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« on: March 01, 2011, 06:12:36 PM »

Please post only vintage photos from the original era '66-'72. Modern day photos of Historic Trans-Am photos
can be posted in a separate thread or viewed on the Historic Trans-Am website ( www.historictransam.com ).



Mark Donohue's Penske prepared Camaro, Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am, March 1967

Photo by Craig Fisher
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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2011, 06:18:33 PM »


Johnny Moore's Camaro leads the Mustang of Sam Posey during the '68 Daytona 24-Hour race. Moore's Camaro was the first Z-28 sold to the public.

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 06:22:36 PM »

Charlie Kolb #22 Camaro, 1967 Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am tech inspection (downtown Sebring).
I believe the car owner was Porsche racer Fred Baker, from Miami, Fla.

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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 08:07:22 PM »

Bobby Johns driving the #54 Camaro at the Paul Revere 250 night race, 7/4/67. Note Hurst sponsorship. This is the
same car as seen in the previous picture. Car sponsor was Norman Johnson, owner of Miami Speedway Park.

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 11:03:37 PM »

Craig Fisher's Z-28 at '67 Sebring tech inspection. This car is a true Z-28 which was repainted
with gold accents by Gorries Chevrolet in Toronto, Canada. Gorries called these cars Black Panthers.
Craig earned the first points for Chevrolet in the Trans-Am by virtue of his second place finish
at the Daytona 300 Trans-Am, Feb 3rd, 1967. Craig also earned the first points for Pontiac in
Trans-Am when he switched to a Firebird in the middle of the '68 racing season. Great driver,
very underrated.


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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2011, 11:18:59 PM »

Dick Guldstrand in the Dana Chevrolet sponsored Camaro, 1967 Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am.
Dick co-drove with Bob Bondurant in this event.


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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2011, 04:24:38 PM »

Photo taken on the streets of London, April 1967. This is the "sister car" to the Dana Camaro
driven by Dick Guldstrand. It was built at the same time by Bobby Joe McDonald at Dana Chevrolet
and it was driven by car owner and driver Thomas F. Lynch. It ran as car #28 at Sebring and then
left immediately afterward to race in England and Europe over the summer and then returned
Stateside to race in the Las Vegas 350 Trans-Am in the fall of '67. Raced by Tom in Trans-Am thru 1969.


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« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2011, 04:35:04 PM »

Bob Brown in the maroon #5 Camaro and Craig Fisher in the #3. On the grid for the
start of the '67 Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am race. Brown's car was built with the help
of "Murph" Mayberry, same guy who built Mark Donohue's first Z-28. Fisher's car was
built by the legendary Doug Duncan, who resides in the Canadian Motorsports Hall
of Fame. By the way, Craig Fisher is in CMHOF also, both deservedly so.


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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2011, 07:40:45 AM »

thanks for starting this section. There is some great history on the early Trans Am Camaros.
here is a picture of a 67 Z/28 that Yenko Chevrolet had
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« Reply #9 on: March 05, 2011, 01:46:57 AM »

Joe, thanks for posting the picture. Of note about that particular car, it was not a real Z-28 but was a 6-cylinder car that Don Yenko bought
at a dealer auction. Jerry Thompson and his partners at RST Engineering in Clawson, MI prepared that car for Don to race. It was not race
prepared by Yenko. This was told to me personally by Jerry Thompson himself. You will notice that it is a Marina blue car but has black stripes.
The black stripes were not available with Marina blue unless you got a black vinyl top. You can see that the stripes on the back of Yenko's car
go pretty much right up to the bottom of the rear window. If you look at the Johnny Moore car below (photo taken at the '67 Sebring Trans-Am)
you see original Z stripes didn't go that far up. Might have been an opening for debate there had I not spoken with Jerry Thompson and gotten
the inside story. Thompson was the original driver for the blue car while Yenko was serving a 6 month suspension for ignoring a black flag.


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« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2011, 02:01:53 AM »

Joie Chitwood, Jr pours some brake fluid into the master cylinder as they are doing a brake bleeding job
prior to the '67 Sebring 4-hour Trans-Am. Blue Chevy truck behind Joie has a Dana Chevrolet license
plate frame on it. Probably towed the Dick Guldstrand car out to Florida from California.


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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 05:18:29 PM »

Lots of old Trans-Am racing photos from the classic late '60s and early '70s at the following link...

http://public.fotki.com/gwadagone/trans-am-racing1966/
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2011, 03:53:49 AM »

This pic is not exactly as it seems. It is a Camaro, but before this it was a Titus/Godsall (Pontiac T/A Team) built customer car.
One of 6 cars constructed for the '69 season, it had a lot of trick parts. The Pontiac factory was giving a bit of help to the team and providing engineering advise and parts.

There is one train of thought that these cars were Camaros to start with, but they would have been body shells, and separate panels perhaps.

This particular car was supplied to Richard Brown, Canadian racer, and he campaigned it originally as a Firebird in orange from the 69 St Jovite race onwards, and later, 70 onwards as a Camaro, to legitimately use the Z/28 302, which the Pontiacs had been allowed to use in 68 and 69, as it helped get another manufacturer on board.

The car was raced as a Camaro by several subsequent owners, but when it was no longer deemed to be raceable it was stripped of the brakes and gauges (which went into a street car) no doubt the engine and gearbox found new homes, but the body was literally buried. It will not be unearthed.

I do not know who took this pic, but I ould like to graciously thank the rightful owner, and credit that person.

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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2011, 09:04:54 AM »

here is another picture showing RST sponsorship on front fender
 
Jerry Thompson, Don Stoeckel, Dick Rutherford, (RST) worked together at Chevy and raced together. They also had a side business where they sold racing parts. I have seen Yenko receipts where they sold parts to Yenko in 1966-67 for racing Camaros.

The address was RST Engineering 11631 Monsbrook CT., Utica, Mich. 48087

Jerry ran the Yenko Stinger Corvair race car for Yenko Chevrolet winning D/P SCCA national championship in 1967
and Don ran the 1967 L88 DX OIL Corvette in 1967.

I don't know how much they were able to race the 302 Camaro in 1967 but I was told Jerry raced it and Don did also and Don won a SCCA Sedan race with it. (non Trans Am race)


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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2011, 11:04:59 PM »

Daytona 300 Trans-Am, February 3, 1967. Mark Donohue's first race in a Camaro.


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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2011, 11:20:42 PM »

Sam Posey's '68 Penske Camaro. Sam was Mark's teammate for the middle part of the '68 season.
This is the same car that Donohue drove at Daytona earlier that year. Currently owned by Don Lee.

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« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2011, 02:26:32 PM »

Pace lap of the 1969 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cedarkayak/4419066167/sizes/o/in/photostream/]

Some photos from the 1967 Kent, WA Trans-Am, Pacific Raceways

http://www.flickr.com/photos/leicabokeh/sets/72157600168574114/with/483253081/
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2011, 01:28:04 AM »

Nice photo - have not seen any photos from this area before.  I started 21st next to the Locke/Bailey 68 Porsche 911. I look to be a bit out of position - can just see my 67 camaro with the 2 white hood stripes below the banner to the left of the V.

I shared the car that weekend with Dick Hoffman (H&H Racing) and the rear axle broke just after he took over after our fuel stop. Always enjoyed racing at Mid-Ohio.  It was only my 2nd T/A start. (I once held the D sedan lap record in 1966 - another story).

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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2011, 12:26:01 AM »

Vick Campbell's Camaro at Sebring, getting ready for tech inspection. The '67 season
was the last for a mandatory passenger seat, which you can see this car has. Bumpers
were not required until the 1969 season so almost everybody left them off to reduce weight.


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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2011, 12:37:28 AM »

Jon, is this camaro alive and well somewhere?

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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2011, 06:46:18 AM »

Thanks Jon for the excellant pics and histiry. In the Kent '67 race it looks like the Penske 16 is already experimenting with rear spoilers. This era, to me, was the very best time of road racing. Between F1, Trans Am, and Can Am it just couldn't get any better. No racing series has ever been better.
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« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2011, 11:33:16 PM »

Robert, no that Vick Campbell car has not been located yet. I hope it turns up someday. I love the car.

As for the Kent Trans-Am #16 car driven by Craig Fisher, to me the rear spoiler looks to be standard height
although the Penske team had a taller "cheater" rear spoiler at two races (at least) in August '67. I'll post
a comparison when I get an opportunity.

Below is a publicity photo shoot of Dick Guldstrand and his Dana sponsored Camaro. Thanks to Tim Lopata.


Copyrighted photo courtesy of Tim Lopata
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2011, 12:28:50 PM »

Nice shot of Robert Barg's Camaro at Sebring in 1969. Robert is standing behind the car with a blue jacket and sunglasses on.
Check out his story in the lastest interview I posted.

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« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2011, 05:30:50 PM »

Daytona 24-Hour, February 4, 1967. Two great looking cars on the hi-banks. Lloyd Ruby in the Ford GT and Craig Fisher in the Camaro.


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« Reply #24 on: March 16, 2011, 01:55:36 PM »

Compare the rear spoiler in both photos. The car is the same but the spoiler height is different.
First picture is at Sebring, late March '67, the second picture is at Continental Divide Raceway
in Colorado, August '67. Donohue ran this taller rear spoiler at the Bryar T/A, Marlboro T/A, &
CDR T/A. The car was damaged in a trailering accident on it's way to the following race and the
spoiler was not seen again.


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« Reply #25 on: March 16, 2011, 07:22:40 PM »

neat pics Jon, I wonder where that white z/28 is? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2011, 08:18:17 AM »

I've got no idea but you'd love that one for your collection, wouldn't you Ron?  Grin
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« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2011, 01:54:15 PM »

OH YES!! I like the blue one TOO!! Grin
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Daytona 24-Hour, February 4, 1967. Two great looking cars on the hi-banks. Lloyd Ruby in the Ford GT and Craig Fisher in the Camaro.


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Is this Camaro actually hanging with a Ford GT?
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« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2011, 05:12:25 PM »

no, they were in a differnt class, and the ford was a lot lighter than the camaro.That was a race that has 3 differnt classes running at the same time.
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2011, 04:02:28 PM »

Hey Ron,

I can't help you with the white or blue ones but this black Z-28 driven by Lake Underwood
at the Marlboro 300 Trans-Am race in '67 is for sale and not all that far from you.


