Thanks for the feedback on these numbers, Kurt. As I ponder this a little, just wondering how many 1969 Z's might be in the database as I'm thinking that somebody (maybe you, but my memory could be faulty) referred to the fact of having info on approx 17,000 cars or more. I know that roughly 20,000 Z's were built for the 1969 model year and curious how many real cars are felt to exist yet. Both of these VIN's are verifiable as I still have engine/trans from the early car and BU rear axle was sold years ago. The late car's numbers all line up with the build tag, hidden locations, and BU rear axle.