Author Topic: L48'S WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE (Read 30313 times)

IZRSSS · « **on:** July 07, 2011, 01:43:44 AM »

It might make things easier on all of us if we knew ahead of time, which members own these cars, so if the need arises, we know who to contact with specific questions.

Like the Subject suggests...ALL L48's (67-69) and...drivetrain or no drivetrain...paint or no paint...tires or no tires...I think you get the picture. The information I would like to have is the following;

a) 2 pics of your choice (if you have trouble posting these PM me & I will be happy to do it for you)
b) Build Date (so it must have a trim tag)
c) VIN#
d) Engine Stamp (if it has one)
e) Exterior Paint Code (again...must have a trim tag)
f) Options

...And please keep discussions to a minimum. If more discussions are necessary please start another thread. This is more about documenting these cars and their owners in one convenient location.

Thanks!

JKZ27 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 07, 2011, 02:21:43 AM »

12B No "X" code
124379N558xxx
T1129HA 388 block
69 B
A67, CO8, C60, D55, G80, MC1, N34, Z22, Z27...and its alive and well!

John Kraus.

L78 steve · « **Reply #2 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:10:00 PM »

I know of one for sale.

crobjones2 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 07, 2011, 01:51:29 PM »

Sleeping... All numbers matching -
Build date 06A(truly built first week) X11
Paint 61-61 Burnished Brown with Black Deluxe interior
Vin 124379N6572XX -Sold in CA
Motor Build T0526HB in a 388 block and 041 heads
Options: AMFM mono radio W/ rear speakers, A/C, Tic-Toc dash, and console gauges (probably others, but I have not been able to verify)

IZRSSS · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2011, 09:02:31 PM »

12A (no "X" code)
124379L512040
T1129HB
- E (80/Parchment V-Top)

A01, A31, A82, B93, C08, C60, D33, D34, D55, D80, J50, N33, N40, N65, N66, U15, U35, U46, U79, V31, V32, Z23, ZJ9, ZK3

69pace · « **Reply #5 on:** July 07, 2011, 11:07:06 PM »

Engine bay needs a little spit and polish and maybe paint.

Date: 03B
VIN: 124679N6161xx
Stamp: can't be read from the ground will revise once it is on a lift and my near sighted eyes can focus on it.

Paint: 50 Top: A
Z11 Pace Car with Muncie 4 Speed

tmodel66 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2011, 02:13:07 AM »

69Pace Is that a hood lock with a internal hood release cable in the bottom pic?

IZRSSS · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2011, 01:08:19 PM »

As usual my fingers get ahead of my brain...how can you not have dialogue while looking at these cars. After all, isn't this topic under, "General Discussion". And what better place to familiarize ourselves with the L48 and ask questions then as these cars are posted? So, feel free to generally discuss...

Please keep the pics and info coming.

route665 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2011, 05:35:26 PM »

VIN 124379N688XXX. X11, 09D, TR- 714 Yellow,PNT 5050 White.TO828HB, Auto, Tilt, am, PD,PS,

69pace · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2011, 05:20:01 AM »

Quote from: tmodel66 on July 08, 2011, 02:13:07 AM

69Pace Is that a hood lock with a internal hood release cable in the bottom pic?

It is a lock and ignition cut off.
Uses a barrel lock key mounted under the dash.
Push it in it kills the ignition and locks the hood.
I used to drive her to work every day in a less then pseudo safe neighborhood.
It was the best solution while I figured out if I was going to install a remote key-less entry and alarm once the restoration was finished.
That was 29 years ago LOL

Boston14 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2011, 10:54:14 AM »

That lock was marketed in the Northeast as a Chapman Lock. I installed many of them at the Chevrolet dealership I worked at. You could buy just the hood lock which consisted of the lock and a built in kill switch, or they had a complete alarm system with motion sensor, voltage drop sensor and siren. I am not sure when they first came out. I remember for sure installing them in the 80's, but don't recall if they were available in the 70's.