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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2011, 04:25:36 PM »

Breaking a wheel hurts...


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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2011, 06:52:45 PM »

Breaking a wheel hurts...


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ouch!! that poor z28!!  How much is he asking for it Jon?
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« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 01:44:02 AM »

Ron,

Just to be clear, the black Z and the one that lost a wheel are not the same car.
Here's a link to an ad showing the black car for sale.

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/carsforsale/chevrolet/camaro/1132825.html
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« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 10:14:14 PM »

Ken Deckman's Z-28 at the '67 Riverside Trans-Am. Ken's car was bought new out of Alan Green Chevrolet in the Seattle area.
He had raced Corvettes prior to this. It was sold by Ken to Bob Morton is the 1990's and Bob restored and vintage raced it.


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« Reply #35 on: March 20, 2011, 07:31:29 AM »

thats a nice car the #9 car. The ad for the black car doesnt state a price but im sure Jon I cant afford it LOL. Not now with Riches car allmost done my funds are very low LOL.
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2011, 11:40:48 PM »

I remember Ken racing this car still in the eighties at Seattle and Westwood.  Ken was well into his "senior" years then.  It had some flared fenders at that time. Ken raced this car up and down the west coast and into the midwest.  I believe his engine builder was Everett Hatch, a well known NW engine builder for both race cars and planes.

When it came up for sale it was offered complete for about $10,000 and I was just starting to figure out it might have some "vintage racing" potential, but I was too slow off the mark.

You can find it now every year at the annual SOVREN Pacific North West Historics being raced by Bob Morton.  His son Bob jr. also has a 69 camaro T/A clone race car.

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2011, 12:26:01 PM »

Jon I see most of the scca cars have 4 point roll bars like mine.I thought that they needed a full cage for 67?here is a pic of the roll bar in my car,would it pass for a sedan?I sure would like to know where mine was raced.Its really bugging me man LOL Supposedly the guy who raced my car his name is Scott Moorehouse and it was raced around here somewhere.
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« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2011, 06:31:50 PM »

Ron,

I happened to post some pics from the earlier years of Trans-Am where you still saw some cars with 4-point roll bars. In 1970 it became mandatory for actual Trans-Am cars to have full roll cages in them, although A-Sedan cars running in regional and national events could still make do with 4-point roll bars for a few more years beyond that. I don't see anybody named Moorehouse in Trans-Am so if it did any road racing, it would have been as an A-Sedan car.

On another note, I found out the "black car" at Marlboro (above) was actually E-E code Deepwater Blue. Sure looks black in the photo and in the video I have seen from the race.
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« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2011, 12:30:11 PM »

Norberto Mastandrea's red '67 Z-28 at the '68 Sebring race.


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« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2011, 12:50:52 PM »

did the stock rims hold up under raceing conditions? Looks neat with them on the front.
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« Reply #41 on: March 22, 2011, 02:09:55 PM »

Some guys used steel wheels if they were on a budget and I have seen guys use them at places like
Daytona where there are high g-forces on the high banking. I guess the steel wheel would be a more
sturdy piece and you might want strength over lightness under that kind of circumstance. Whether the
wheels on the front of the Z above had extra welding on them, I don't know but I would think some
racers would have done that. The John Putnam '68 Camaro below ran all of it's races on steel rally
wheels regardless of the track, probably due to budget more than anything else.


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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2011, 03:20:20 PM »

Even the Bud Moore Cougars ran steel wheels for their first couple of races, including these
fancy styled steel wheels at the '67 Sebring Trans-Am.


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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2011, 03:26:19 PM »

Lance Pruyn and Peter Pulver's Marina Blue '67 Z was the first ponycar to use
Minilite wheels in Trans-Am. This was taken in August '67 at Bryar, NH. This
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« Reply #44 on: March 27, 2011, 05:05:27 PM »

The Marina Blue Z-28 of Bill Boye at the '68 Daytona 24-hour. Billy Yuma was Bill's co-driver. This car was one
of two Z-28 "Stormers" built at Yenko Chevrolet specifically for road racing. Car sold new through Yenko for $5900.


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« Reply #45 on: March 27, 2011, 11:59:58 PM »

The #14 camaro shown above in the 68 Sebring race was the class winner (12 Touring 2000-5000cc) in the 69 Sebring race, the race in which Rick Stevens and I came 3rd in that class.  There were 12 cars that started in our class. We were 25th o/a.

I have no idea whatever happened to that car - don't believe it ever raced in the T/A out of Florida with the listed drivers it had at Sebring.  Perhaps Jon knows.

I still have the complete race results, program, entry list, qualifying times, several newspaper and magazine reports of the 69 Sebring race - definitely a high moment in my racing to finish that 12 hr. with a new team - lots of memories.

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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2011, 10:50:08 AM »

Robert, I don't know what happened to that #14 car either. I have tried finding Norberto but have not had any luck. You may be right that it did all of its racing down in Florida.

As for the Bill Boye #68 above, I don't know for a fact but have my suspicions that Billy Yuma bought it from him and used it in Nascar GT races. Here is Billy's car at Daytona in 1969. I think the photo was taken at the Citrus 250 race that Don Yenko won in the former Smokey Yunick Camaro. Billy was usually a circle track roundy-round racer. Many of his cars were called "Orange Crate". He passed away several years ago.


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« Reply #47 on: March 29, 2011, 10:42:21 AM »

Here is the Todco Racing Camaro driven by Craig Fisher at Kent, WA Sept. 7th, 1969.
Craig finished 5th overall. This race was won by Ronnie Bucknum after Mark Donohue
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« Reply #48 on: March 29, 2011, 03:14:07 PM »

Ok, so what is the history of this car - who built it, drove it, where did it go next, where is it now, did it turn into a Pontiac etc? 

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« Reply #49 on: March 29, 2011, 08:18:40 PM »

Jon I hope these guys appreciate all this info that's alot of research.
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« Reply #50 on: March 29, 2011, 10:20:34 PM »

Robert, I suspect it is the same as the white '69 Camaro that Craig began the season with at Michigan Int'l Speedway but don't know that as absolute fact. I've not spent enough time on the history of this $7 car. Maybe Jeff Barley has and he will chime in.

Tim, I have gotten this started for a few different reasons. There is a lot of very neat Camaro racing history that is going to get lost to time if it doesn't get shared. It took a whole lot of time and effort to get to the knowledge level I have attained on the subject and I often wonder why it had to be so hard. If you look at the history that the Mustang road racer guys have acquired and shared, and to some extent also the AMC guys, it is pretty sad and pathetic to see so little info on the Camaro. I think the history of the car and the people involved with racing them deserves better --- MUCH better --- than what has been chronicled so far. This is just the start and it will grow because it needs to and deserves to.
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« Reply #51 on: March 30, 2011, 10:46:09 PM »

Here's Bob Bondurant driving the Dana Camaro at the Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am in '67.
Dick Guldstrand was Bondurant's co-driver for this particular race.


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« Reply #52 on: April 02, 2011, 11:32:47 AM »

The Deepwater Blue '67 Z-28 of Dean Alles at the Bridgehampton Trans-Am race.


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« Reply #53 on: April 04, 2011, 10:45:26 AM »

The Camaro of Johnny Moore and Jim Murphy at the '68 Daytona 24-Hour race.


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« Reply #54 on: April 06, 2011, 05:45:47 PM »

The Penske Camaro at Mid-Ohio in June, 1967. George Follmer was driving this weekend,
substituting for Mark Donohue who was at Le Mans driving a Ford MkIV teamed up with
Bruce McLaren as his co-driver. This was George's first ever Trans-Am race. He finished 3rd.


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« Reply #55 on: April 06, 2011, 09:51:12 PM »

I have recently acquired the "Penske Authentics" GMP 1:18 scale model of this car (along with the first Warren Tope Muatang).  My intent was to paint it up in the marina blue colour we had for our 67 in 69, but not so sure this is a good idea.  My modeller friend Phil Dauphinee, had built 2 nice 67s for me but I sent one to car owner Al Richards, and had to include the other one in a sale of some memorabilia I sold to a friend

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« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2011, 09:25:04 AM »

Maybe Phil will make you another one out of that model you have?  It'd look great in the '69 blue paint scheme.
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« Reply #57 on: April 08, 2011, 11:05:26 AM »

Here's an interesting one. The Camaro of Jim Corwin at the '68 Sebring 12-Hour. The car is almost
completely stock with full bumpers front and rear, and stock exhaust. It came in 25th out of 68 cars!
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« Reply #58 on: April 08, 2011, 11:30:06 AM »

Here's an interesting one. The Camaro of Jim Corwin at the '68 Sebring 12-Hour. The car is almost
completely stock with full bumpers front and rear, and stock exhaust. It came in 25th out of 68 cars!
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« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2011, 05:17:18 PM »

Here's a photo from the 1971 Lime Rock Trans-Am. Larry Mattera has got his '68 stuck in the mud after
7 laps and can't get it out. Unlike Nascar, Trans-Am races were run rain or shine. The driver was the only
person who could make repairs on the track and they weren't supposed to have assistance from others in
case they got stuck. They weren't "supposed to" but sometimes it did happen and they got away with it.
Other times, they were disqualified right away. Probably depended on if you were a big name driver or not.

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« Reply #60 on: April 16, 2011, 10:29:52 AM »

Vince Piggins in the blue baseball cap talks with car owner Hugh Heishman in the red shirt as driver
Jim Murphy stands nearby. This is at the '68 Lime Rock Trans-Am.


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« Reply #61 on: April 16, 2011, 10:34:14 AM »

Driver Jim Murphy with the Heishman Camaro at the '68 Lime Rock Trans-Am.


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« Reply #62 on: April 18, 2011, 03:34:56 PM »

Jerry Lagod's Camaro circa 1971. This car began life as a '68 Camaro but was reskinned into a '69 after a wreck.

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« Reply #63 on: April 18, 2011, 04:30:37 PM »

Ken Stoddard's '69 loses a rear wheel at the 1971 Bryar Trans-Am.

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« Reply #64 on: April 18, 2011, 11:14:49 PM »

Jon, has the Stoddard car surfaced in the T/A vintage world?  Jerry Lagod still has their 68/69?

