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Question: I own a 1969 BB stamped "KC", any others out there exsist???
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« on: February 28, 2011, 09:30:51 PM »

Hi!  I'm new here, so I hope I'm in the right page.  My question is, On your Engine application suffix codes.  States, "engine codes
reserved with the "MA-6" option, (heavy duty) clutch.  Says, (none known to have been produced.  I own a 1969 SS/RS 396/375,
4-speed, Camaro.    Block pad stamped "T-0215KC".  Doesn't this de-code as stated??  Please advise...thanks!!
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 10:39:19 PM »

Could you post a picture of the pad?

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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2011, 07:47:39 PM »

Give me a few days and I'll take a pic of it and post.  Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2011, 07:55:34 PM »

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7634.0

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2011, 10:05:18 PM »

I'm just stating what's "stamped" on my big block.  I've read alot of report findings in books and articles alike, and there were alot of Camaros built with odd ball options. I doubt everything was doucumented that was going out the door.  I have a X-22 Camaro that is stamped on the front pad "KC" and which is not a "re-stamp".  I seems all the comments are being made on what everybody has read, well, I have the real thing
right in front of me.  Even on the car shows on TV, they say that alot of different cars were made and not accounted for.  Who knows I guess.......
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2011, 07:32:42 PM »

Camaroman, just curious: how do you know it's not a restamp?  I'm curious to see a pic.  I have an L78 with a "KA" stamp that some literature says was for the L78 and other literature says only for L34.  CRG data says L34.  It's undoubtedly an L78 (visually verifed 4-bolt main caps).  I have some that say it is an authentic stamp and others who say restamp.  I would be curious to see a pic of your stamp. Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2011, 09:05:37 PM »

Camaroman

 Huh      I  believe I posted a comment last week that may have been removed....I am not sure as it it not here.
 
In the post is said      'don't hold your breath waiting for a pic'
What I really meant to say was that 'I am holding my breath waiting for a pic'

If my post was removed because it was inappropriate, I apologize.   If I have alzheimers and never made the post, just entirely disregard anything I post.     Huh
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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2011, 11:23:38 PM »

Hi!  I'm new here and post was not removed by me.  I joined the group for further knowledge in the 1969 Camaro hobby.  I grew up with this era car and have always admired the car for its power and looks.  I have pics of the pad on the supposedly "KC" stamped block.  Just having a hard time "up-loading them.  I got to thinking, just say block isn't a true "KC" stamped block.  Why would someone stamp that particular "lettering"Huh  Who knows..........otherwise, I believe
block could be a "JH" block, 396/manual trans.  Block pad has paint on it and alternator is in the way, but I'm going to get a closer look at it Sunday.  We just finished this car, 7 year project, all orginal correct car.   Don
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2011, 01:05:31 AM »

Gary,
I pulled that post. I didn't find that comment constructive, esp towards a new member. 
I see enough BS on other sites that I want to keep the positive tone that this forum always has. Smiley

No worries...
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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2011, 07:03:21 AM »

Camaroman 1969, the photos to upload have to be less than 100kb (pretty small) or they won't upload.  Try emailing one to yourself and when the PC asks if you want to shrink it to a smaller size, click on the smallest size (hopefully less than 100kb) Then save that emailed photo to your desktop and then try uploading that one to the post.

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2011, 09:33:41 AM »

You might also want to start a 'web Album' There are lots of programs that allow you to upload a large file to the Web to keep important pics available. Picassa is free from Gogle, Webshots is another. Then you can link to the picture and it wil bring up a separate picture of any size, in a separate browser window.  A little tricky at first but gets easier.

Yes a pic is worth a thousand words...
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2011, 10:38:02 AM »

Camaroman 1969, the photos to upload have to be less than 100kb (pretty small) or they won't upload. 
Actually, the size limit on this forum is 150 kb per picture.
4 attachments per post max and the total of all of them can't be more than 300 KB.
 
If you resize the pics right, they don't have to be big files to be clear. Just downsize them to 700 or 800 pixels wide and keep the jpg quality factor lower (50 or 60 is fine). The jpg quality factor is key - it takes up a lot of space at 80-90, but it doesn't really make a better picture. http://www.irfanview.com/ works well and stores them with a little better picture quality than some of my other photo programs and is free.
And remember to crop the pictures first. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2011, 01:40:44 PM »

Or link it to a picture hosting site like PHOTOBUCKET. It's free and there's no limitation on size. You can then copy the direct IMG code and paste it here.

