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« on: November 30, 2010, 05:33:10 AM »

Newbe  what a great site.  I own a 68RS that was rebuilt in 2004. The VIN is 124378N338716 for your data base. I have located the POP just now. My question is in regard to the RS option. Seems to me it was added during rebuild.

Will someone verify my  info on my POP.    Here are some of the POP location #   A-29=R   B1 to B7=V1027EA  B-15 to B-21 PE1028G   B-29=N   C-1 to C-5 = S8R10   C-15=1   C-17=3    Soid out of Miller Chevrolet in Michigan.  The car does not have the correct drive train with your help from this info maybe I can locate it Love the thrill of the hunt.  Thanks Allen.
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2010, 08:06:53 AM »

Post a pic of your POP (if possible a mirror image).

Don't understand the question and your numbering format is hard to figure out. Are you asking if your car is a RS? Please explain...

You can also decode the POP here;  http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes

Welcome to the Forum  Smiley.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2010, 09:32:58 AM »

Allen,
I broke apart your two questions to make them clearer.
Unusual car in that someone ordered the higher hp engine and a posi, but kept the base 3-speed trans. What city in MI?

V1027EA - L30 with manual trans, Oct 27
S8R10  -  Saginaw 3-speed, Oct 10
PE1028G - 3.08 10 bolt posi, Oct 28
N40 and U63 were options.

RS - see http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#rs

Marty,
He's using the #'ing shown here http://www.camaros.org/numbers.shtml#POPCodes and in the AIM.
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 09:53:04 AM »

Got ya...thanks
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 11:24:55 AM »

Thank you for the  info.  My real question was it a RS from the factory based on the POP info.  The car was sold in Grand Haven, the city is a little hard to read.  The colors were GG by the POP.  I have started to track some of the prior owners.  Thanks again ALLEN
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« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 12:30:21 PM »

If you take a look at RPO Z22 (RS Option) of the link I posted you might find the information you are looking for. The RPO's are listed on the left hand column.  

http://www.camaros.org/pdf/options.pdf
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« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 01:04:34 PM »

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My real question was it a RS from the factory based on the POP info.

Allen, the POP won't show the Z22 option, so the only way to tell a RS car from a non RS car is to do a little detective work and examine the "signs". While the RS option can be added, most people don't go through the trouble of routhing the backup lights wire (and grommet) through the trunk floor (see the picture below), so that's usually a pretty good indicator. Although you can't use this as a "for sure", it's one of the better signs that the car left the factory as an RS. You also need to look at the firewall and compare the RS piercings to what's shown in the AIM.

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« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 06:40:20 PM »

ED Thanks for the info. I do not know about the backup light wire yet but it has the grommet on the firewall with 2 holes in it for vacum hoses. The headlights have to be opened and closed by hand. There is no other headlight operateing parts on the car.  Is there anything else to verify a RS car.  The car was rebuilt without any lower body moldings. It has the wheel well mouldings.  The car has a very nice Torch red paint with black interior. Has all the upper moldings. The car has white Z stripes on hood and trunk with spoiler, with BB block hood. with chrome louvers.  So there has been some extra things done. Both the front and rear valences are correct.  Would they ever not put on the lower moulding but everything else for RS option?  Allen
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 07:17:49 PM »

Allen.
 Remove your door panels and see if there are holes filled in. (rear quarters-Front fenders also are pierced) also check if the light buckets are R/S style, check if a vacuum canister was removed, Check the light switch,
 Check if the rear panel under the bumper has been filled in. 68 R/S questions are rarely answered... We middle kids need to stick together. I am no expert but 30 plus years  of 68 R/S cars has provided me with a little insight. Any help i can provide I will.
  Good luck,
  Victor
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 07:31:59 PM »

All the physical items to check for an RS car are shown in the link that I posted, including the trunk hole and the backup light hole.
http://www.camaros.org/options.shtml#rs
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 09:17:04 PM »

Victor   The rear panel has the correct backup lights now.  The headlight backing plate is a early square hole design. The car is in cold storage now.   I live in ND along the canadian border, we are having a snow storm as we speak.   I find it odd that the POP does not tell if it had the RS option.   Check out the other things on it tomorrow  Allen
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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 09:39:36 PM »

Some friendly advice...if Core Members or Current CRG Members suggest something on this site you can pretty much take it to the bank.  All the information you need is on the link Kurt posted. Take some time to research your car...the information for your detective work is there.

In addition...If you continue your efforts with regards to the POP/RS option your search will be in vein.  Ed already stated the information isn't there.

Good Luck Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2010, 07:19:17 PM »

The link provided does not mention the R/S side molding. Three pieces per side and the fastener holes in the door. these follow the lower body line and separates the dull black from the body color.
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2010, 08:46:10 PM »

That trim was part of the z21 "style trim" which was included in the z22 RS package
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2010, 06:57:06 AM »

Tom     This car has on lower side trim at  all.     Could it come with out any when new a be a true RS?    I find these options very confusing.    Please bear with me      Allen
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