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« on: September 27, 2010, 11:39:47 AM »

My vin was 124379N504656
Bought it in 1975, sold 1977. The grill was already black when I bought it. If not original, very good paint on the grill.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 11:56:25 AM »

Sweet! Love the 'old skool' pics! Thanks for sharing  Smiley
Do you miss it - wish you had it back?
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2010, 03:04:13 PM »

Do you remember what you bought/sold it for?

Funny, I just removed two of those Parnelli Jones Firestones from my car.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2010, 03:15:57 PM »

I reallly, really, really, wish I had it back. I bought it for $1,600 and sold it for $1,800, shrewd.... who knew? This car was very stock, no hot rodding that I can remember except for headers. I used to carry a wrench in the console that fit the header bolts and quite frequently drive with them open. Really loud.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2010, 09:35:33 PM »

And the cowl hood was added. Smiley

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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2010, 11:23:25 PM »

Yes, I have been told many times the cowl was added. They did a great job though. All the parts were there because it always worked!
Looks like it had the long spoiler too. Not sure if it was too early for that to be original.
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« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2010, 06:11:54 AM »

Yes, the car was too  early (9N504656) for the long 69 spoiler too.


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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2010, 07:50:09 AM »

Nice.  It's great to see vintage photos.  After seeing this, I'm going to post a few of my 68.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2010, 09:39:13 AM »

Here's my "first" car ever, bought in 1973 for $1200.00.
I put "Yellow Shag" carpeting in it to complete the look!
Would love to know if it still exists.
It was bought from a guy in Elmwood Park, Illinois.
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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2010, 09:41:32 AM »

Engine pic
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 09:42:00 AM »

Pace car....needed work!
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2010, 07:54:50 AM »

This is the only pic my dad has of our car. It was taken in June 1969. He took delivery of it in Feb. We're almost done with its restoration.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2010, 08:02:45 AM »

Old school pics are priceless. Me and tmagda had the same barber Shocked. Be sure to post pics when the blue Z is finished!
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2010, 09:00:46 AM »

Wow, those were great pic's....
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« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2010, 12:23:08 PM »

Nothing like seeing some nostalgic photos, very cool shots Guys and thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2010, 07:04:34 PM »

The first owner of our 68 Z/28 back in 1970.

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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2010, 08:32:40 PM »

Here's a picture of my 69 Z28 JL8 car I got from the original owner, he said it was taken in 1974 the day he sold the car.  Looks kinda plain with the flat hood.  Grin
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2010, 11:53:25 AM »

i love it with the flat hood. first thing i did to my z when i bought it in 1978 was put a cowl hood on it. i went back to the flat hood about 7 or 8 years ago and it is unique!
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« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2010, 07:31:13 AM »

One reason I bought my car five years ago was that the flat hood and no spoiler had not been added.

My car is the one on the home page, the 69 RS Z.
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2010, 09:12:24 AM »

nice pictures , thanks for posting

one of my favorite Z pictures is this muddy 68 getting hammered. That's what they were built for. Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2010, 09:42:05 PM »

This is a great idea...sharing our first Camaro memories and pictures. 

I first tried to buy a high school friend's '69 Hugger Orange RS Z28 just after we graduated from school (1978), but I was never in the position to buy it.  The car passed thru several hands in town then eventually was purchased by out an out-of-state buyer in 1981.  I wanted that car so bad I could hardly think about buying any other car.

Fortunately, in 1981, another former classmate sold his '69 RS Camaro.  He built it up to run the 1/8 mile drag strip in town: 12.5:1 compression, 5.13:1 rear gear, etc.  It felt like you could pull the front wheels off the ground when you left the line.  Well I quickly learned that you should not try and drive a race car as your primary transportation, so I detuned it to drive daily, with a 3.55:1 rear gear, good standard shocks, radials on the stock 14" rims, plus a few other modifications.  Money was tight so I traded the cowl induction hood for other parts I needed and purchased a flat hood.  Other than the 6 – 8 MPG on premium gas, and during the winter keeping a flood lamp on all night under the car to keep the starter and underhood temperature warm (I did not have a garage to park in) so I could turn the engine over and start the car, it was a great car!  I had the car until 1983.

I really enjoy my current LeMans Blue ’69 RS Z28 but I often wonder where these Camaros are now.
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« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2010, 09:58:23 AM »

Dave, check out these photos of my first Camaro-very simular, same color and wheels:


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« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2010, 08:02:00 PM »

Oaklyss,

Very interesting  -   our old cars virtually look the same
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2010, 01:16:09 PM »

Just so we have all three years of first generation Camaros in this thread, here's a vintage photo of a '67...

