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« on: January 14, 2011, 09:12:30 PM »

You could not order two options on a 1st gen. Z, an automactic transmission or air conditioning.   Would a convertible be considered an option?   

Rally stripes came on Z's and Z10's and Z11's.   Could you order them on any other Camaros?   
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2011, 09:30:32 PM »

I believe they were available on any Camaro.
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2011, 09:35:39 PM »

I believe they were available on any Camaro.

If someone purchased a new Camaro, they could order rally stripes no matter what?
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2011, 09:38:37 PM »

I was just reading and it was the D90 (ss stripe) not ralley stripes. Sorry.
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2011, 09:47:28 PM »

You could not order two options on a 1st gen. Z, an automactic transmission or air conditioning.   Would a convertible be considered an option?   

Yes, a convertible top was an option (UPC C05).  So that's three option you couldn't order with a Z28...    Wink

Rally stripes came on Z's and Z10's and Z11's.   Could you order them on any other Camaros?   

Rally stripes were not an option, therefore they on came on Z10s, Z11s and Z28s...    Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2011, 09:50:12 PM »

Convertibles weren't options, they were models. C05 was used to indicate what color top you wanted when you purchased a convertible (Note the price of NC - No Charge).

And no, the stripes weren't available on any other model other than what's already been stated.

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2011, 09:54:23 PM »

Ed, what's UPC C05?    Huh

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2011, 09:55:04 PM »

Thanks Ed,  I got into a disagreement with someone and needed some backup.   Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2011, 09:57:36 PM »

Paul.

Ed, what's UPC C05?    Huh

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Convertibles weren't options, they were models. C05 was used to indicate what color top you wanted when you purchased a convertible (Note the price of NC - No Charge).

And no, the stripes weren't available on any other model other than what's already been stated.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2011, 10:26:29 PM »

Paul, you must have posted as I was editing my post to include what the C05 meant! I figured someone would ask!!

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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 10:31:30 PM »

Paul, you must have posted as I was editing my post to include what the C05 meant! I figured someone would ask!!

Yes I did!  Thanks for your lightning fast responses!    Smiley

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2011, 12:31:38 PM »

I am wondering.  If I really really wanted a Z/28 convertible, or a Z/28 automatic or Z/28 with AC, could I have gotten one if I was willing to pay a premium or sign off that the AC would not be warranted.  I suppose the issue was never tested because if you really wanted these items on a sporty Camaro, you just got and SS instead.  However, they did build that Z/28 convertible for Pete Estes.  So, I had a time machine and walked into a dealership and plunked down the full sticker price and say an additional $500 for "convenience", could I have gotten a convertible Z/28? 

I'll bet if I went to Gibb Chevrolet at the right time I could have gotten him to change one of those 50 ZL1's to a convertible RS with JL8, power windows and factory AC.  Tell me I'm not the only one that would do that if we had a time machine. 

I can only think it never happened because no one really tried.   
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2011, 01:18:55 PM »

Keep in mind that a ZL-1 Camaro was already double the price of a normal Camaro performance model, well into the 8 Grand area. To get one as a convertible, RS, a/c, etc would make it even more expensive and they had trouble selling them just as they were. Some got sold at discounts, other had the exotic engine replaced with a more pedestrian one, just to get them sold. Some special Camaros did get built such as the '69 Z for Jean Claude Killy and a '70 for Glen Campbell. If you were a high profile celebrity who could bring some prestige to Chevrolet, then something might get done. The ZL-1s got built to allow the engine to be accepted in drag racing. That was the sole focus of that program and in fact the black & gold deluxe version they contemplated was aborted due to the feeling they would be too expensive to sell.

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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2011, 01:25:15 PM »

Not only what Jon said, but people didn't walk into the dealership to buy a Z28 because they wanted "conveniences". They bought a Z28 to race! Most Z28's were stripped down cars to keep the weight down. Nothing but the basics.

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2011, 01:27:43 PM »

It wasn't a matter of not trying. The Zone would just kick the order back to the dealer. In the book about his time at GM DeLorean states that up to 30% of all new car orders were incorrect. They did not have the resources to deal with BS like that. Back in '69 one of the pulp car mags tried to order a black '69 SS with no D90. Chevy refused the order. There is often an engineering reason for limiting equipment availability. Both track pace cars were converted to JL-8 for some reason. Why weren't they built with it?

Don't confuse Pete Estes with the average guy. He was General Manager of Chevy in '68; he could get what he wanted. He is in large part responsible for the ZL-1 Camaro; his name is on the broadcast sheets for #1 & #2. He left as GM February '69; De Lorean took over what turned out to be quite a mess. He did an excellent job of turning Chevy around.

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