out the Black 69 RS/Z28 45k mile Survivor and the Lemans Blue 69 Z 10D frame off...
https://picasaweb.google.com/112392262205377424364/1969_Z28_Restoration
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« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2006, 10:49:16 AM »

Not surprised you are having a hard time getting a $$$ answer...
The answer to your real question, "How Much?", is actually very subjective.  It also depends on who wants the car and the size of their wallet.  Then again, there is the question of availability in your area...
If you are not prepared to do a great restoration, these guys are right!  An original car is a wonderful thing to find!  Assuming the car is in great shape, it could bring as much as $23,000 unrestored in my part of the world, which is NC.  A show car (good restoration) could bring $27,000.  Could you bring your car up to show level for $4,000... maybe not....
But again, that's my informed, but subjective, opinion.
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« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2006, 12:30:27 PM »

wow that's pretty cheap here in michigan a half a$$ clone would net 25-30 thousand. Real car's go atleast 35-45 thousand & upward's I've seen many 50- 60 range
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2006, 04:52:18 PM »

See, there you have it...
Camaros are more plentiful in the southeast right now!  Granted, you have to weed your way through a lot of clones...
I saw more Camaros for sale at the Hornets Nest Autofair (Charlotte, Lowes Motor Speedway) in April of this year than I have seen in the last several years. 
On the other hand, I was in Seattle about a year ago.  Went around to five different dealers to have a look.  Camaros were rare!
That also explains why some folks come south (or southwest) to look for a car and trailer (or drive) it back home.  From their "market" it's worth the effort.
Still sounds to me like you're getting good advise.  Clean the car up and get someone in you area to put a value to it.
Good luck!  If a 67SS, fully documented, gets back in circulation, we all "profit" from it!
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2006, 07:06:04 PM »

Home restorations are done for the love of the car, not because it's a profit-making opportunity; the only people who make money on restorations are commercial shops that do it for a living and bill the customer on a time & material basis, or dealers that fake them and take unknowing buyers for a ride on eBay.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2006, 07:48:49 PM »

Noted John.. I have no plan's on selling this car anytime soon,I enjoy the hobby too much.Was just a hypathectical question.By the way John You ever make it to woodward on a friday or saturday night? Love to meet up sometime
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2006, 10:52:41 PM »

Hey Lake--where are you in NC? I'm near Burlington.
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« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2006, 02:28:43 AM »

Hotrod, we're practically neighbors!  I live in Clemmons, but the car is at Lake Norman... which explains why I'm connected to Hornets Nest in Charlotte.
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Phillip
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« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2006, 08:06:29 PM »

Noted John.. I have no plan's on selling this car anytime soon,I enjoy the hobby too much.Was just a hypathectical question.By the way John You ever make it to woodward on a friday or saturday night? Love to meet up sometime

I was born and raised in Birmingham, and spent (or mis-spent) Smiley my youth on Woodward nearly every night from the late 50's through the early 60's; I go back every year for the Woodward Cruise.
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