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« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2011, 02:19:13 PM »

Here's a pic of our Z now that its done (per reply #12). The last set of registration we found was from 76. I'm happy she's back on the road again!
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« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2011, 03:25:34 PM »

Beautiful car and really like the Dusk Blue color, post some more pics....
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« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2011, 05:51:30 PM »

great job nick it looks great!
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« Reply #27 on: October 27, 2011, 06:16:13 PM »

You can't be serious. We've waited a long time and you toss us one (a bone) pic. Come on Nick, you can do better than that. Hey, here's a pic of my Z-28 at age 14 (that was in '72). Even then I knew what was hot  Grin!
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« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2011, 06:30:49 PM »

Marty, that shirt says it all! Thats awesome.

Here's a little more meat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMSY0Tv-sao

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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2011, 01:45:20 AM »

My First Z/28 mid 75. The rally wheels were long gone when I bought it and the Cragar 5 spokers it had all fell apart. I liked the look of the later 5 spoke factory wheels and my uncle sold them to me for 20 bucks for the set. No docs I recall or left from the car so not sure if LA or Norwood. Flat hood, had console with gauges. Plain dash no wood trim, AM radio with cool looking 8 track added. Headers with cherry bombs with 3" chrome tips behind the rear wheels. It was loud and faster than hell. Got about 5-6 MPG. Hated to sell her but gas was 55 cents a gallon back then and I only made 2 bucks an hour and was a starving college student...............hope the pic comes through.
More to follow when old photos put onto disc!
This is great fun!
Let see more old 1st Gen cars.
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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2011, 03:16:59 PM »

I've posted these before, but I'll join in if everyone is posting vintage pictures. 
I've got you all beat on age.  I'm in my mother's belly in the first picture and 15 months old in the second picture!
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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2011, 04:22:50 PM »

If you mean younger, I would have to agree. Remember, my photo was in '72. I've got you beat by at least 8/9 yrs. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather it be you.  Grin
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« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2011, 09:55:07 AM »

Hey Jeff..Do you remember what your Dad use to tow?....Pop-up Tent?  small fishing boat?...Do you have pic's of the Camaro pulling?
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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2011, 12:05:25 PM »

SS as purchased.  Was Corvette Bronze w/white vinyl top


After some work


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« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2011, 02:08:28 PM »

Hey Jeff..Do you remember what your Dad use to tow?....Pop-up Tent?  small fishing boat?...Do you have pic's of the Camaro pulling?
Yes, back in the day he towed both a pop-up trailer and an old Tomahawk wooden boat.  I haven't found any pictures in the archives of the Camaro actually towing anything.  My Dad put a set of Delco air shocks on it almost immediately after purchase to help with towing & a trunk full of gear, and I have set to go on it at final assembly.
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« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2011, 03:36:51 AM »

Does a 1971 Z 28 Count. I purchased it in Jan 1978 for $1800.00. All original, stripe delete, M22, 350 LT1, 411 gears. Best fun I have ever had. I sold the car to a guy who totaled it within days and the car was scrapped as far as I know. Pic taken Summer 1978

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« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2011, 10:01:09 AM »

When I bought my Camaro, I remember my mom telling me she had one.  They bought it in 67 and then she thrashed the suspension by driving it on railroad tracks with her friends in high school in 1971.  Could of sworn she said she totaled it...  This is the only picture I have seen.



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« Reply #37 on: October 31, 2011, 09:14:26 PM »

I bought my first Z28 in 1976 and sold it in the spring of 1983 after I was married,to purchase our first home.  The best part iis that I was able to track it down (1985) and after 24 years of  phone calls to the owner was able to purchase it back in 2009.

Below is a picture when it finally arrived back home 1/7/10 and some vintage pictures circa 1980.

