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'67-'69 Radiators
« on: January 09, 2011, 06:47:20 PM »
Were the '67-'69 CAMARO "Harrison"(21"-23" and 2"-2 3/4 thick) radiators found in other GM cars??  The '68-'72 Nova has the about the same sub frame, is it possible that these same radiators were also discovered in these Novas also??  However, I don't think the core support is the same on the top side of the Nova(considering only the area covering the radiator attachment).  Is it also possible some of the earlier Chevy II's('66 & '67 had these CAMARO radiators??  I don't think any of these '67-69 CAMARO radiators were carried over to the 2nd Gen(only the '70 & '71 Camaros.  Any help or pictures please.

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2011, 08:42:37 PM »
I've seen very few Camaro radiators shared with Nova. None with other carlines.
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2011, 10:21:08 PM »
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 02:55:01 AM »
Thank you KurtS and JohnW. for your input. The Camaro Forum on cooling systems is not informative at all about other than '67-'69 Camaro models and their specific engine. The 6cyl., the 327, the 350 and the 396 came in Chevy II's & Novas(in the same hp ratings that were in the Camaros).  All I was asking about was that "did radiators of the same dimensions, thicknesses, and physical appearances" also come, or were available in, ChevyII's('66 & '67), or in Novas('68-'72), because of 'over runs' and were carried over to '70 & '71 Camaros.  I have heard, but not physically seen in a car, that this is true. Checking old Chevrolet Parts Manuals however indicate that this was an option, possibly only used on a replacement basis at Chevrolet agencies(ie.- 375hp/396ci Novas).

In addition, were ALL '67-'69 Camaro radiators 'embossed' with the "HARRISON" logo(ie.- COPO cars). The reproduction attempt of the "HARRISON" name is not very close to the original, and leaves room for some improvement.

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 03:40:50 AM »
I believe the 2nd gen Camaro had a redesigned radiator.
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 02:44:27 PM »
IIRC, only some of the 396 Nova's shared Camaro radiators.
Every Camaro rad was a Harrison and had the name embossed on the tank.
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 03:20:12 PM »
Which Novas and which year??  Again thanks, Merv

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 03:24:41 PM »
Currently restoring a '67 '4p' car that is all original GM(above trim tag). Pics of the Camaro are too big to post--got to figure out how to reduce them. Just updated to 'Windows 7' and I'm kinda lost for now.  Merv

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 03:46:32 PM »
I checked both my 1969 Hollander and 1969 Mitchell interchange manuals and the only true interchange for the 67-69 Camaro is the 67-69 Firebird. However, there's a note in the Mitchell interchange manual that says the 68 and 69 Nova will interchange "by switching outlet tanks as necessary".

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 04:39:27 PM »
Thanks for your input.  I'm going to do some more 'archive searching' and will report back what, if anything I find out.  Merv

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2011, 04:54:58 AM »
The only Firebird rads that interchange are the L6 F-birds use some of the same the Camaro L6 and small blocks. None of the V8 Firebirds rads are the same.
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2011, 03:33:23 PM »
I've posted the page from the Mitchell Interchange below for future reference.

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« Last Edit: January 12, 2011, 03:57:13 PM by bertfam »

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2011, 05:00:50 PM »
ED, I really appreciate the interchange info concerning the specific Firebirds and Novas. I knew some of this was probably good info, but didn't know all the rest also applied.  I've checked several GM shop manuals, but it's extremely hard finding anything that goes back that far in time, and is an original document, and not a reprint.   Thanks, Merv

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2011, 07:11:16 PM »
You might also want to get "Chevrolet Parts Interchange manual" by Paul A. Herd. It has a few errors in it, but overall it's a pretty good reference for interchange information. Some of the radiator information even includes measurements.

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2011, 01:38:23 AM »
Where's a good place to find that manual??   B.Dalton's book stores??  Online??  Amazon??

 Thanks,  Merv

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2011, 02:14:19 AM »
Check ebay. Amazon has it, but it's NOT cheap!

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 12:57:41 PM »
I got the Paul A Herd book from a vendor at a swap brand new. Don't remember what I paid, but the price on the back cover says 24.95 US. Bertfam, can you recommend a specific version of the Mitchell or  Hollander books appropriate to a 69 Camaro?
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 02:51:15 PM »
The ones I have are both late 1969 printings and they say 1970 on them. These are fine, but of course they don't have any "newer" car interchange info in them. (In other words, will the 69 Camaro radiator interchange with the 1974 Nova.)

I would get something like a 1975 or 1976 issue. That way you could see what interchanges with later model cars.

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2011, 04:24:20 PM »
Thats exactly what I was thinking. Now to keep my eyes open at the swaps.
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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2011, 04:36:13 PM »
HERE'S a pretty good price on a 66-76 Hollander (42nd edition).

Note that the Mitchell interchange is a harder book to find, so they usually command more $$$.

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Re: '67-'69 Radiators
« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2011, 04:53:40 PM »
Note that that interchange page only lists a fraction of the radiators that were used. Yes, they'll fit (often modified per note) but they are not the same as the original part, just close. Tanks and cores will be different.
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