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« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2011, 06:24:49 PM »

Big surprise to me.  Some things are clear, others fuzzy. I have really enjoyed the ACA component of the GM Nationals and all the people who have worked so hard to bring us the Camaro Nationals.

I have a hotel booked at Carlisle that weekend, and was not aware of the change.  The only contact I have had is from the Carlisle Fairground.  I am not sure that the change has been well promoted as this post is buried in November posts here, and at TC, as well as NastyZ.  I have posted at all three to bring them to the top so that other members can be aware.

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« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2011, 04:39:18 PM »

Gary,

Many have done what they could to let the world know that the event was moving.  All of the personnel with ACA, judging staff, workers, etc are moving too.  Not sure what Carlisle will be doing as I suspect they will post their own spin on this year's event.  I also know that all who have attended the Camaro Nats in the past were mailed a flyer on the move and new show location.

I want to make sure that everyone knows ALL staff members who were connected with the Camaro Nationals at Carlisle will be at the Frederick Fair Grounds.

Thanks,

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« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2011, 06:05:35 PM »

Once again inaccurate information is posted. Please be sure of the facts before posting to insure other enthusiasts are not mislead.

Here's a few facts:
1) Rick has stated that the ACA, and he and Karl, are NOT involved in the planning of the MD show.
2) Steve Shauger will continue and expand his Vintage Program at Carlisle.
3) SLP and other manufactures will be attending Carlisle.
4) The GM Nationals will present a complete event with much to see and do, including a full compliment of Camaro classes judged by our professional judges.

If anyone would like straight facts without Carlisle adding a "spin" please feel free to contact me at one of my contacts below.

RickM@CarlisleEvents.com
717-243-7855 x124

Thanks everyone for staying involved and being concerned about our hobby and favorite car, the Camaro!
Rick
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2011, 08:02:02 AM »

Gary & all Camaro enthusiasts,

Once again, I will address the most accurate information about the 2011 Camaro Nationals to be held at the Frederick Fairgrounds, June 24 & 25, 2011.

The Camaro Nationals has moved this event to the Frederick Fairgrounds in Frederick, MD.  Contrary to what was posted by Rick after my last reply, Karl Sheffy and Rick Gawl have been deeply involved with the American Camaro Association Camaro Nationals in conjunction with the Maryland Camaro Club.  As a matter of fact, Rick and Karl will be attending this event on both days, Friday and Saturday to work the show and sign up new members for ACA.  Rick and Karl will be judging cars along with the many ACA judging teams who have been a part of this event for the last 12 years.  The Maryland Camaro Club has been the “host” club for the Camaro Nationals at Carlisle for several years now.  In the past, this club has been a very important part of producing this show and making it happen.  I personally have been a member in good standing with the Maryland Camaro Club now for over 22 years. 

Bob Harris of Camaro Specialties who was involved with the Vintage judging at Carlisle will also be a part of the 5000 point Concours “Legends” Team and new “Legends Vintage” Certification.  All of the past “Legend” concours judges including myself, Larry Christensen, Brad McAdam, and Troy Criscillis will be providing the same expert concours judging as we have done for many years.

Bud Scolastico will continue to run all Bow Tie 1000 point judging with his expert team of Camaro judges.  Jeff Betz will also continue to run the 2nd generation concours judging team.

Other classes include Competition, Pro Street, Custom, Touring, Modified, Mild Modified, Vintage Street Stock, Heartbeat classes and many more.

Over 1300 flyers have been mailed out to all past show participants.  You should have received a flyer in the mail.  If not, there will be more promotion for the show and move to the Frederick Fairgrounds.

I should also mention that we will now have larger indoor facilities for all concours and Bow Tie cars who attend the event in Frederick.  The indoor judging building will not be separated from the rest of the Camaro show field as it was during the last two years at Carlisle.  There were communication and judging issues in 2009 and 2010 separating the Camaro show field from Y building where the concours judging took place.  That will not be problem this year.  In 2009, there were complaints from participants at the show stating that many did not know there was concours judging going on in Y building due to the fact that Y building was a quarter mile away from the main part of the Camaro show field and registration.

