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« on: June 27, 2011, 09:49:48 AM »

AIM 12-A5 shows the correct installation for SB 350/V8 Light Harness. The harness attaches via harness built-in clips at both the Fender Flange & Generator Brace. Both of the harness clips in my car have been snipped off. Can someone recommend the best source for these L-harness's, or are these clips sold separately?

In addition...if someone can post a pic of a correctly installed light harness for this application I would really appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2011, 11:46:47 AM »

...Here is a pic of whats left of the generator brace L-Harness clip... its made of metal. All the built-in clips sold by drug store vendors are plastic. Is it possible this metal stem was fitted w/a plastic clip?
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 11:09:34 PM »

Have  you checked with American Auto Wire, lectriclimited.com, or Mad Electrical?  They might be able to supply some.  Otherwise, I find that the Corvette parts vendors have a better/more correct supply of the smaller components when the Camaro guys don't...
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2011, 08:20:00 AM »

Thanx for the names...I'll give them a call latter today to see what options are available. My hope is that the clips are sold separately so I don't have to purchase the entire harness...around $160.00. If not...may as well do it right... Undecided
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2011, 11:33:29 AM »

My original harness had a strip of plastic with the clips stapled to it in the needed spots.  I've seen the individual clips at the vendors sites, but they didn't look like the rest of mine.  They all had the extension on them like the middle for the light harness under the rad support.
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2011, 06:59:12 PM »

Thanx guys... I got so busy with work today that I couldn't make any calls.

By any chance do you have any pics of the original harness w/clips. I made a call yesterday to a company by the name of Lectric Limited. The tech I spoke to swears their harness's are blue print correct & their is no metal of any kind on the clips. Anyway, you know how it is...get as much information on a topic as you can and begin the process of elimination & hopefully you make the right call.

I tried zooming in on Steve's L48 and the clip on the fender flange appears to be metal (maybe black plastic), and the clip on the alternator brace appears to be plastic (white). Who knows...I am just going to have to be patient with this because I don't want to dish out big bucks (for me) for the wrong harness simply because a vendor says his is dead nuts correct.

I hate to throw a wrench in this...but were all three years the same?

Thanx again...
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2011, 07:25:42 PM »

I was going to say Lectric Limited also.

http://www.lectriclimited.com/

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2011, 07:51:06 PM »

There was no metal anywhere in my harness except for the staples holding the clips to the strip.
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2011, 08:09:08 PM »

There was no metal anywhere in my harness except for the staples holding the clips to the strip.

This is correct for 69 also.
I striped out the plastic strip with clips from an old Nova harness. Same.
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2011, 08:18:37 PM »

Thanx for mentioning Lectric. This company looks promising. Also looking more and more like the process of elimination should begin w/my own harness. Should have known...probably a repop or something from another car.

Appreciate the info...
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« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 03:02:28 PM »

A buddy of mine had these clips in his collection. I am not really sure what the first one is but the middle & bottom are definitely for the harness. You can tell by the slit on both of these which anchors the clip to the harness. If anyone knows what the first one is please let me know.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 04:19:43 PM »

My original harness had a strip of plastic with the clips stapled to it in the needed spots.  I've seen the individual clips at the vendors sites, but they didn't look like the rest of mine.  They all had the extension on them like the middle for the light harness under the rad support.

I removed the clips and I think they are the same ones you mentioned above. For some reason I assumed they were metal...
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 07:17:59 PM »

See, someone cut your plastic strip out.  The top one in the pics is stapled to the strip that has been cut.  This was continuous in mine the whole length of the harness.  The top clip in IZRS's pic looks like the alt clip.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 12:21:51 PM »

Good to have these details behind me. Thanks for the help!
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2011, 05:47:51 PM »

Try OPG www.opgi.com for the white color wire harness retainer clips. I just ordered 2 to check them out..........
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2011, 06:04:47 PM »

Thanx for the tip. Please post pics once you receive them. Are these the ones?

http://www.opgi.com/p/wiring-harnesses/23912/34/C241060.html
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2011, 06:49:18 PM »

Marty
That's a roger. I will advise when received. I have not had much luck posting pictures no matter how small I try to make them.
I am a much better model builder and Camaro restorer/driver than computer guy
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2011, 10:32:13 PM »

I didn't get a chance to look through it all.  Do they have the black ones?
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2011, 10:40:57 PM »

Checked both 67-69 Chevelle & El Camino and there all the same exact clip.
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« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2011, 12:49:21 AM »

You can get black ones from Camaro Central #WIR-344, $2.95 or Try Ecklers (Ricks 1st Gen) Or OPG where I got white ones today
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« Reply #20 on: August 30, 2011, 07:26:14 AM »

Here is a link to a restoration thread I have on team camaro that shows the orig. front harness clips vs. the repro along with the alt. boot.
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584&page=23
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2011, 08:05:04 AM »

Chick - I checked out your link. I think you mention one of the original clips is black & one is white. Or two are white and one is black. Can you please clarify? And...which one goes where (fender/alternator bracket).

Thanx

BTW, your seats look terrific!
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« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2011, 08:14:41 PM »

Chick - I checked out your link. I think you mention one of the original clips is black & one is white. Or two are white and one is black. Can you please clarify? And...which one goes where (fender/alternator bracket).

Thanx

BTW, your seats look terrific!

Marty, on our orig. 68 front engine harness all the push in plugs were black vs. the similar plug (shape the same) on our American Autowire harness that were white. The only white push in on our original was the one at the alternator shown in the attached picture. I took the orig. one off our harness and laid it on top of the new harness so we could see the differences. Will post later a more detailed picture of the push in type black plugs as they are stapled to a plastic strip the length of the taped harness. Did not know until I started unwrap the original.

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69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
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« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2011, 08:51:13 PM »

Here you go Marty! I thought before starting to unwrap the tape off the orig. harness the plastic black plug maybe had an inch or so on both sides of the plug that the tape held in place by but was surprised to see it's actually stapled to a length of plastic strip that seems to go the length of the taping. The attached pics show some of the length of the strap and how the plug is attached on the back side. On another note I have pictures of the sockets changed out to assist with making the new harness more accurate like the headlight sockets and the rear taillight sockets. I'm also trying to find the plastic sleeve that surrounded the harness in the trunk area. Mine has dried out and cracked in too many places. More pics in the link you reviewed. And thanks for the kind words on the Al Knoch interior restoration. I like it Grin



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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2011, 09:17:10 PM »

Chick - great pics and thanks for explaining the differences between the two. This is the second time mention has been made referencing the plastic strip. It almost seems like an after thought. I say this because of the wire slots/holes in the clips followed by the addition of a stapled strip rendering the slots useless. It would be interesting to know what the thought process was for this strip...added protection for a wire? Strengthening the anchor point, or what? Sorry, just thinking out loud.  Undecided

Thanx again
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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2011, 09:48:11 PM »

I'm assuming it was they could use different length of strips for a multitude of harnesses and then staple the push in where needed. Two part numbers (bill of material) that could be made for again any harness, hence the flexibility for mfg.
The only reason logical for the length of that strip was to give the harness strength but again it's just an assumption. Yea, I know what it means when we assume Grin
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68 Z/28 NOR 01B Orig motor/trans/rear
69 Z/28 NOR 07A Orig Block & GM Cross-ram/carbs
69 L34 Rest. Nova Father/Son Car
69 L78 Surv Nova Purch 4/69 31K miles
67 L89 Corv Tribute
68 Corv 427/400 Orig motor
07 Corv Z06
R 68Z build- http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=182584
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