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« Reply #38 on: October 31, 2011, 09:52:10 PM »


Gotta love vintage pictures!
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« Reply #39 on: October 31, 2011, 10:07:18 PM »

Two of my RS/Z28's side by side. After basically giving up getting my orange car back ,I purchased and restored the black car from 6/1999 to 6/2004. They are equipped almost identically sans the colors.
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« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2011, 10:34:35 AM »

Great pics and thanks for sharing Steve.
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« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2011, 03:37:41 PM »

hey Steve I love those pictures. I bet it was even more exciting buying them back the second time as it was the first. Good deal!  Sammy
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« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2011, 07:59:32 PM »

hey Steve I love those pictures. I bet it was even more exciting buying them back the second time as it was the first. Good deal!  Sammy

Purchasing the orange car back is one of my highlights in this crazy hobby I been passionate about for 35 years. This is the car that started it all for me. I still remember the ride home from Cherry Hill, NJ when I brought it home. Getting stopped immediately in my home town of Newtown Square and given three tickets, for noise, no registration, and no inspection while 1/8 of a mile from Best Auto Tags to get registered. This was the first car I cut my teeth on and semi restored (disassembled car, had repainted, rebuilt engine, repainted engine compartment and trunk). I sold it to buy a home and because my wife was pregnant with our first son.

I wrote a story about reliving my youth, and detailing my love for camaros and this car in particular in our club magazine(I may have posted that on yenko.net) The black car has a lot of wow and I put a lot of blood sweat and tears into it, but the orange car means so much more. I will share two quick stories as to why….


Story one: I had just completed restoring the car I believe around late 1980 or 81. To do this I had to travel from Long Island, NY to PA on the weekends (I had a job transfer up to NY from PA). Anyway I just completed the car late on a Friday night. The next morning I started it up and parked it on the grass next to side driveway and garage to wash it down and detail it. My mother that morning was leaving to go shopping and backed down the driveway which has a few curves and drove onto the grass. Yep she hit my car before I even had a chance to drive it (had to replace drivers fender and grill). I didn't say a word to her and she just felt terrible and broke down. I guess I didn't show any emotion because years later she asked me why I wasn't angry.

Story two: As mentioned previously I pursued this car for years and never received a call back. There seemed to be opportunities as the owner went through two divorces, was incarcerated for three years, but even then never wanted to sell. When I would call and if I got a hold of him he would always say “how much is that old car worth now”. Well a day before my mother passed 10/14/09, Mark called me first time ever and said “I’m ready to sell that old car …you interested”. The next day my mother was gone…Being reunited with this car is no coincidence and for me driving this car is reliving my youth.

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« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2011, 08:59:14 PM »

You don't see fiber optic on muscle cars very often...
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« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2011, 09:10:19 PM »

Wow Steve that is an awesome story. Love the pictures and so cool that you tracked down your old car. Both cars are beautiful. Are you going to keep them both or sell the black one now that you have your baby back? It was hard to read how much you were asking for. Did it say 8K? Did you get that back then?
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« Reply #45 on: November 01, 2011, 09:35:01 PM »

I am hosting this car for Doug (AKA maroman). Below is the quote he sent me...

It was about 3 weeks old, taken in front of my high school. Local car, I know all but about 2 owners. 396-325 turbo 400 on the column, custom bench seat Thanks. Doug

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« Reply #46 on: November 01, 2011, 09:42:01 PM »

Wow Steve that is an awesome story. Love the pictures and so cool that you tracked down your old car. Both cars are beautiful. Are you going to keep them both or sell the black one now that you have your baby back? It was hard to read how much you were asking for. Did it say 8K? Did you get that back then?

I was asking best offer over $8k, but sold it for $7,800. The black car my wife and daughter absolutely love and they have threatened me if I ever think of selling it. That car is my most stunning but my least favorite to drive.  My passion are survivor cars and I own four of them. Driving a time capsule, collecting and preserving these historically significant cars gives me the biggest thrill.

I am considering selling a survivor Rally Green Z I own, but I'm not absolutely sure at this point.
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« Reply #47 on: November 02, 2011, 05:21:11 AM »

Thanks Marty!!
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« Reply #48 on: November 02, 2011, 06:15:33 AM »

No problem Doug. Your picture must have been taken outside the school gym? Nice looking car!
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« Reply #49 on: November 02, 2011, 07:50:23 AM »

You don't see fiber optic on muscle cars very often...

When I first laid eyes on the car I thought the Fiber optic monitors on the fenders were hideous. I was also not endeared by the console mounted 8 track as well. Ironically I own 4 cars with console mounted 8 tracks and this one with fiber optics which differentiates my car from most.   
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« Reply #50 on: November 02, 2011, 06:51:30 PM »

Below is a picture of my lemans blue  RS/SS L34 with blue deluxe. It has 24 K original miles and this picture was taken around 1974. The rims were changed by the original owner within the first  6 months, however I have original rims and tires. This is a very early 9B built car . Noticed how far down the stripe extends onto the fender extension.
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2011, 12:54:00 AM »

Wow Steve that is an awesome story. Love the pictures and so cool that you tracked down your old car. Both cars are beautiful. Are you going to keep them both or sell the black one now that you have your baby back? It was hard to read how much you were asking for. Did it say 8K? Did you get that back then?