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2011, 03:53:26 PM »

I have pics of the pad on the supposedly "KC" stamped block.  Just having a hard time "up-loading them.  

It took me forever to figure out how to post pics on this site so don't feel alone. Here is a link that might help. Just take your time with it. Before you know it you'll be posting pics like a pro. If you have questions after you've tried this link and you do not want to post it here feel free to send me a PM (personal message). To do this just click on "IZRSSS" at the upper left hand corner of this post. Then click on "Send This Member a Personal Message".

Good luck.



http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7215.0
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2011, 08:46:19 PM »

Camaroman

 Huh      I  believe I posted a comment last week that may have been removed....I am not sure as it it not here.
 
In the post is said      'don't hold your breath waiting for a pic'
What I really meant to say was that 'I am holding my breath waiting for a pic'

If my post was removed because it was inappropriate, I apologize.   If I have alzheimers and never made the post, just entirely disregard anything I post.     Huh
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2011, 07:40:09 PM »

Gary,  I have pic of pad stamp with the letter's "KC".   I want to post them, but having trouble
up-loading them.  I'll keep trying.  Don
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« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2011, 09:06:34 PM »

Don, if you can't post them, send them to me and I'll host them for you. My email address is in my profile.

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« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2011, 09:46:37 PM »

I hope I got it.
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« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2011, 09:47:18 PM »

More to come.
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« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2011, 09:48:34 PM »

Last of all I have.
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« Reply #20 on: June 11, 2011, 11:39:06 PM »

Sorry, but that was not stamped at Tonawanda. Sad
The gang stamp used there would not allow the T and the 0 to overlap. And the gang stamp would have held the characters in alignment.
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« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2011, 07:07:13 PM »

Kurt, I dis-agree!!!!   I talked to Jerry McNeish and he said back then anything was possible. 
Does everything have tobe "ganged" or be 100% straight tobe correct?Huh  I say no. I've seen
alot of stampings that are not straight or ganged on many cars over the years and all these
owners claim to have correct blocks.  I say more research needed  on this topic. 
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« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2011, 07:40:26 PM »

Its difficult to tell without a clearer pic, but your deck appears to be awfully smooth... Huh
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« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2011, 08:27:33 PM »

Thanks for the reply but, when looking at the pad with the naked eye, you can see the "cast surface" of the pad.  Pad's I've seen that have been decked,leave swirl tool marks on pad.  This
is what I have, and I'm leaving it like this.  Car has gone thru a frame-off restoration.  This may be my last post here.....it seems like you have to have a perfect car to chat here.  Later......
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« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2011, 10:34:37 PM »

Thanks for the reply but, when looking at the pad with the naked eye, you can see the "cast surface" of the pad.  Pad's I've seen that have been decked,leave swirl tool marks on pad.  This
is what I have, and I'm leaving it like this.  Car has gone thru a frame-off restoration.  This may be my last post here.....it seems like you have to have a perfect car to chat here.  Later......

My car isn't perfect.  I know the transmission is not numbers matching. The block casting date and engine stamp don't jive.  The members of this forum have helped me prove it is a X33 D80 car.   Members on this site have a wealth of knowledge about the first generation Camaro and I thank every member here for that knowledge.  Maybe you need to get Jerry to certify the car.

Good luck with your project and be safe!

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2011, 10:44:02 PM »

One more thing, I have to agree with Marty and say I don't see the broach marks.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2011, 10:49:43 PM »

Gentlemen, I doubt we'll ever hear from Don again so there's no reason to continue. He didn't get the answer he wanted so he'll probably not reply. I also doubt he'll get Jerry to certify the car since Jerry would confirm it's a restamp and again, it's not what he wants to hear.

Let's just let this one fade to black and concentrait on other things.

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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2011, 09:37:04 AM »

Kurt, I dis-agree!!!!   I talked to Jerry McNeish and he said back then anything was possible. 
Does everything have tobe "ganged" or be 100% straight tobe correct?Huh  I say no. I've seen
alot of stampings that are not straight or ganged on many cars over the years and all these
owners claim to have correct blocks.  I say more research needed  on this topic. 
And what was Jerry's comments on this particular stamp??
Sorry to not tell you what you want to hear, but the research has already been done, both in the Camaro world and by NCRS.
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