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« Reply #65 on: April 19, 2011, 11:12:58 AM »

I don't know if the Stoddard car survives or not. There is not much info on that particular car or driver. This is my only photo of the car.

Here are some more photos of Jerry Lagod's car courtesy of Mike Jarchow. Yes, Lagod still has his old car.


At an SCCA National event at Meadowdale, 1968.


In the paddock at Road America, June Sprints 1969


On the grid at the 1971 Road America Trans-Am. Bob Tullius' Pontiac Tempest to the right.


Circa 1988 at Blackhawk Farms (Rockford, Illinois area)
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2011, 11:39:59 AM »

Warren Agor's Hugger Orange '69 Camaro.

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« Reply #67 on: April 21, 2011, 10:08:42 AM »

A couple of photos of the Everett Hatch Camaro. This car was raced by Dick Stanton
and Duane Zinola in '67 before Ev Hatch took over the driving in '68 and updated the
look of the car to the '68 body style. The color was light yellow and raced primarily in
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« Reply #68 on: April 24, 2011, 01:33:04 AM »

Lance Pruyn hangin' the tail out in his nearly stock '67 Z-28. I believe this was taken at the car's first race
at the Lime Rock Trans-Am, 5/30/67. The car was not even a month old at the time. (built 05A)


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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2011, 12:57:46 PM »

Ralph Webb's Camaro getting ready to head to the track for the '68 Meadowdale Trans-Am.


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« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2011, 09:59:17 AM »

Dick Guldstrand's Dana Camaro at the '67 Riverside Trans-Am.

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« Reply #71 on: April 28, 2011, 12:17:42 PM »

Hello Jon,

Thanks for posting the pic of the 1967 Dick Guldstrand Dana Camaro with the front wheel off.  When I last saw this car racing with the Historic Trans-Am group it was running a Corvette spindle, which then has the caliper mounted in front of the axle centerline.  I figured it may have run a Corvette spindle and caliper brackets because of Guldstrand's well known expertise with 'Vette bits.  

This pic shows me that my assumption may have been wrong, or perhaps the Corvette spindle wasn't used 'til after Riverside, 1967.

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« Reply #72 on: April 28, 2011, 02:40:14 PM »

Chad, The photos of the cars on the track are fun to look at but these shots that allow us to see more of the details of the cars are the ones I really enjoy. The '67 rule book does not discuss spindles but the '68 rule books says the spindles can be modified or changed as long as there are no changes to the track or wheelbase. I'm not sure if the Corvette spindle would do any of that. I guess that needs some research. I think it's pretty clear the car did not run that way in '67 but as for '68, I don't have an answer for that at this time. I don't recall another Camaro running with the caliper on the leading side of the axle centerline back in the old days. Anybody else aware of an example?
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« Reply #73 on: April 28, 2011, 07:38:27 PM »

Jon

As I recall the John Punnam 68 Camaro ran modified Corvette front spindles.

What I notice in the photo of the Guldstrand #56 Camaro is the gap between the front of the door and fender near the top. Is this the result of a bad repair/ installation or were they lowering the nose in front thus resulting in the gap.

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« Reply #74 on: April 29, 2011, 02:14:13 PM »

Ralph Webb's Camaro getting ready to head to the track for the '68 Meadowdale Trans-Am.


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This car was owned by Arnie Fick and sponsored by O A Fick Tool and Die Works in Chicago.  It is a 1967 Camaro that was a repo. Almost everything was stripped from it, including the grill, so a 1968 grill was installed.

Jon, I am having trouble with my scanner. Can you please post a couple more of the pictures I sent you of this car.  I know there is the rear shot in the driveway and an action shot from the 1968 Trans Am at Meadowdale with Ralph Webb driving.
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« Reply #75 on: April 29, 2011, 05:36:48 PM »

Here you go, Mike.  Was this the same car that was sold to Allen Hewitt, Jr
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« Reply #76 on: April 29, 2011, 05:44:16 PM »

Yes, Allen and Arnie made a deal at Meadowdale after the Trans Am.  I saw Allen race it at IRP right after he bought it in the same paint scheme. Later he painted it in a multi-color scheme and ran it in Trans Ams.
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« Reply #77 on: April 29, 2011, 10:33:15 PM »

Mike, what was done with the taillights on this car? They look different than stock.
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« Reply #78 on: April 30, 2011, 04:46:54 PM »

Jon,

Because the car was a repo (it was stolen and found later, stripped), the taillight chrome was missing also.  Lenses were used as seen in the pictures, which was common on Arnie Fick owned cars.  His GT350 had the lenses with no chrome too.  

Later when Allen Hewitt owned the car, taillight chrome was added.

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« Reply #79 on: May 02, 2011, 12:30:46 PM »

Thanks, Mike.

Here's a photo of the John Putnam Camaro in the '70-'71 paint scheme. John was in the San Francisco Region
of the SCCA at this time but the car ran in the '71 Riverside Trans-Am, the '72 Bryar Trans-Am and the '72 Road
America Trans-Am, as well as numerous IMSA and A-Sedan races before John sold it at the end of 1973.


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« Reply #80 on: May 03, 2011, 02:00:09 PM »

Mark Donohue in the #6 and Bob Stevens in the #19 at the Kent (Washington) Trans-Am, October 6, 1968.

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« Reply #81 on: May 03, 2011, 11:52:25 PM »

Bob was from Vancouver BC  He was a tech guy at a GM dealership and built that car himself as soon as they were available.  It was mostly club raced and eventually put back on the street - has not surfaced.

After the camaro, Bob built and raced a quick Datsun 510 in the 2.5 Challenge in 72

Bob has passed on, but his son Bob jr is a sprint car racer at Skagit Speedway in WA and his daughter Cindy was the SCCBC club points champion racer in a Honda at the Mission Raceway road course in 09.

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« Reply #82 on: May 08, 2011, 05:29:35 AM »

This is Canadian Gord Dewar (unknown photographer) he had some very impressive results for a privateer with relatively little backing or experience .

The car appears to be an ex Titus/Godsall Firebird that was converted to Camaro sheet metal for the '70 season. There is also speculation that it is a Gorries built car, but without independent verification we cannot be certain either way.

His results would point to it being a a well built and prepared car, and well driven.

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« Reply #83 on: May 08, 2011, 07:33:05 PM »

The Gord Dewar Camaro above looks great. 

The rear flares look very much like a Titus-Godsall built piece.  Too bad the 1969 Titus Firebirds didn't use window hold down tabs in '69, preferably with each car having the tabs in slightly different locations, as it might be another tool in tracking them in their later use.

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« Reply #84 on: May 09, 2011, 01:51:54 AM »

Indeed the cage design looks exctly like the Titus/Godsall built Firebirds. The front tube, tight against the A pillar is a very strong clue.
The design and placement of the bars behind the driver is also typical of the T/G cars.

Sadly I cannot find anyone that was close to Gord or the team that can give me any clues to the history before Gord bought it, or after he sold it.
Gord Dewar died relatively young, due to complications after what should have been straight forward surgery.

There is a good chance that this car survived for some years after this shot was taken, maybe it still does.

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« Reply #85 on: May 10, 2011, 02:13:53 PM »

The Washburn Chevrolet sponsored '67 Z-28 was from Santa Barbara, CA and was a very competitive "privateer" entry.
Here it is shown winning an A/Sedan race at Willow Springs. Tony Settember was the driver and Bob Joehnck was the
team manager and engine builder. This blue Z-28 is rumored to still be around as it was sold to a collector who later
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These are some photos I have collected over the last decade... I will be more than happy to credit the photographer if anyone happens to know who they may be...






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« Reply #90 on: May 15, 2011, 10:56:00 PM »

Great! Thanks for posting. The top two photos show the Floyd Aaskov Camaro in '68 at Mid Ohio. This is the same Camaro raced by Lance Pruyn and Peter Pulver in '67 and it is currently owned by Scott Bader. I don't know the others except for the last one which I believe raced in A/Sedan but not in Trans-Am.
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This I believe is a newer photo of the car in color...


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« Reply #92 on: May 16, 2011, 12:13:20 AM »

Yes, that's the same car.
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« Reply #93 on: May 20, 2011, 01:49:31 PM »

Craig Fisher sent me this photo from a test session done at Marlboro in December 1967. Note the Goodyear tire on the front of the car and Mark with the Firestone patch on his driving uniform. Roger had been a Firestone dealer but they switched to Goodyears at Kent (Washington) for the Trans-Am finale because Mark cut better lap times with them and they were wanting to close out the season with a win (of course). After Kent and this test session, Roger became a Goodyear racing tire distributor and gave up his Firestone franchise.

L-R, Craig Fisher, Mark Donohue, Peter Reinhart pouring oil, and crew chief Roy Gane.
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Here is a picture of the Dick Lang 1968 Z/28 Camaro, before it was turned into a race car.  According to Dick Lang's son, Todd Lang, the first picture shows:

  • Owner/driver Dick Lang on the right.  The fellow on the left was Dick Lang’s mechanic, “Matt” Mathews.  Matt was a long time mechanic at the Lang's Chevrolet dealership.
  • A blue 1968 Z/28 Dick Lang ordered, along with a bunch of road race specific factory parts to make the car into an A-Sedan and Trans-Am racer.
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The picture below is of Dick Lang's 1968 Z/28 Camaro at the 1968 American Road Race of Champions.  Dick Lang won this event and was crowned the A-Sedan national champion.

 
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« Reply #96 on: May 21, 2011, 11:30:59 AM »

And I must thank Todd Lang for the above information on his Dad's Camaro, and for allowing me to post these photos.

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« Reply #97 on: May 21, 2011, 01:01:18 PM »

Terrific stuff! Todd, your dad was a very good driver. He had some good success with a '63 Z06 Corvette as well as the Camaro. He was good enough to be asked to join the Owens-Corning Corvette team for races at Daytona and Sebring and they were the dominant team at that time. Many thanks for letting us see those neat historical photographs. We'd love to see more or hear more from you as time allows.
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« Reply #98 on: May 22, 2011, 01:15:47 AM »

Ron Fournier was and still is a master fabricator who joined the Penske race team in the fall of '67. He was responsible
for most of the construction of the '68 and '69 Penske Camaro race cars. Here he is sitting in the second '68 race car
prior to it being lettered. This is at the Penske race shop in Newtown Square, PA.