I was asking best offer over $8k, but sold it for $7,800. The black car my wife and daughter absolutely love and they have threatened me if I ever think of selling it. That car is my most stunning but my least favorite to drive.  My passion are survivor cars and I own four of them. Driving a time capsule, collecting and preserving these historically significant cars gives me the biggest thrill.

I am considering selling a survivor Rally Green Z I own, but I'm not absolutely sure at this point.

I am with you all the way Steve. Sure would like to see more pictures of your cars. Like they say they are only original once. Feel free to post away. I only saw the one picture of the black one. A friend of mine has a 69 RS Z 28 Survivor original paint. I love that car. He is in the process of swapping aout a few parts that were not correct and I will use his left overs for my build.
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« Reply #52 on: November 03, 2011, 03:23:10 AM »

Picture from the original owner of my X33 . I guess the original Hugger Orange didn't attract enough attention.


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« Reply #53 on: November 03, 2011, 03:49:08 AM »

I really like the Torque Thrust II's on the 72 Code. Does the 10 car have the same wheels? Going to get a set for my car.
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« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2011, 08:13:02 AM »

Steve - do you have a better pic of the D90 at the fender extention. I've seen this on very early 69's but never to that extent. Also, the fender portion of the D90 was painted. Do you know if a template was used or was each one individually masked off?
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« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2011, 10:58:57 AM »

Wow Steve that is an awesome story. Love the pictures and so cool that you tracked down your old car. Both cars are beautiful. Are you going to keep them both or sell the black one now that you have your baby back? It was hard to read how much you were asking for. Did it say 8K? Did you get that back then?

I was asking best offer over $8k, but sold it for $7,800. The black car my wife and daughter absolutely love and they have threatened me if I ever think of selling it. That car is my most stunning but my least favorite to drive.  My passion are survivor cars and I own four of them. Driving a time capsule, collecting and preserving these historically significant cars gives me the biggest thrill.

I am considering selling a survivor Rally Green Z I own, but I'm not absolutely sure at this point.

I am with you all the way Steve. Sure would like to see more pictures of your cars. Like they say they are only original once. Feel free to post away. I only saw the one picture of the black one. A friend of mine has a 69 RS Z 28 Survivor original paint. I love that car. He is in the process of swapping aout a few parts that were not correct and I will use his left overs for my build.

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Here are a couple pics of my black car. The white houndstooth seat covers are oriiginals. The original owner had an RV company hog ring in clear seat covers when brand new. When I restored the car I removed the seat covers and the originals were like new.
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« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2011, 11:02:10 AM »

I modified the picture with multi-exposures and removed the tent.
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« Reply #57 on: November 03, 2011, 11:10:31 AM »

I really like the Torque Thrust II's on the 72 Code. Does the 10 car have the same wheels? Going to get a set for my car.

The orange car has TTO's (Torque Thrust Originals). I plan on keeping it as a day 2 car,with headers, slapper bars and wheels. The black car has it's original rallys and repop Goodyears.
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« Reply #58 on: November 03, 2011, 12:46:55 PM »

Steve - do you have a better pic of the D90 at the fender extention. I've seen this on very early 69's but never to that extent. Also, the fender portion of the D90 was painted. Do you know if a template was used or was each one individually masked off?

The fenders were done with a stencil and each fenders stencil was two part.  You will note on orig paint cars where the stencils mated this is identified by a slight mis-alignment about 11 inched from the front of the stripe. If you look real close at the stripe you can observe tick mark sone inch apart . These marks were made by the backing used to protect the adhesive stencil, and peeled off in about one inch sections. The doors were of course a tape stripe not painted like the fenders.

The gentlemen on the left is the original owner Gerry Nelson who I reunited with the car in 2000 at the Monmouth County Fair.
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« Reply #59 on: November 03, 2011, 07:44:42 PM »

Thanks for the info Steve & the pics are nice. If you ever get some time please do me a favor and photograph the D90 at the fender extension (w/a measuring devise if possible). I would like to know how far beyond the seam the stripe was painted, and how it was finished off.

KIM...no hurry, you can email me if you'd like.
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« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2011, 07:46:51 PM »

Hey Steve I am noticing that so far all the cars I have seen are RS cars. Are all your cars  RS. I am hoping to make it to Chicago if work does not get in the way. The black car sure is nice. Are you bringing any of your cars to Chicago?
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« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2011, 07:50:05 PM »

Hey Steve that photo shop pic was really cool. Here is a pic of mine same sort of idea. Nothing special. Just an old six banger slowly becoming a clone.



