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« on: May 15, 2011, 06:59:56 AM »

I saved these photos from an Ebay auction for an old racer, the auction was a few years back, if this should be somewhere else please move or delete.







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« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2011, 10:43:02 PM »

James... Really great of you to post that here. Thanks a lot. Any idea who the seller was, how much it may have sold for, what year the auction was, etc?
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« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2011, 08:37:13 AM »

Jon... The whole car (1968) was on ebay at least (2 years ago but no more than 5 years ago) painted the same color, it was in a self storage unit in Southern Cali. It had flares and rear spoiler with the notches for deck lid pins. Had straps over the rear glass positive but not sure about the front. Wide AL wheels and racing slicks which may have been blue streaks, had been in the same storage unit since the 80's.
For some reason I want to say that the Hood was not included in the sale, it was a separate auction which ran concurrent.
I'm pretty sure this sale/car was discussed on the Yenko.net board at the time. 
 
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« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2011, 02:58:43 PM »

Thanks for that info, James. It doesn't ring a bell to me. I guess I must have missed it when it came through at auction. Did you (or anybody else reading this) happen to save any photos of the car?
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2011, 09:30:00 AM »

Many thanks to Frank DiHartce for sending me these photos of his original GM fiberglass hood to post here on our
Camaro Trans-Am forum. This is an authentic hood from the late '60s, not anything reproduced years or decades later.












All 6 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2011, 10:02:10 AM »

More underneath detail shots of Frank DiHartce's fiberglass GM hood.


























All 13 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2011, 10:50:03 AM »

Jon - I may have photos of the car somewhere... I have close to 50 CD's LOADED with photos I am currently going through... have only scratched the surface...

NICE Hood photos from Mr DiHartce, the two appear to be similar if not identical from first glance.
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2011, 12:34:49 PM »

Thanks James, I do appreciate you looking. Would love to see photos of the car if you are able to find them.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2011, 12:44:10 PM »

More terrific photos courtesy of Frank DiHartce. When the 1970 Trans-Am racing season came around, the
2x4 crossram manifold was no longer legal. Racers had to run a single 4-barrel carburetor. Chevy accordingly
created a 1x4 carb adapter so the same fiberglass hood could be kept and used.








All 4 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2011, 01:00:15 PM »

These photos, also from Frank, show the 1x4 aircleaner for use with this special racing hood. Note that
there's no snorkel like you would see with a standard production Z/28 equipped with a cowl induction
(on Camaro it was technically called a "super scoop") hood. Note also the original hareware to secure
the hood, the prop rod and the lighter-duty hood springs. Some rare-as-hens-teeth stuff here.











This is the original Hood Installation Instructions decal which had been glued by GM to Frank's hood.

All 6 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2011, 06:32:40 PM »

While not Trans-Am related, Frank also sent pictures of his NOS big block Chevy single 4-barrel
air cleaner base meant for use with the fiberglass hood. Also shown is the adapter plate which
gets mounted to the hood when running a big block. Frank mentions that he suspects this
base may be the one that Jim Hall and Smokey Yunick may have used on their '70 Camaros.










All 5 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2011, 06:40:09 PM »

These photos show a side-by-side comparison of the 1x4 adapter plates for the small block (left) vs the big block (right).












All 6 photos above courtesy of Frank DiHartce
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 07:26:31 PM »

Were these hoods any lighter then the steel ones?  Also, the steel hoods could be acid dipped.
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 02:46:23 PM »

The fiberglass hood would have to be lighter or there would have been no reason to have one. What the weight difference is, I have no idea but I'll ask and see if it can be found out. I think that by acid dipping the hood you would still not get to the weight of the fiberglass version.
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« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 03:02:29 PM »

Jon,

When I crewed for JT, we purchased one of the factory steel cowl hoods, & it was fairly light.  To the point that we never bolted it on, it was lift off.  Later when I had the Traver/Rettig A Sedan, it had an aftermarket fiberglass cowl induction hood.  I was surprised that, to me, there seemed to be very little difference in the weight feel. 

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