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A great story on one of the unsung racing heros.  I was priveleged to meet him at the 09 Petersen Tribute to Trans-Am. - always had great admiration for the guys who could weld and fabricate etc.

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« Reply #100 on: June 01, 2011, 09:14:08 PM »

I see the red guts, what color was the car when delivered?
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« Reply #101 on: June 02, 2011, 08:38:33 AM »

This car was a body-in-white and was not a completed car, just a body. From there they built it into a completed race car after first acid-dipping it to reduce weight. They painted the car blue and put a red interior in it apparently because they liked the combination. I have seen a photo later in the season where Donohue's car has blue interior panels.
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« Reply #102 on: June 06, 2011, 11:02:23 PM »

A photo of the '69 Penske Camaro dash and interior. This is early in the '69 season due to the presence of the vinyl top.


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« Reply #103 on: June 06, 2011, 11:06:35 PM »

Mark Donohue's Camaro. This is believed to be at Mid-Ohio in June '69.


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Ron Bucknum, driver of the #9 Penske Camaro for the 1969 season.


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Daytona, February 1968.
L-R: Roger Penske, Mark Donohue, Bob Johnson, Craig Fisher. Standing: Jerry Kroninger, from Sun Oil.
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« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2011, 10:25:57 AM »

Photos from Sebring, March 1968. This was a 12-hour endurance race (also an official part of the Trans-Am schedule) where the Trans-Am cars were included in the same race as the Porsche 907 prototypes, GT40s, Lola T70s, etc. Mark Donohue and Craig Fisher finished an amazing 3rd overall and 1st in Trans-Am. A truly outstanding accomplishment. Many thanks to Pat Ryan for forwarding these Jerry Kroninger photos for us to enjoy.

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« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2011, 10:37:46 AM »

Here is the Sebring Trans-Am class-winner showing the #15 on it, as it was during the race. While the '68 (heavier car) was the car that went through tech inspection twice, this lighter car is the one that qualified both cars for the race during the practice laps.
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« Reply #108 on: June 10, 2011, 01:49:18 AM »

1969 Penske Camaro of Donohue refueling at 1969 Watkins Glen Trans-Am.  Photo from March, 1970, Auto Racing magazine.
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Warren Fairbanks 1967 Z/28 at Road America in 1971 from Aug-Sept 1971 CORVETTE NEWS.
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Interesting that both cars in 1968 Sebring photos has the SS hood with what lookes like the stock louver trim parts in place.

I always wonder why they used the SS hood instead of the stock Z/28 flat hood (67-68)

I have read that one of the cars was bought new as an SS but on the other car they would have had to change out the flat hood to an SS hood?
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« Reply #111 on: June 10, 2011, 10:51:43 AM »

I don't know why they used those hoods, Joe. Later in the season they went back to flat hoods. Both '68 cars began life as bodies-in-white, not as complete "showroom" models.
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« Reply #112 on: June 15, 2011, 01:23:07 PM »

The Penske Camaro on pit road prior to the start of the 1968 Daytona 24-hour race. This is the only year when the Daytona 24-hour was part of the Trans-Am schedule. Roger Penske is leaning in giving Mark last minute instructions while chief mechanic Roy Gane listens in.
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« Reply #113 on: June 17, 2011, 10:39:36 AM »

Two gold and black Camaros taking off at the start of the 1967 Sebring 4-hour Trans-Am race. The #22 is driven by Charlie Kolb of the Fred Baker Racing Team and the #4 is driven by Johnny Moore (entered by HRH Corp, Hugh Heishman's entry).
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« Reply #114 on: June 25, 2011, 10:38:26 PM »

I've posted these in the thread discussing GMP models but they should probably be here too.

The Penske Camaro at the August 12, 1967 Marlboro Trans-Am.

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Penske Camaro interior at Marlboro.

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Penske Camaro interior two weeks later at Continental Divide Raceway.


Penske Camaro at the August 6, 1967 Bryar Trans-Am showing location of battery in the trunk. Note
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is the rear spoiler I talked about earlier that was used only at Bryar, Marlboro and Continental Divide.

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« Reply #115 on: June 25, 2011, 11:52:29 PM »

Mark Donohue broke an axle (twice) at the '67 Bryar Trans-Am and tore up all his new, thin-gauge sheetmetal.
Do you see that little dot on the rear spoiler, just outside of the rear stripe? That's a big slotted head screw
(painted body color). There were three of these, one in the middle and one each to the outside of the stripes
to hold down the front of the spoiler. Style points = zero.


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« Reply #116 on: June 27, 2011, 11:13:18 AM »

Some photos courtesy of Tim Lopata. They are frames captured from a Trans-Am film he has.
These two are of Robert Barg's Z-28 Camaro during the '69 Trans-Am season.
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« Reply #117 on: June 27, 2011, 10:14:05 PM »

This would be the 69 Mid-Ohio T/A.  Tim has a racing T/A film?

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« Reply #118 on: June 28, 2011, 10:49:48 AM »

He says they are clips from a movie called "Ford Flat Out". Maybe this is the one Dick Hoffman did the filming for at Riverside? Here are a few more from the same movie.
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« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2011, 07:03:12 PM »

The car # at Mid Ohio was # 50.  Dick used # 48 at Riverside, his usual race #,  according to the photo with the camera on my "interview" thread. Also I don't see any camera on the car in Tim's photo.

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« Reply #120 on: June 28, 2011, 09:50:01 PM »

I didn't phrase that very well. I don't believe that he did the filming for the entire movie, just the part that was on the track at Riverside.
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« Reply #121 on: June 29, 2011, 12:03:45 AM »

Maybe I didn't make it very clear either, but the car with #50 only ran at Mid Ohio, so somewhow it ended up in Ford film also.

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« Reply #122 on: June 29, 2011, 08:12:34 AM »

Thanks Jon Kurt got me back up again.
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« Reply #123 on: June 29, 2011, 08:14:08 AM »

Jon would know these camaros.
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« Reply #124 on: June 29, 2011, 08:17:06 AM »

I used to send my racing films to Old Cars Weekly to post for me but the person that dowloaded it to YOUTUBE doesn't work there anymore.
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« Reply #125 on: June 29, 2011, 08:46:05 AM »

The film is so quick images were hard to capture.
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« Reply #126 on: June 29, 2011, 02:11:16 PM »

Thanks, Tim. Even though blurry that one picture looks like Frank Search's '68 Camaro spinning in front of Dick Hoffman's '67 and Gerry Gregory's '69 at the '69 Riverside Trans-Am.

Here are a couple of photos of Mark Donohue's Camaro at the '67 Marlboro Trans-Am.



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« Reply #127 on: June 29, 2011, 06:38:18 PM »

The red #92 camaro being dirt-tracked is Rusty Jowett.  He was a leading independant driver in 68 and 69 with 13 top ten finishes including some top fives. He also had a 2nd and 3rd in 2 Nascar baby grand races.  He wrecked his 67 camaro at the 68 Watkins Glen T/A race - I was following him when suddenly he went off track and rolled the car a few times.  A 68 car was then built from a Penske body-in-white with much help from Donohue. Rusty was very fast but did not race in 70 and only once in 71 - often wonder what happened to such a promising racing career.  Paul Nichter from Buffalo was the next owner and racer of that 68 car. "Nick" used to tell me just to "drive the wheels off that camaro" I was racing.

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« Reply #128 on: July 04, 2011, 12:04:26 PM »

Mark Donohue's Camaro and Steve Brownstein's Mustang at the '67 Lime Rock Trans-Am (from the Bryar Trans-Am program)
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« Reply #129 on: July 04, 2011, 12:06:47 PM »

Roger West in the Joie Chitwood Camaro at the '67 Lime Rock Trans-Am (photo from the Bryar Trans-Am program)
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« Reply #130 on: August 13, 2011, 12:10:44 AM »

Mark Donohue and Parnelli Jones at the start of the '69 Bryar Trans-Am.

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« Reply #131 on: October 01, 2011, 12:09:22 PM »

Mark Donohue in the #15 car at the '68 Sebring Trans-Am.

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« Reply #132 on: October 02, 2011, 12:53:58 AM »

June 1967 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am. George Follmer, standing in the driving suit with Firestone across
the back, is substituting for Mark Donohue who is driving at LeMans for the Ford team. Roger Penske
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« Reply #133 on: October 03, 2011, 10:26:21 PM »

Another shot of George Follmer and the Penske Camaro at the June '67 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am.


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« Reply #134 on: October 04, 2011, 03:12:00 AM »

That is a very neat shot Jon, it looks quite sparsely populated, is this during practice ?

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« Reply #135 on: October 04, 2011, 01:45:18 PM »

Bruce, I do believe that was taken during an earlier practice session because during the actual race the flexible
air duct was mounted up high on the roof drip rail and in the photo just above, the duct is seen just below the
rear quarter window.

Here is a photo of Donohue's first '67 Camaro taken at the Marlboro Trans-Am in August '67. As probably
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« Reply #136 on: October 05, 2011, 08:37:12 AM »

Craig Fisher seated in the first '68 Penske Camaro with Roger Penske talking to him and possibly crew member Tom Greatorex on the
passenger side. I'm not sure of the crew member at the back and neither is Craig when I asked him. It's possible it is a Goodyear tire guy.
This was taken at the February '68 Daytona 24-hour race. This must have been during a pre-race practice session due to the relaxed
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« Reply #137 on: October 05, 2011, 11:44:32 AM »

Bruce, I remember that races at Mid-Ohio were usually well attended.  The track has several small "knolls" that spectators usually congregated at. That was either a practise day or just not a good viewing area.

Mid-Ohio was a favoutite track of mine to go racing at.

When are you going to bring that car over and do some of the tracks that we raced at?  I will make sure to attend!

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1968-era photo showing the dash of Penske's Daytona 24hr Camaro, as seen above.


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« Reply #139 on: October 08, 2011, 03:25:33 PM »

Bruce, I remember that races at Mid-Ohio were usually well attended.  The track has several small "knolls" that spectators usually congregated at. That was either a practise day or just not a good viewing area.

Mid-Ohio was a favoutite track of mine to go racing at.

When are you going to bring that car over and do some of the tracks that we raced at?  I will make sure to attend!

