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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #45 on: January 20, 2012, 05:10:06 PM »
Those were self-tapping sheet metal screws (like those used for gas and brake line clamps), not machine-thread screws; the holes in the subframe were just drilled, not tapped.
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2012, 11:02:00 PM »
This is confusing because the brake line clamp screws are a machined thread with a thread cutting flute.
Gas tank strap screws are a sheetmetal tapping thread with a point. The two are quite different.  :)

Brake line screw 3958062 / B-10412 http://www.amkproducts.com/bulk3.asp?part=B%2D10415

This is the kind of screw I expected to see used here but, without the hex-flange because a separate washer is used. No where on these cars have I seen a hex-flange with a washer. Only hex with washer or hex-washer.

Gas tank strap screw 9420065 / B-12108 http://www.amkproducts.com/bulk3.asp?part=B%2D12108
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2012, 10:08:38 AM »
Sorry, I thought gas tank straps for some reason.. Forget that last B-12108 example..

Still, the threads on those fuel and brake clips were machined threads with the tapping flute and not regular self-tapping type.  :)
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2012, 03:29:34 AM »
Steve & Mark X22, I finally found the missing Air shield screw I was looking for. I thru it in with my front end sheet metal bolts. Any way I am sure this is it because when I took it out I remembered it was ground on one side like it hit the pavement or something. I am now questioning if the other holes I measured as .250" were filled in slightly from powder coating. I hate to put a 5/16" tap into it and open it up more but I have to find out what size bolt goes in there.I will let you know.
George

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2012, 10:47:41 AM »
5/16-18 tap size is .257

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #50 on: February 04, 2012, 06:34:07 PM »
Has the correct size screw configuration been determined?
There is something wrong with the 69 AIM C60 B4 UPC.
From an assembly standpoint I can not imagine a line worker having to stack 9 washers on screws and installing them while holding up the shield. It would be more efficient to have a washer and screw asm.
The screw hole piercings of .277/.281 would only work for a self tapping 5/16-24 or 32 if I am correct.
The only screw I think would work using the bolt and washer assumption is an over sized self tapping screw ( hex head wo/ washer) used on the front sway bar. Rick's shows them  as SS-415 and are used when the screw holes are stripped. Bob

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2012, 04:29:39 PM »
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220947515192&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MOTORS:1123
Here is an early LA built car that I noticed the holes for the shield on the underbody pics. Looks like 09B

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2012, 05:21:27 PM »
Hijack:  for all their 'knowledge' the Hendrick group advertised it as a September 69 build! Love to see the protect-0-plate ;)
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2012, 11:43:54 PM »
Mark,Steve & Big Iron, I pulled out the subframe, check the bolt holes for air shield they are all 5/16" X 18 in the sub frame & cross member.
Cleaned out the power coating with the tap I guess.
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2012, 05:33:53 AM »
George,
Do the 5/16-18 bolts fit tight in the holes? If the holes where drilled to .277/.281 as indicated I would think the bolts would be loose.
What do the holes measure now?
Bob

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2012, 12:28:41 PM »
5/16-18 thread (0.3125") will tap into a ~0.280" no problem.  :)
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam (69 BB w/ AC)
« Reply #56 on: February 12, 2012, 10:09:33 PM »
I was going threw some boxes today and came across the bag with my original AC shield bolts, cleaned them up & they are the same as my fuel line clip bolts #3958062.
These are the ones I took out because I bagged them. Wish I did that with all the bolts. Also they thread into the holes good not loose.
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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam (69 BB w/ AC)
« Reply #57 on: February 12, 2012, 10:23:55 PM »
Can you take a picture of the end ?

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam (69 BB w/ AC)
« Reply #58 on: February 12, 2012, 11:42:25 PM »
Mark, Here you go. Sorry for the wrong picture 10 posts back. George

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Re: How to repair plastic/vinyl air dam (69 BB w/ AC)
« Reply #59 on: February 12, 2012, 11:48:53 PM »
Thanks .