JKZ27 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2011, 11:29:38 AM »

Mine still has the lock cylinder on the right front fender, the door jamb switches and the trunk lid switch. The previous owner took the siren off when he sold the car to me.

John.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2011, 11:39:32 AM »

John or Chris,

When I had my breather lid chromed, the company asked if I wanted it chromed on the bottom. I was surprised because I didn't know it was possible to do one side and not the other. Are your lids chromed on both sides? In addition, does anyone know where I can purchase a seal for the lid?

JKZ27 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2011, 12:05:05 PM »

Yeah sort of. Its plated but its not high lustre. I dont know enough about the plating process to know how its done, but I'll say only the top is chrome.

John.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2011, 04:42:10 PM »

Much appreciated John...always wondered about that.

crobjones2 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:30:39 PM »

mine is chromed both sides, and very dirty with fuel residue in the center of the underside

IZRSSS · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2011, 07:44:31 PM »

I was hoping one of you would say that. I figured since I sent it off clear to El Paso I may as well have both sides done. Sounds like either way works.

Thanks Chris

JKZ27 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 10, 2011, 12:23:24 PM »

Anyone know if their L48 block is 2 bolt or a 4 bolt main?

I don't know yet if mine is, but the 69 "HN" block that I have is a 2 bolt. That was a 350/300 4bbl with 041 heads and a 388 block.

John

crobjones2 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:50:02 PM »

John
My HB 388 block 041 heads is a 4 bolt

IZRSSS · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2011, 02:57:31 PM »

Even though no metion is made with respect to the 388 there is some good reading here. With regards to 2 & 4 bolt mains, only the LM1 (which replaced the L30) & L48 are referenced, stating that the LM1 was a 2 bolt main, & the L48 was a 4 bolt main with few exceptions.

Read " LM1's vs L48's " (the entire article is great).

Just like you I would like to know if there is a production ratio with regards to 2 vs 4 bolt L48's.

I have the 4 bolt main.

http://www.camaros.org/lm1.shtml

rs1967ss · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2011, 05:27:03 PM »

Sorry I'm new and can't figure out how to post pics lol! I can send u some tho. VIN 124377L142305 F-2 Marina/black 797 deluxe parchment, factory a/c (gone) console (gone) all tinted glass, 3L (rs) 4P (ss350) 5Y (dlx belts). Build date 2B
-Kelvin Scott (Muskogee, OK)

IZRSSS · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:18:26 PM »

Kelvin,

Thanks for the data on your car and for participating in this thread. Trust me when I say you are not the first person to struggle with posting pics on this site, nor will you be the last. Once you get the hang of it...it's a piece of cake. Here is a link that I think will help. In the mean time you can send the pics to my email address and I will be happy to post them for you. They will not be the best quality since I will need to take a pic of a pic and then re-size it. If you agree please send them to my email address. You can find it in your Personal Messages (PM).

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7215.0

Marty

rs1967ss · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2011, 06:26:10 PM »

Will do. I warn ya, its ROUGH. But thanks for posting this, its always good to know owners and restorers of the great SS350.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2011, 07:03:08 PM »

Here you go Kelvin. I tried to work on the resolution the best I could. Great to see you young bucks bringing these cars back to life! Sweet looking ride!

rs1967ss · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2011, 08:31:22 PM »

Hey thanx Marty! She was a mess when I got her, AND STILL IS. But someday....

vincevs · « **Reply #25 on:** August 01, 2011, 04:42:51 PM »

IZRSSS,
As requested, here are some details about my car and a photo from before I cleaned up the engine bay... I have lots of photos and paperwork if you need anything else. It still has the original windshield and vert top. Too bad for the 80's paint job.

The options and details are in my signature link and CRG has photos of all the stamps in the database.

BowtieSweden · « **Reply #26 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:20:50 PM »

Hi

I live in Sweden, I have an L48.
Are you interested in that one too?

//GUS

IZRSSS · « **Reply #27 on:** August 01, 2011, 08:54:24 PM »

Absolutely...please read my first post so we have some sort of consistency when posting these cars (minus keep discussions to a minimum...the more the merrier).