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Damn straight you'll attend Robert, I'll need you in the pits. But a few fiscal matters need attending to. oh and I hope my car is eligible.

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« Reply #140 on: October 10, 2011, 03:16:28 PM »

Bob West's Camaro gets sideways in turn 11 at the 1969 Sears Point Trans-Am between the Camaros of Hugh Harn
and Gerry Gregory. Bob had sponsorship from Nor-Cal Auto in Burlingame, Calif for this race.
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« Reply #141 on: October 11, 2011, 10:19:55 PM »

Not a Trans-Am car but instead a Nascar GT machine, which I believe was built by Smokey Yunick.
Pete Hamilton was a very good Nascar driver pretty new on the scene at that time and Lloyd Ruby
was an outstanding driver who could race in any type of car and was always a threat to win.

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« Reply #142 on: October 16, 2011, 04:19:57 PM »

Photo shows Larry Drover owned '68 Camaro as prepared for the start of the '69 racing season.


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« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2011, 01:54:25 AM »

Photos of Donohue's Sunoco Camaro from early in the '69 season (vinyl roof still on).


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« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2011, 03:02:01 PM »

Big smiles from the two winners of the Marlboro 300 Trans-Am race on August 12, 1967. Mark Donohue is holding the cup/trophy and
Craig Fisher is looking directly at the camera. This was the first win for Penske and first win for any Camaro in the Trans-Am series.

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Mark Donohue, with his oldest son Michael in front of him, accepting accolades for a job well done. That's the chief starter Tex Hopkins
(with the cigar in his mouth) talking with Mark's wife Sue, while Craig Fisher (to Sue's left) listens in.

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« Reply #145 on: November 29, 2011, 09:21:03 PM »

Great Pictures Jon. Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #146 on: December 03, 2011, 04:37:02 PM »

You're welcome. Here a shot of the #15 Penske Camaro during a pit stop at Sebring (March '68).


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« Reply #147 on: December 03, 2011, 05:35:23 PM »

That is my all time favorite Camaro, followed by the 69 model, then Smokeys 68. Just can't get enough of these cars. I have 1:18 scale models of all three still in the boxes. One day I want to build a 68. Just curious why there are pictures of the 67 with 68 doors, or were those 67 doors with the vent windows removed.
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« Reply #148 on: December 04, 2011, 02:57:28 AM »

The car in the pit stop photo above is a true '67 but it has a '68 grill in it to help it look like the twin of the other Penske team car, which was a true '68 model.
The '68 Sebring race was the only race that year where Penske used this '67 Camaro. Hopefully that answered your question.
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The car in the pit stop photo above is a true '67 but it has a '68 grill in it to help it look like the twin of the other Penske team car, which was a true '68 model.
The '68 Sebring race was the only race that year where Penske used this '67 Camaro. Hopefully that answered your question.

Thanks Jon. I guess I should have asked if they ever ran the 67 with 68 doors or thge vents windows removed. Thought I saw  pictures of the 67 like that, or would have been the 68 with a 67 grill?
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« Reply #150 on: January 22, 2012, 12:34:57 AM »

I am not recalling any '68 Penske car that ran with a '67 grille in it.

Here's the ex-Dick Lang Camaro that ran in the '69 Wolverine Trans-Am as well as several other Trans-Am events in the late '60s.
Dick also won the '68 ARRC event at Riverside with the car. It went to Sweden after Dick sold it and here it is seen at Mantorp Park
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This Competition Press ad shows Pete Ledwith as the owner after Lang and before going to Sweden.

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« Reply #151 on: January 26, 2012, 11:24:09 PM »

Canadian racer Al Mason circa 1970.

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« Reply #152 on: January 27, 2012, 01:04:42 AM »

This was a very well built car.  Al never raced it in a Trans-Am but it later was raced in 3 or 4 T/A races by Peter Wiseman of Toronto.  It passed thru my hands in 1980 as a roller (still had wind-up windows).  I, of course, flipped it for a profit, so I could go and race at the 1980 Hallet Trans-Am with the first ex Dick Hoffman 1970/71 T/A camaro   It was supposedly put back on the street, but I heard many years later from Al Mason that it ended up as a drag racer in eastern Canada - whereabouts unkown.

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« Reply #153 on: January 28, 2012, 02:27:18 AM »

Thanks, Robert. I did not realize the Al Mason car turned into the Fossman Racing/Pete Wiseman car.
I believe Wiseman did 5 Trans-Am races during the '71 season. (Wiseman's car seen below at St Jovite)

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« Reply #154 on: January 28, 2012, 11:47:19 AM »

This is some good stuff....how about a tab for AS cars only, kinda like the AP and BP cars.  BTW- no one noticed that BP AMX at the front of the grid in front of all of the BP Vettes and Shelbys!  That was Ike Knupp, Cen-Div champion in 69, and nearly won it all at the run-offs!

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« Reply #155 on: January 31, 2012, 09:50:36 PM »

I am a new member on this forum and joined because I think I can answer some of your questions about Todco racing 1969 to 1972 as I worked there at the time.
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« Reply #156 on: January 31, 2012, 11:26:52 PM »

Ken, thanks a lot for signing up for the forum and we look forward to being able to ask you some questions about Todco Racing.
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« Reply #157 on: February 26, 2012, 01:32:29 AM »

Start of the 1970 Laguna Seca Trans-Am. Corvette pace car seen on pit lane.
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« Reply #158 on: February 29, 2012, 12:12:10 AM »

Mo Carter's red & white '68 Camaro taken during the '69 season, courtesy of Ken Ulrich. Thank you, Ken!

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« Reply #159 on: February 29, 2012, 12:23:45 AM »

Ken, did you get to know any of the Mo Carter crew?  I'm trying to contact a Ken Ball who also looked after Mo's Firestone tire operation.  Thanks.

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« Reply #160 on: February 29, 2012, 12:37:29 PM »

The Camaro of Larry Wilcox, as seen at the Green Valley Polar Prix in early 1969. Larry ran this car in one Trans-Am race in May 1968
[The War Bonnet 250 in New Mannford, OK] and ran in A/Sedan the rest of the time. I'm wondering if anybody knows what happened
to this car after Wilcox sold it. It would be nice to know if it got back in Trans-Am under a different driver/owner.

Photo courtesy of Jerry Melton


I'm going to make an assumption that WEB Enterprises was owned by Larry Wilcox. If someone knows different, let me know.


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« Reply #161 on: March 01, 2012, 02:38:39 PM »

No Robert not really, but I do remember JT talking to Moe whenever we saw them at a track.
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« Reply #162 on: March 02, 2012, 02:31:46 PM »

1972 Bryar Trans-Am. The '68 Camaro of John Putnam going by in a blur. This car is currently owned by Dave Doyal.

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« Reply #163 on: March 05, 2012, 09:14:43 PM »

WEB sold a Camaro Chassis Preparation  and Clearances and Specifications for 302 cu.in. v-8 Chevrolet Engines in the early 70's,they were based in Grand Paririe, Texas. The chassis manual covered subframe and body prep,roll cage install,front and rear suspension,spring and sway bar rates,shocks and bump stops, and brakes just to name a few. also included was G.M. part # for steering componets,springs,sway bars,brakes, etc, it was very well put together and undoubly straight from Chevrolet.I think I have seen this mentioned on other Camaro websites. Has anyone else seen this info?
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« Reply #164 on: March 05, 2012, 10:42:02 PM »

The Camaro Chassis Preparation sheets are already posted on our forum here:  http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7863.0

There's also some more info here: http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=8578.0

I have the "Clearance and Specifications for 302..." sheets you mention but have not gotten around to copying and posting them yet.
I'll see if I can set aside some time to do that.
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"These two photographs were taken in the Trois-Rivières race weekend in September of 1970......I ran in both the Quebec Regional Championship that year and the Canadian Touring Car Championship races, back to back on Sunday.
 
The first shot is in the Quebec race (25 laps), open for sedans and sports cars (explaining the Cobra on the front row in second position) which I won from the Cobra and Derek Johnson flag to flag from pole (Todco car qualified third on the outside front row).
 
The second shot was taken after my second win.
 
The second race was the Canadian Touring Car race (40 laps) and we were joined this time by Moe Carter in his ex-Chaparal Camaro who had qualified second and .... after having again qualified on pole beat them all flag to flag and .......... and by a country mile might I add  .
 
You could say I was just flying that day as  the car was extremely well set up by our very competent mechanics ,  and that shorts city circuits being favourites of mine, I won Three Rivers 5 years/times in different cars, all sedans of course..."


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« Reply #166 on: March 31, 2012, 12:02:04 AM »

Lloyd Ruby in the Gene White Firestone/Jim Rathmann Chevrolet sponsored Camaro is locked in a heated battle
with Parnelli Jones' Bud Moore Mustang. This is at the Citrus 250, a Nascar GT race at Daytona in February '69.
This was the debut of the Boss 302 Mustang in any kind of officially sanctioned race. Neither car finished.

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« Reply #167 on: May 01, 2012, 02:10:34 PM »

Here's a photo of the Warren Fairbanks Z-28 at Road America in 1971.

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« Reply #168 on: May 27, 2012, 11:05:28 AM »

Smokey Yunick's Camaro at Riverside, September '67.

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« Reply #169 on: May 29, 2012, 01:31:03 AM »

What a great picture
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« Reply #170 on: June 04, 2012, 01:17:03 PM »

Another shot of the Peter Wiseman car, this time at the '71 Michigan Trans-Am.

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« Reply #171 on: June 04, 2012, 11:36:53 PM »

Thanks to Robert for all the new photo additions!

Great stuff from a true enthusiast, both "back in the day," and today.

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« Reply #172 on: June 09, 2012, 01:16:55 AM »

Mark Donohue's Sunoco Javelin prior to the '71 Wolverine Trans-Am. Privateer racer Martin Shook's blue '67 Z-28 Camaro (car #54) can be seen next
to Donohue's car but he's not sharing a front row spot with Mark. The inner row of cars will head out first followed by the row headed by Martin's car.

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Smokey Yunick's Camaro at Riverside, September '67.