Other companies attending and supporting the Camaro Nationals at the Frederick Fair Grounds are:  Tom Henry Chevrolet, Camaro Crazy, Camaro Hi-Performance, Rick’s All Generation Camaros, Classic Headquarters, The American Camaro Association, The Win Kelly GM Super Store, Daytona Trophy, Camaro Specialties and many more.

As always, this event will offer the most competent and knowledgeable Camaro judging in the country by the most well known Camaro professionals in the business.  All judges are at everyone’s disposal for tech and restoration questions.

Myself, Bud Scolastico, April Anderson and Joe Sporney are available for any questions regarding this event.

If you have enjoyed the Camaro Nationals as it was during the past 12 years at the Carlisle Fair Grounds, then all enthusiasts should be a part of the Camaro Nationals in 2011 at the Frederick Fair Grounds.  Nothing has changed except the location.  As everyone knows, the Camaro Nationals has consistently been the biggest part of the GM Nationals bringing in over 600 cars during the past few years.  Myself and the staff at ACA and Maryland Camaro Club plan to keep this trend intact for many years to come.

Thanks for your time.

Jerry MacNeish Camaro Hi-Performance, 410-781-0418

Bud Scolastico, Bow Tie Judging, 610-921-3721

April Anderson, 410-552-1968

Joe Sporney, 410-675-7597                 

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« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2011, 05:38:20 PM »

Big time sucks that they are on the same weekend    Cry
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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2011, 07:08:04 AM »

Gary,

The reason the weekend was not changed was because many who attend every year or work the event block that weekend for vacation.  Next year's event will be open to suggestions.

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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2011, 02:42:59 PM »

What does PACEMEs GM Nationals @ Carlisle VINTAGE CERTIFICATION have to do with the Camaro Nationals ?

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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2011, 05:13:22 PM »

And per Steve's request, I moved it to it's own thread. Wink
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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2011, 11:23:27 AM »

Looks like most of the "emotional" comments have been made and those that prefer, have spoken their piece. So, I'll state mine.

Most of you know I'm from Carlisle Events, and the proud owner of a 1970 Z/28. Some will attempt to discredit my statements and accuse me of prejudice, some of which will be valid as I believe we put on a mighty fine event. So, with all that in mind, my response is short and to the point. We welcome ALL Camaro enthusiasts as well as other GM enthusiasts to the GM Nationals to enjoy a larger and much more complete event. Camaro classes are included and judged by professional and expert judges. And, as has been mentioned before, Steve Shauger will continue to conduct and expand his Vintage Certification program at Carlisle.

And to clear up a misconception, Building Y is NOT a quarter of a mile from the Camaro showfield. In fact, Gate 3 is NOT even a quarter of a mile away. Any communication problems would have been the issue with the responsible parties involved. No one else had any problems. The judging in Building Y was communicated via our public address system as well signage at various locations around the fairgrounds. Not to mention the ACA registration tent was aware of and promoting the judging in Building Y.

The MD show has a short list of manufacturers compared to those at Carlisle. Yes, Tom Henry Racing will be at both locations. However, unfortunately for Tom and enthusiasts he has to separate some of his display of cars in order to try and not to miss any Camaro enthusiasts.

Finally, one more fact, and then I will not respond to any more posts, which I'm sure will make some people happy, (Here come the jibes.) the GM Nationals in 2010 had approximately 1400 registered GM vehicles. Approximately 462 were Camaros. You do the numbers...

Best wishes to the MCC for a good show. And best wishes to Carlisle Events as well! I think that's fair. If you can attend both shows, please do. Then select the show you prefer in 2012. We enjoyed the partnership and will always have a soft spot for the Camaro Nationals, and prefer they were to remain at the Carlsile Fairgrounds. We have no hard feelings or ill will to anyone at the ACA or the MCC! Everyone must do what they feel is best!

Have a great day and a great summer cruising season! Hope to see you at an event in Carlisle!
Rick
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