Thanks GUS

1967heaven · « **Reply #28 on:** August 03, 2011, 05:35:22 AM »

just found this one hiding in a garage for the last 24 years 32,843 on the odometer backed up by the last registration showing 31,201 in april of 84
complete NOS origanal GM front clip fenders grille inner wheel wells core support everything still has GM tags on it and are brand new (in 1986)

124377L135720

OPTIONS

1 = Chevrolet
2 = Camaro
4 = 8-cylinder engine
37 = coupe body
7 = 1967 model year
L = Los Angeles, CA assembly plant (Van Nuys)
135720 = vehicle serial number sequence

Decode for body number: 018839

01C = Built the Third week of January.
67-12437 = Standard Interior Coupe.
LOS = Built in Van Nuys California.
760 = Standard Black Bucket Seats.
Z = (A50) Strato Bucket Seats (without headrests).
C-C = Car Color is Ermine White
N588 = internal plant scheduling code.
Options:
1E = (A01) Tinted All Glass
2L = (M20) 4-speed floor shifter
2G = (D55) Console front compartment
3S = (Z23) Interior Decor group
3L = (Z22) Rally Sport Package
4P = (L48) SS 350 or (L30) 327-275H

1967heaven · « **Reply #29 on:** August 03, 2011, 05:42:42 AM »

oh yea heres the cowl tag

BowtieSweden · « **Reply #30 on:** August 07, 2011, 01:34:02 PM »

Hi,

This is what I know about my car:
Arrived to Sweden 1976.
Has stood still in my garage since 2005.
Dusk Blue with Dark Blue Standard interior.
Manual transmission, 12bolt posi.

ST69 12467 NOR320547
TR 715 51A
05A X55

VIN: 124679N642402
Engine: 3932388 L14 8, T0506HA.

The plans now are to convert it to a BigBlock, has a 427 that I like to try.
Saves all that belongs to the car, in case I change my mind.

//GUS

click · « **Reply #31 on:** August 07, 2011, 02:24:46 PM »

IZRSSS Marty, just to clarify... the CRG report on 69 LM1 engines does say "LM1's have been found with both 2-bolt and 4-bolt blocks, though it appears that most were 2-bolt blocks" I have one of the 4 bolt LM1's myself, its also a 3932388 block and my heads are 3932441 J-11-8 and J-15-8 , mine also has disc brakes, they are an interesting combo

IZRSSS · « **Reply #32 on:** August 08, 2011, 12:38:42 PM »

Jim - As you've stated, both the 4 bolt main and disc brakes are unusual for the LM1 (per CRG report). 4 bolt because most were 2, and disc brakes because only the SS had these as standard equipment, not the LM1. I'd have to say its more of a great combo than an interesting combo. Thanks for sharing.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #33 on:** November 29, 2011, 11:54:31 PM »

Les has started a thread that I think a lot of us can benefit from. He is trying to find the correct air cleaner labels for both the '69 L48 & LM1, auto and manual transmissions. So far he has narrowed it down to two. Please take a look at reply #34 and if there is any way you can contribute please do... http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8847.30

And...where are the rest of those L48's hidding

I know there are some real gems out there but remember...they don't have to be cream puff's.

lasereye · « **Reply #34 on:** December 04, 2011, 06:27:51 PM »

12437N648878
Z-27,U-57
Wiped some dust off for pic. (just a little)
T0512HB 010

69z28302 · « **Reply #35 on:** December 04, 2011, 11:55:34 PM »

Quote from: crobjones2 on July 07, 2011, 01:51:29 PM

Sleeping... All numbers matching -
Build date 06A(truly built first week) X11
Paint 61-61 Burnished Brown with Black Deluxe interior
Vin 124379N6572XX -Sold in CA
Motor Build T0526HB in a 388 block and 041 heads
Options: AMFM mono radio W/ rear speakers, A/C, Tic-Toc dash, and console gauges (probably others, but I have not been able to verify)

I have never seen a BB 61 SS car before.

Kooll

Mike

IZRSSS · « **Reply #36 on:** December 05, 2011, 02:16:53 PM »

lasereye - Great car and pics! Thanks for sharing.