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« Reply #174 on: June 12, 2012, 02:11:13 PM »

You might like this one as well. Same car at Daytona in February, 1968. Not allowed to run in the
Daytona 24-Hour race because it still did not pass tech inspection.
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« Reply #175 on: June 13, 2012, 04:15:16 PM »

 Re:  Photo of Parnelli and Ruby in Citrus 250...race was won by Don Yenko in recently purchased( by Mike Summers of Best Photo Service ) Yunick Camaro. In my book " The Yenko Era " you will find a photo of Mr. Jones sitting in the Mustang looking very unhappy. He said he was at a disadvantage being a Firestone dealer ,having to use a tire not competitive with latest Goodyears. Also , I recall he had trouble with the shifter.
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« Reply #176 on: June 29, 2012, 04:47:03 PM »

Alan LaBrush has spun his '67 Camaro out on the track at the '71 Road America Trans-Am.
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« Reply #177 on: June 29, 2012, 10:26:44 PM »

Re the Michigan 71 T/A photo - I believe those cars were lined up for a practise session, in no particular order.

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« Reply #178 on: June 30, 2012, 11:25:29 AM »

Another shot of the Alan LaBrush #70 Camaro prior to the running of the '71 Road America Trans-Am.
That's Frank Reimann's #43 Camaro. My stepfather, Jack Guerrier, is the person talking to Alan LaBrush.

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« Reply #179 on: July 17, 2012, 07:45:44 AM »

Mo Carter's red '67 Z-28, taken at Mosport in September 1967. These come courtesy of Mike Scott (group/7) from Ontario, Canada.
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« Reply #180 on: July 19, 2012, 01:52:07 AM »

You might like this one as well. Same car at Daytona in February, 1968. Not allowed to run in the
Daytona 24-Hour race because it still did not pass tech inspection.

Love it. Any idea why it did not pass tech?
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« Reply #181 on: July 19, 2012, 10:23:35 PM »

I have misplaced my "Chevrolet = Racing?" book, which I think has some details on that. From memory, I think most of it had to do with aerodynamic trickery such as the mounting of the headlight doors and the heavily smoothed underside of the car. The SCCA tech people did not like what they saw.
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« Reply #182 on: July 20, 2012, 10:30:40 PM »

I seem to remember reading something about the windshield being slightly raked and the nose angled down more than stock. But those may have been tricks used on his Chevelle.
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« Reply #183 on: September 07, 2012, 09:15:17 AM »

Warren Fairbanks at the 1971 Donnybrook Trans Am.

From the Mike Jarchow collection.
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« Reply #184 on: September 10, 2012, 10:49:34 PM »

This photo is from Ontario Motor Speedway, October 20, 1970. Doug Hooper's McLaren and Bud Turner's Camaro (#42) in an SCCA National event. Bud Turner's '67 Camaro would be in the Riverside Trans-Am race just two weeks later. (Jon Mello Collection)
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« Reply #185 on: September 10, 2012, 11:16:44 PM »

Thanks for posting this photo, Jon.  



Though I don't have more on the entry for this race, given the wheels and skinned lower chassis on the McLaren, and that Doug Hooper is driving... I'd say this is the old Holywood Sport Cars McLaren.  Chassis# 20-09.

Thanks again, and sorry I don't have anything to add about the Bud Turner Camaro that is pictured.

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« Reply #186 on: September 11, 2012, 10:29:56 AM »

I thought that might be your McLaren, Chad, but I wasn't quite sure. I'll look to see if I have any more pics of it.

Below is the '69 Camaro of Carlos Iribe, also seen at the same Ontario event as the Bud Turner car above. It too ran at the '70 Riverside
Trans-Am a couple of weeks later. I'll have to check to be sure but I think Carlos' car was green. (Jon Mello Collection)
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« Reply #187 on: October 08, 2012, 04:47:15 PM »

Tom Lynch's white #74 Camaro at the '69 Riverside Trans-Am along with Parnelli Jones' #15 Mustang.
Partially visible is the #18 T/G Firebird driven by Milt Minter.

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« Reply #188 on: October 24, 2012, 11:14:24 PM »

This photo is one that was sent to me by David Tom and is from his personal collection. It will be used in his forthcoming Trans-Am book
which should come out in print sometime in 2013. Many thanks to David for letting me post it here in advance of his book. The photo is
from the June 1967 Mid-Ohio Trans-Am race. The blue & yellow Camaro is Mark Donohue's (but driven by George Follmer that weekend)
and the yellow & black one is Craig Fisher's. It is interesting to note on the Fisher car that the stock gas filler hole in the center of the rear
taillight panel has been completely smoothed over.
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« Reply #189 on: November 10, 2012, 07:51:15 PM »

Ralph Webb's Camaro getting ready to head to the track for the '68 Meadowdale Trans-Am.


Photo: Mike Jarchow Collection




This car was owned by Arnie Fick and sponsored by O A Fick Tool and Die Works in Chicago.  It is a 1967 Camaro that was a repo. Almost everything was stripped from it, including the grill, so a 1968 grill was installed.

Jon, I am having trouble with my scanner. Can you please post a couple more of the pictures I sent you of this car.  I know there is the rear shot in the driveway and an action shot from the 1968 Trans Am at Meadowdale with Ralph Webb driving.



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« Reply #190 on: November 11, 2012, 01:50:31 AM »

To the best of my knowledge, the car has not been located. The car was sold to Allen Hewitt who also raced it in Trans-Am but who it went to after that is unknown by me.
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« Reply #191 on: November 20, 2012, 05:12:17 PM »

Here's a photo of the Gagnon Spring sponsored Camaro as seen at St. Jovite in a support race for either the USAC Indy race in August, or the F1 Grand Prix in September 1968. Francois Favreau was the driver.


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« Reply #192 on: January 01, 2013, 12:51:50 PM »

Here are two photos sent to me by Mike Scott from Canada. They were taken by a friend of his named Adam Papp.


The Rick Stevens (ex-Mo Carter) Camaro, Mosport 1972.



The Rick Stevens - Robert Barg (ex-Mo Carter) Camaro, Mosport 1973.
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« Reply #193 on: January 01, 2013, 09:49:00 PM »

Thanks Mike, for supplying those photos.  The 72 photo appears to be taken at the Mo Carter unnoficial T/A Charity race (see other thread) and the 73 photo was taken at a 2 or 3 hr.Mosport club race enduro -
mechanical problems at both races. After much reasearching. Rick and I believe this car to be a rebodied Firebird shell built in the Carter shops and raced by Alfie in 71.  According to other info it is believed to
have been raced at the 71 Kent T/A race by Mo Carter.  This car was later sold to Leon Alain in late 74, who had previously raced his own 68 camaro in a few T/A races.  Leon only did a few club races before this
car was destroyed in a garage fire.

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« Reply #194 on: January 01, 2013, 10:30:49 PM »

oops, meant to say it was believed to have been raced by Mo Carter at the 70 Kent T/A race.

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« Reply #195 on: January 02, 2013, 03:48:45 PM »

Here's a photo of Mo Carter's '69 Camaro taken at the Mosport track in 1970.
This photo was taken by Adam Papp and sent to me by Mike Scott.

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« Reply #196 on: January 02, 2013, 08:52:17 PM »

Wow, after looking at the photos of both cars they sure look the same to me?

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« Reply #197 on: April 13, 2013, 01:17:32 AM »

This photo from the January 17, 1968 issue of National Speed Sport News shows the Penske team testing their leftover '67 in mid-January 1968. This is the car that
Donohue used for the West Coast T/A races in the fall of '67 (note this car still has the '67 paint job with the stripes on it). They did not end up running a 2-car team
at Daytona, opting to just use their new '68 car instead. That decision would not play out in their favor. (Jon Mello Collection)

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« Reply #198 on: April 19, 2013, 12:05:38 AM »

The dark green Alan Green sponsored '67 Z-28 driven by Skip Scott. Skip won the "big bore" race at Kent, WA on June 30, 1968.
This is the same car driven by Gary Gove and Jerry Grant during the '67 season.


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« Reply #199 on: May 16, 2013, 12:01:28 AM »

Pics of the Camaro driven by Curt Martin at the Sept 18-20, 1970 races at Ontario Motor Speedway, courtesy of John Ryals.
This car appears to be (visually) the same car that Bob West drove at the 1970 Laguna Seca Trans-Am, April 19, 1970.


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« Reply #200 on: May 16, 2013, 06:45:17 AM »

Interesting roof stripes.
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« Reply #201 on: May 16, 2013, 02:54:49 PM »

I like this Yellow 69.
Hood Tachometer.
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« Reply #202 on: May 20, 2013, 10:14:31 PM »

Here we have some very nice photos courtesy of Gene Fisher who took these at the 1970 Watkins Glen Trans-Am.
Many thanks to Gene for sharing these with us.

Jerry Thompson's Owens-Corning Camaro lined up on the false grid.

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Cars on the false grid for morning warm up. Dean Gregson's #28, Larry Drover's #11 and Warren Tope's #70 the most apparent of the bunch.

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A different angle.

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The pace lap with Jones and Donohue on the front row. This shot is taken at "the Chute" which is at the far end of the course.

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First lap, Jones leads Donohue.

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Second lap, Jones is putting some distance on his competitors.

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Elford and Sam Posey prepare to go by the Camaros of Craig Fisher and Vince Gimondo.

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Warren Agor's Camaro engine is smoking.

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The Camaros of Dick Brown and Jerry Thompson.

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« Reply #203 on: May 22, 2013, 12:20:48 AM »

Also from the 1970 Watkins Glen Trans-Am... #12 is Dick Young from Valley Stream, NY and was sponsored by McVeigh Chevrolet in Valley Stream, NY.

"I didn't have time to focus real good as old #12 was heading for us at 80 or 90 MPH, the only thing between us was a 4ft high woven wire fence and a fairly good embankment. I turned to run between nose in parked cars and my only thought was that #12 would come thru the fence, smash into the cars, and I would be squashed like an insect. Talking to some other fans after this, #12 stopped just short of the fence."


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« Reply #204 on: May 22, 2013, 02:15:17 AM »

This is the race that at least 3 of us got on the grid at the last minute only because several guys blew their engines in the morning warm-up session.  Our car
had been overheated in the Bryar paddock (dns) and owner Al had to cobble another engine together.  I missed the Mid-Ohio race because of the Bryar problem. Several guys
also had to go home on the trailer because they didn' qualify (limited grid by the promoter)


It rained for some time during this Glen race but I have no memory of this.  I think I drove the whole race on dry tires.   At one time I had a tape of this race but
can't find it - was done by the man who did several Nascar races also (the name escapes me).

The Glen was a high speed track and very challenging.

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« Reply #205 on: May 22, 2013, 09:25:04 AM »

gene, thanks for getting those great photos from the glen, to jon. canada was certainly well represented at this race !

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« Reply #206 on: May 23, 2013, 09:44:22 AM »

The Watkins Glen grid sheet shown above has some errors in it. Robert Barg, Francois Guertin  and Warren Fairbanks were all in '67 Camaros, not '69s.  Dave Lawler and Paul Nichter were in '68 Camaros.
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« Reply #207 on: June 06, 2013, 11:22:57 PM »

Canadian racer Al Mason's Z/28 from fall 1968. (Jon Mello Collection)
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« Reply #208 on: June 07, 2013, 02:33:02 AM »

This photo is from the Canadian Touring Car Championship race that wknd. - won by Mo Carter, then Al Mason, Peter Schwartzott, Jean-Guy Roy, Doug Weaver, Francois Favreau, and myself in 7th.  All except
Weaver and Mason ran in some T/A races.  Weaver drove a camaro - might have come from Michigan and later became a well known Corvette racer?  Don't remember him racing a camaro any other time at Harewood or Mosport.

The CTC races were Canada's version of the T/A races.

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« Reply #209 on: June 07, 2013, 12:47:23 PM »

This photo is from the Canadian Touring Car Championship race that wknd. - won by Mo Carter, then Al Mason, Peter Schwartzott, Jean-Guy Roy, Doug Weaver, Francois Favreau, and myself in 7th.  All except
Weaver and Mason ran in some T/A races.  Weaver drove a camaro - might have come from Michigan and later became a well known Corvette racer?  Don't remember him racing a camaro any other time at Harewood or Mosport.

The CTC races were Canada's version of the T/A races.

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Robert, you may be thinking of Ron Weaver. He was from Michigan and drove an A Production Corvette during the era when the Owens Corning Corvettes were dominating.
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« Reply #210 on: June 07, 2013, 02:20:48 PM »

Yes, that sounds right - Ron Weaver was the Corvette driver.  Will try and find out more info re Doug Weaver and his camaro.

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« Reply #211 on: June 18, 2013, 12:08:17 AM »

Chad pointed out to me that Flickr now has photos from the Dave Friedman Collection on its website.
The link below has images from both the 1967 Sebring 12-Hour and the Sebring 4-Hour Trans-Am
intermingled together. Lots of great stuff here.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/thehenryford/sets/72157632877165631/
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« Reply #212 on: June 19, 2013, 12:14:49 AM »

Here's a photo personally taken by Mike Scott (group/7) back in 1969 at the St. Jovite/Mt. Tremblant Trans-Am race.
It shows Donohue's car after rolling off the scales, which is part of the tech inspection of each car prior to the race.
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« Reply #213 on: June 19, 2013, 08:20:10 PM »

Nice shorts!
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« Reply #214 on: June 22, 2013, 10:36:38 AM »

Lothar Motschenbacher was brought in to drive the John Martin #4 Javelin at the '69 St. Jovite Trans-Am. Here is his car
in the line for getting weighed. Lothar had a solid 4th place finish, however this was the race with the huge crash that
took out 3/4 of the factory-backed Mustang team, plus others. Thanks to Mike Scott (group/7) for sharing this with us.


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« Reply #215 on: June 23, 2013, 10:24:00 PM »

Mike Scott pointed out these interesting Can-Am photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/buell/sets/72157627941013859/
that interestingly included an interior shot of one of the ex-Jim Hall Camaros. This would possibly be the Mo Carter car due to
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« Reply #216 on: June 27, 2013, 08:03:49 PM »

jon, thanks for posting those photos for me, sorry for not getting back to you with the proper link on that shot of the ex chaparral camaro ! was away and did not get back till late yesterday.

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« Reply #217 on: June 27, 2013, 10:32:30 PM »

Was the gauge cluster an over the counter fiberglass piece?
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« Reply #218 on: June 27, 2013, 10:51:21 PM »

You're welcome, Mike.

I'm remembering the Chaparral Camaro dash as being metal not plastic. I'll have to ask around to be sure.
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« Reply #219 on: June 28, 2013, 10:02:09 AM »

I stand corrected. The piece that holds the gauges is fiberglass.
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« Reply #220 on: July 08, 2013, 12:02:54 AM »

I received some very nice black & white photos today from Don Struke. He took these at the 1967 Marlboro Trans-Am,
the first victory for Penske Racing on the Trans-Am circuit. Many thanks to Don for sharing these photos with us. We
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« Reply #221 on: July 19, 2013, 05:26:18 AM »

Wow, great site  Smiley

My dad, Robert Clemens, raced his Silver #71 1970 Camaro in the Trans-Am Series in 71 and 72.
Here is a picture of his car...1971 at Watkins Glen.
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« Reply #222 on: July 19, 2013, 04:51:05 PM »

Hi Robin,

In case you missed it, there is a story about this car on the HTA site under roster.  I remember this car from racing against it at the 72 Glen T/A race.

I can also remember your dad racing at Waterford Hills, but can't recall in what car(s).

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« Reply #223 on: July 19, 2013, 10:14:34 PM »

Neat looking car!!
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« Reply #224 on: July 19, 2013, 11:13:58 PM »

Wow, great site  Smiley

My dad, Robert Clemens, raced his Silver #71 1970 Camaro in the Trans-Am Series in 71 and 72.
Here is a picture of his car...1971 at Watkins Glen.
-Robin Clemens  (aka: Robin Banks)

Thanks for the compliment. It nice to have you join us Robin. Pretty neat to have a
dad who raced a nicely prepared Camaro in Trans-Am back in the "Glory Days". Smiley
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« Reply #225 on: August 22, 2013, 09:10:40 AM »

Here's a picture I saw at the 2013 Monterey Historics. It shows Mark Donohue riding as a passenger in a '62 Corvette.
I suspect this is for a parade lap of the drivers before the '69 Laguna Seca Trans-Am race.
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« Reply #226 on: August 22, 2013, 10:40:32 AM »

The dark green Alan Green sponsored '67 Z-28 driven by Skip Scott. Skip won the "big bore" race at Kent, WA on June 30, 1968.
This is the same car driven by Gary Gove and Jerry Grant during the '67 season.


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Jon I know you said this was a 67... however was it rebodied as a 68? No vent windows 68 grille and marker lights?
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« Reply #227 on: August 22, 2013, 09:02:48 PM »

James, it for sure is a '67 but they put '68 doors on it, a '68 grille and side marker lights to make it looks like the current year model for the '68 season.
It's been returned to a '67 look and is currently owned and raced by Tony Hart... http://www.historictransam.com/Drivers/TonyHart67Camaro7.html
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« Reply #228 on: August 24, 2013, 10:13:50 AM »

James, it for sure is a '67 but they put '68 doors on it, a '68 grille and side marker lights to make it looks like the current year model for the '68 season.
It's been returned to a '67 look and is currently owned and raced by Tony Hart... http://www.historictransam.com/Drivers/TonyHart67Camaro7.html

The recent photos I remembered had the vent windows and other 67 cues, I was hoping there was a missing 68 Alan Green car to be found. Sad
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« Reply #229 on: August 24, 2013, 10:31:32 AM »

James, it for sure is a '67 but they put '68 doors on it, a '68 grille and side marker lights to make it looks like the current year model for the '68 season.
It's been returned to a '67 look and is currently owned and raced by Tony Hart... http://www.historictransam.com/Drivers/TonyHart67Camaro7.html
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« Reply #230 on: August 24, 2013, 01:40:17 PM »

The original color of the car was Capri Cream (off-white) and the stripes were just green in the center with the pinstripes still in black. For some reason it was not returned to that original color scheme. Very late in the '67 season the car was painted dark green with white stripes. There was a second '67 Z-28 that had sponsorship from Alan Green but only for the '67 Sebring race. This was the white with black stripe car of Phil Seaborn. Phil painted the car orange with some black accent work later in '67. The whereabouts of that car are unknown. Ken Deckman also had a '67 Z that he bought from Alan Green Chevrolet and raced in Trans-Am but it was not an officially sponsored Alan Green car. That car is Marina Blue with white stripes and is currently owned by Bob Morton.
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« Reply #231 on: September 28, 2013, 11:00:43 AM »

Here's a shot of the Washburn Chevrolet sponsored '67 Z-28 at speed. Tony Settember was the driver and Bob Joehnck was the crew chief/team manager.
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« Reply #232 on: October 05, 2013, 01:50:57 PM »

jon, the above shot of the washburn car would that be '69 or '70 or later ? going by the hood. do you know if this was a trans-am race or a regional. just looking at A sedan on the door..

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« Reply #233 on: October 05, 2013, 03:44:26 PM »

Mike, the car always had the AS painted on the door whether it race Trans-Am or A/Sedan races.  This is the only photo that I have ever seen where this car was using the ZL2 hood. I think it may have been taken at the '69 Santa Barbara road races but don't know that for a fact.
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« Reply #234 on: November 18, 2013, 11:00:29 PM »

Here is a neat shot of a 1970 Penske Sunoco Javelin Trans Am race car from the 1970 Chicago Auto Show which took place between February 21st and March 1st 1970.  Does anyone know if this is the car that participated in the 24 hours of Daytona a few weeks earlier or is it is just a show car?  It doesn't seem to have the same wheels that were on it during the 24 hours of Daytona nor does it have the extra road lights across the bumper or the lights that illuminated the side numbers at night.  It also is displaying #6 instead of the #0 run at Daytona, but these are things that could have been altered after the race in order to make it perfect for the show and be more representative of the way the car would look in the months ahead during the Trans Am season.  If this isn't the Daytona car or just a show car, does anybody know if this particular car ran any Trans Am races?

I live in Chicago and go to the Auto Show every year and I have seen several manufacturers display cars that actually participated in the 24 hours of Daytona just a few weeks before, so I was interested in finding out the history behind this car.  Thanks for any info provided.