I also noticed that you exercise and play golf a lot like me...once every couple years

Thanks to all of you who have contributed & Keep'em com-in!

...& GUS, thanks for perking up my day

IZRSSS · « **Reply #37 on:** December 05, 2011, 07:34:04 PM »

Quote from: route665 on July 08, 2011, 05:35:26 PM

VIN 124379N688XXX. X11, 09D, TR- 714 Yellow,PNT 5050 White.TO828HB, Auto, Tilt, am, PD,PS,

route665 - I don't think I've ever seen an all white L48. Nice car! I also noticed you have the SS wheels. One, are they original, and two if they are, can you please post pics of the stamp? While I'm ad it...do you have any pics of your original D90 stripe? If so, I'd sure like to see them.

Thanks

lasereye · « **Reply #38 on:** December 06, 2011, 02:19:02 AM »

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While I'm ad it...do you have any pics of your original D90 stripe? If so, I'd sure like to see them.

Thanks
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That is also original paint with the D-90.......saw the other thread on measurements...if you want it I can get it. I can see where they meet....damn near perfect.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #39 on:** December 06, 2011, 02:35:52 AM »

An original 05D D90, you bet, that would be great...thanks!

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8820.0

1967RS/SS · « **Reply #40 on:** December 06, 2011, 05:44:43 AM »

Drive it regularly. Just had the rear spoiler removed but havent updated pictures yet.

01C
124377L134908
V011MV
01C = 3rd week of January
L498 = Internal plant code for dating
ST 67 = 1967 Model year
12637 = Sport coupe, Custom interior
LOS = Van Nuys, California
14116 Body = Body unit number (Fisher Body)
TR 165 – Z = A50 Black custom strato-bucket seats
YY Paint = Butternut yellow
E = all factory tinted windows
2MGS = Power Glide transmission/ D55 Center console/ U73 Rear antenna
3SL = RPO Z23 (Special Interior Group) option / RPO Z22 (Rally Sport Option)
4FP = D33 Remote Mirror / Super Sport 350 L48 code
5Y = A38 Deluxe Seat Belts

IZRSSS · « **Reply #41 on:** December 07, 2011, 01:40:36 AM »

I remember your car from last month's cover page. Love the '67 RS/SS!

If you have a chance, can you post close up pics of your remote mirror, including inside lever? BTW, Nice options!

Thanks

1967RS/SS · « **Reply #42 on:** December 07, 2011, 03:32:54 AM »

Quote from: IZRSSS on December 07, 2011, 01:40:36 AM

I remember your car from last month's cover page. Love the '67 RS/SS!

If you have a chance, can you post close up pics of your remote mirror, including inside lever? BTW, Nice options!

Thanks

Thanks! Here are some pics of the mirror. Hope they help...

IZRSSS · « **Reply #43 on:** December 07, 2011, 02:51:51 PM »

I enjoy seeing how the different parts evolve. Does your mirror's housing have a drain hole?

Thanks again for the pics.

Here's the one for '69...

IZRSSS · « **Reply #44 on:** December 07, 2011, 02:52:35 PM »

...and the lever...

RGwiz · « **Reply #45 on:** December 08, 2011, 01:13:00 AM »

Here is a partial email I sent to Kurt a few months ago. It's my 68 rs/SS 350 4spd. Original trans was blown so no number. It now has an AutoGear M-21 replacement trans. Car is now black no stripes w/black interior. Besides the fresh paint only the seats and door panels are new replacements. The original rebuilt 350 has Offy/2-jet tri power and Mallory ignition and chambered exhaust. I also sent Kurt and Ed pics of the car.
Thanks for all you do. Ray

Cowl tag: 01A
ST 68 12437 NOR 69766 BODY
TR 712 VV PAINT
VIN: 124378N369538
Firewall stamping on passenger side under cowl: 8N369538
Engine stamping: 18N369538 VI 226 MS
Engine cast date L 77
# stamp on heads: 3917291 L 187 13
Rear end stamp: BS 1220 G2
E
Car has the Z 23 interior option with N 30 steering wheel. The ash tray is black.
I have no documents for the car. If anyone knows any history of this car, I'd like to talk to you.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #46 on:** December 08, 2011, 02:47:42 AM »

Quote from: RGwiz on December 08, 2011, 01:13:00 AM

I have no documents for the car. If anyone knows any history of this car, I'd like to talk to you.