You can find the picture here: http://www.chicagoautoshow.com/history/1970/
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« Reply #235 on: November 20, 2013, 09:27:06 PM »

The show car doesn't have widened fenders either. The body looks stock. I'm sure that's just a show car.
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« Reply #236 on: November 29, 2013, 08:26:20 PM »

Here is a cool color photo taken by John Losee during the 1967 Daytona 24 hour Continental on February 4/5, 1967.  In it you can see the 1967 Penske Camaro of Mark Donohue sandwiched by a Ford GT40 and the Ferrari 365 P2/3 of David Piper just as they head off the main straight past pit-out.  See this picture and several others taken during the race here: http://www.thevrl.com/photo/albums/daytona-24-hours-1967-1?test-locale=&exposeKeys=&xg_pw=&xgsi=&id=1465153%3AAlbum%3A223088&groupId=&groupUrl=&xgi=&commentPage=&page=1

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« Reply #237 on: November 29, 2013, 10:25:22 PM »

I know that the 1970 Sebring 12 Hours wasn't a Trans Am race but I couldn't resist posting this cool picture of the #43 1969 Camaro of John Tremblay and Bill McDill in pit lane with the hood up.  It is part of the Dave Friedman Collection at The Henry Ford.  A larger and clearer version can be seen here: http://thehenryford.artehouse.com/perl/magnify_popup.pl?imageID=153393&staticImage=C&ckon=image&alt=0

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« Reply #238 on: November 30, 2013, 01:05:31 AM »

Scott, Mark Donohue was actually driving one of the Ford GT MkIIs during the Daytona 24-Hour race so
Penske had George Wintersteen, Joe Welch and Bobby Brown signed up to drive the Camaro in that event.
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« Reply #239 on: December 02, 2013, 12:43:35 AM »

Here's a picture of Canadian Laurie Craig's black '67 RS Z-28. This was taken at the 6-25-67 Westwood, BC races.
Laurie entered this car in the Kent 300 Trans-Am race later that year. The current whereabouts of the car are not
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« Reply #240 on: December 02, 2013, 12:13:46 PM »

Great shot... Looks like at was street driven too.
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« Reply #241 on: December 02, 2013, 01:03:56 PM »

jon, thanks for posting for me ! Mo it was street driven, have a shot of it before the cage went in. jon, have some stuff on the craig/mander '67 Z-28. that I found on the net. you might already have it ? if not, I could send it to you.

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« Reply #242 on: December 02, 2013, 03:20:20 PM »

Laurie Craig's racing bio can be seen at this link: http://www.gvmps.org/inductees/laurie_craig.htm

Phil Dauphinee's website at http://public.fotki.com/phildaupho/strata_painting_options/laurie-craig-67-cam/
has some really neat historical photos of Laurie's car plus a cool scale model of the car that he built. When I
spoke with Laurie on the phone, he told me they stopped the train that was carrying the Z-28 from the Norwood
plant to the dealership so they could get a good look at the car. It was an early Z but not the first one exported
to Canada as claimed in the bio.
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« Reply #243 on: December 02, 2013, 05:20:52 PM »

thanks jon, for those links for the laurie craig camaro info. that's some of what I had. are those americans on the car in street trim ? centre cap looks large.

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« Reply #244 on: December 02, 2013, 05:29:03 PM »

heres a link to a photo of the craig/mander '67 Z'der at the dealer in north vancouver, british columbia. it's about 3/4's of the way down the page.

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« Reply #245 on: December 02, 2013, 05:30:46 PM »

hmm ! link works, but photo is distorted, sorry 'bout that

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« Reply #246 on: December 02, 2013, 07:00:38 PM »

Mike, it did not look distorted when I looked at the link to the webpage.
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« Reply #247 on: December 08, 2013, 03:41:55 AM »

Mike, it did not look distorted when I looked at the link to the webpage.

Great pics. I live very close to where that dealer used to be. Too bad it is long gone now.
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« Reply #248 on: December 08, 2013, 03:58:18 AM »

Mike, it did not look distorted when I looked at the link to the webpage.

Great pics. I live very close to where that dealer used to be. Too bad it is long gone now.

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« Reply #249 on: December 08, 2013, 09:27:30 AM »

I'm not sure there are any more body accessories that could be added to that Mander Super Hugger Camaro!  Seriously though, I've never heard of this one.  Are there any out there?  Thanks Mike for the link and thanks Jon and 69Z28Freak for posting the photos from it.
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« Reply #250 on: December 08, 2013, 09:29:58 AM »

Here's a link to a thread about the Mander Super Hugger Camaro at the Supercar Registry: http://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=322279  No more pics though.
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« Reply #251 on: December 08, 2013, 09:48:14 AM »

I thought I recognized the picture in the Mander Super Huger Camaro ad.  The car is wearing the custom bolt on accessories that were available from the AMT Corporation Speed and Custom Division through Chevy dealers.  A member named BLUETOPPACE posted the entire catalog over at the Camaro Pace Car site.  See all of the pics on pages 2 and 3 here: http://camaropacecars.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2510094833/m/2330062215/p/2 

Not sure if Mander used the parts on their own Super Hugger or they just used a stock photo for their ad suggesting what a custom built car could look like.

By the way, that thread also has pictures and info on some very rare and unique Mod Topped Camaros.  Someone named "Jon/1967Z28" posted a cool picture and some info on the Mod Topped 25th 1967 Z28 on pages 7 and 8 of this old thread.  Jon Mello were these your contributions?  If so, I never made the connection. LOL!  The  Check out the whole thing if you are intertested.
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« Reply #252 on: December 08, 2013, 11:38:52 AM »

Scott, yes that we me who posted that other stuff. The car in the Mander ad above is the same car on the AMT brochure cover and the shot was taken on AMT's lot in Phoenix. It is therefore not an actual Mander Super Hugger although Mander may have purchased the scoops and made their own car look similar. The AMT car was built for a newscaster in the Phoenix area and it's current whereabouts are unknown.
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« Reply #253 on: December 08, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »

I thought I recognized the picture in the Mander Super Huger Camaro ad.  The car is wearing the custom bolt on accessories that were available from the AMT Corporation Speed and Custom Division through Chevy dealers.  A member named BLUETOPPACE posted the entire catalog over at the Camaro Pace Car site.  See all of the pics on pages 2 and 3 here: http://camaropacecars.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/2510094833/m/2330062215/p/2 

Not sure if Mander used the parts on their own Super Hugger or they just used a stock photo for their ad suggesting what a custom built car could look like.

By the way, that thread also has pictures and info on some very rare and unique Mod Topped Camaros.  Someone named "Jon/1967Z28" posted a cool picture and some info on the Mod Topped 25th 1967 Z28 on pages 7 and 8 of this old thread.  Jon Mello were these your contributions?  If so, I never made the connection. LOL!  The  Check out the whole thing if you are intertested.

Yes that was me who posted the Mod Top photos in that thread. The sixties produced some very unique car ideas which reflected the fashion of the times. It is interesting however that I have never seen any of these modified or speciality prepared cars. I think those cars were so far over the top, that when the sixties ended, so did the desire to be that loud and outrageous. If any of those cars still remain, they surely were painted and returned to a more conservative look. Would be cool however to find some of these cars intact. Since these cars were modified from show room models, I assume that there is no way to document the specialty modified cars, other than perhaps photos from back in the day.My guess is that back in the day, there were a select group of Camaro owners who took their new Camaros into these shops and got some crazy looks applied to their cars. I wonder how many cars in total received these type of treatments. If anyone has anymore info please feel free to post away.
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« Reply #254 on: December 08, 2013, 03:45:00 PM »

The internet is such a small world isn't it.  I'm glad that everybody with knowledge of different parts of the car hobby can work together to answer questions and figure things out.   
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« Reply #255 on: December 08, 2013, 03:48:16 PM »

While I don't mind talking about unique and special cars built by various Chevy dealerships, a discussion along those lines should be in its own thread and we need to guide this thread back to vintage, original photos of Trans-Am cars from the late '60s and early '70s. Thanks.
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« Reply #256 on: December 08, 2013, 07:31:33 PM »

Sorry for the high jack John. There is already a thread going on such cars.
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« Reply #257 on: January 03, 2014, 05:26:20 PM »

While searching for something else on the internet I stumbled on this cover for the January 1971 edition of Stock Car Racing magazine which features a pit stop for the 1970 Penske Javelin of Mark Donohue.  It mentions an article entitled, "Javelin: A Racing Success Story."  I don't recall seeing this cover.  I searched through the 1970 and 1971 season review threads and didn't notice it.  If it is here somewhere, sorry for the repost.  If not, does anyone have this magazine or the article?  I found the picture at a web site that shows the covers for most editions of Stock Car Racing magazine issued between 1966 and 2008.  See them here: http://home.comcast.net/~racestats/SCRMag.html
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« Reply #258 on: February 21, 2014, 09:34:22 AM »

Here's an ebay auction with a photo of Ed Leslie, Jim Hall and part of a Chaparral Camaro in the foreground. Taken at the 1970 Lime Rock Trans-Am race.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Ed-Leslie-Jim-Hall-Chevy-Camaro-Lime-Rock-Park-SCCA-Trans-AM-35mm-slide-/291082960945?pt=US_Racing_Fan_Shop&hash=item43c5e58031
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« Reply #259 on: February 21, 2014, 01:43:34 PM »

jon, great photo ! looks like the car is coming through tech, post race. can of bud on the hood, and a sweaty ed leslie. that's troy rogers leaning on the car with cap, who we lost in may of last year. hall's main fabricator, he was responsible for the build of the chaparrals, and also pretty much restored the cars for the petroleum museum in midland. and sandy hall in the pale yellow jacket.

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« Reply #260 on: February 22, 2014, 01:35:14 AM »

Mike, thanks for the added detail of who some of the other people were in that photo.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Jim-Hall-Chevrolet-Camaro-Lime-Rock-Park-SCCA-Trans-AM-race-35mm-slide-/301100157546?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
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« Reply #261 on: May 08, 2014, 08:29:52 AM »

Harley Davidson legend Cal Rayborn raced a '67 Z-28 for a short time and had it entered in the '69 Riverside Trans-Am. It ran during
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« Reply #262 on: May 17, 2014, 06:34:35 PM »

In the pits at the Donnybrooke Trans Am in 1971. Warren Fairbanks' Camaro #96, Jerry Lagod's Camaro #44 and John McComb's Mustang #33.
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