If anyone can lend a hand please do. Thanks for the Pics Ray. Sweet looking '68 RS/SS L48!!!

IZRSSS · « **Reply #47 on:** December 08, 2011, 02:49:23 AM »

...Ray's '68 RS/SS Trim Tag and VIN...

RGwiz · « **Reply #48 on:** December 08, 2011, 11:55:05 AM »

Thank you Marty for the posting. The 1st pic was taken by the guy selling the car and the others by me. I was told that the original owner took the car off the road and used it as a weekend drag racer back in the late 70's - 80's. He raced mostly in central Jersey (Engishtown Raceway Park) and Atco in south Jersey. Since the interior seats were remove back then the build sheet was pobably ruined or lost. It still has the original carpet and front seat belts. Oh yeah, and what is left of the welded on tow bar plates under the front frame. I believe the console and gauge package w/327 tach was added by the seller and is not original. Anyone have an opinion on the chambered exhaust? It sounds like the side exhaust on a SB Vette. I'm thinking that I would rather have the lower tone stainless system with headers. What do you think? I have done the all original thing for a long time with many shows cars my Dad and I built and collected through the years. I'm in my early 60's now and wanted a car that I can criuse with. This is it! Ray.

IZRSSS · « **Reply #49 on:** December 08, 2011, 01:28:18 PM »

Maybe a long shot, but why not research Englishtown Raceway Park's or Atco's archives to see who else was racing during that time period, or maybe names of people who worked the track. Maybe you can run those guys down to see if they remember your car.

I am not at all familiar with ERP but when you do a search, tons of links pop up. In fact, I think Jerry M. is very familiar with that track. Old Reliable raced there as well. Maybe he can find you the right contacts.

Its a big order and I feel your frustration. I've been searching for the original owner of my car since August of 07.

1967RS/SS · « **Reply #50 on:** December 08, 2011, 11:50:33 PM »

Quote from: IZRSSS on December 07, 2011, 02:51:51 PM

I enjoy seeing how the different parts evolve. Does your mirror's housing have a drain hole?

Yep, the drain hole is there.

Beautiful car by the way IZRSSS! Love the color...

IZRSSS · « **Reply #51 on:** January 13, 2012, 04:04:08 PM »

I think all of us who own a L48 are lucky to have access to this great car. I know a lot of you guys are currently restoring yours so maybe these shots will come in handy. Hats off to you Steve and thanks for sharing! BTW, I tried posting up a body shot of your car but none of my copies do it justice. Do you mind...

All of the following pics, are pics of pics so I hope they come out okay. Haven't quite figured out how to gang post original photo's yet.

First pic...The cars history...

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IZRSSS · « **Reply #57 on:** January 13, 2012, 11:15:51 PM »

I'm including this discussion on "Kickdown Cable" and "Spark Plug Wire Towers". If any of you can shed light on either topic please do. However, I am mainly concerned about the Towers. It looks like there could have been two different types used. If anyone has the original towers that came with their car please post pics. Also indicate the build date of your car & L.A. / Norwood built.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8957.0

Thanx

mossyoak1964 · « **Reply #58 on:** April 16, 2012, 11:51:01 PM »

10D
67-12637 LOS 4347
797-Z F-F
W SLGSR 3SDK
4P 5Y
124377L112XXX

With Protect-O-Plate

mossyoak1964 · « **Reply #59 on:** April 17, 2012, 10:49:50 PM »

3.55:1 12 bolt no radius rod no posi PL0919G
Engine V1025MT
Trans P7r04
U63/U80 Rear Antenna/Rear Speaker
Z23/Z21
B93 Door Edge Guards
U15 Speed Warning

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