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« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2011, 08:25:04 PM »

Hey Steve I am noticing that so far all the cars I have seen are RS cars. Are all your cars  RS. I am hoping to make it to Chicago if work does not get in the way. The black car sure is nice. Are you bringing any of your cars to Chicago?

I had thought about bringing my 15k mile white RS/SS L48, but decided not due to our judging schedule. Basically I am committed to 21-24 hrs of judging based on our entrants in the Vintage program. I thought about the white car because its original dealer was Fencl  Chevrolet in Chicago. Six of my cars have  the RS option, but I like them all. Most of the performance cars were strippers for obvious reasons and I own and like those as well.  If you attend MCACN be sure stop and say hello. Below is the white car referenced above.
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« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2011, 10:34:27 PM »

"When I first laid eyes on the car I thought the Fiber optic monitors on the fenders were hideous".

I agree, but now it is just too cool!
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« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2011, 12:24:31 AM »

Beautiful car Steve. Sounds like you have some nice cars. If I make it to the show I will stop buy and say hello for sure. Keep those great pics coming. Not often we get to see such great examples of such fine and original cars. Are all your cars 69's?
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« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2011, 09:31:34 PM »

  Here's a couple pics. of 67 RS/SS my brother had back in early 70's (70-72).  It was pretty much all original when he got it, was the son of a Chevrolet dealer one-owner at the time. It had the Deluxe interior with console and Guages.  Power Disc front brakes, his first experience with Disc brakes, a little tricky in snow.  He ended up replacing the motor, and get this, he replaced it with a L-79 out of a '66 'Vette.  The guy was replacing the L-79 with a Big Block.  He would sure like to find this car again, hoping of course that it still has that motor.
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« Reply #66 on: November 05, 2011, 12:01:26 AM »

Hey Mike. Looks like some kind of a different hood in the second picture or is that just a reflection? Looks like some supsension upgrades as well when he did the motor swap as the car looks to sitting higher. Any other pics? Really nice car and great color combo.
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« Reply #67 on: November 06, 2011, 12:09:21 AM »

  Nope, no more pics., this is all he has left of that car.   That is just the stock SS Hood, maybe some reflection off the hood louvers.  Yes he did some suspension upgrades, that was "the in thing" back then, that was actually before he swapped motors.  He ran J- 70X15 Snow tires in the winter, and J-70 X 14 Mickey Thompson's in good weather.  I believe the M/T's are in the 2nd pic. on the Cragars.
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« Reply #68 on: November 06, 2011, 12:03:52 PM »

The fenders were done with a stencil and each fenders stencil was two part.  You will note on orig paint cars where the stencils mated this is identified by a slight mis-alignment about 11 inched from the front of the stripe. If you look real close at the stripe you can observe tick mark sone inch apart . These marks were made by the backing used to protect the adhesive stencil, and peeled off in about one inch sections. The doors were of course a tape stripe not painted like the fenders.

Steve - I might of screwed up touching up what I thought was a paint flaw. Here are pics of the fender stripe on my car. Both fenders stripes are identical. The misalignment's measure exactly 16" from the front of the stripe, and 18 1/2" from the front of the fender. In addition, the pin stripe at or near the fender extension ends at two distinct locations. Is this what you have on your L48?
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« Reply #69 on: November 06, 2011, 12:04:40 PM »

...one more pic...
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« Reply #70 on: November 07, 2011, 11:53:01 AM »

...one more pic...

I attached a photo that shows the original early D90 striping on the fender extension. I posted the striping details several years ago on the yenko.net so I need to search there. If I recall the extended striping ended in Nov of 68.
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« Reply #71 on: November 07, 2011, 03:34:11 PM »

A good friend of mine worked in the Chevrolet Paint Standards Department, and spent most of his time in the plants helping them solve process problems; I remember him going on at length about the issues of masking/stenciling and spraying stripes on the front sheet metal at Norwood and Van Nuys, and fighting Engineering and Styling during the '69 launch over the portion of the D90 stripe that extended onto the fender extension (remember that the fender extension wasn't attached to the fender in the Chevrolet Paint Shop - those two panels were separated by several inches on the paint buck). Having the fender extension portion of the stripe match up with the fender portion when the two panels were finally bolted together on the sheet metal line was hit-and-miss, and was a never-ending appearance issue. Styling finally caved, and the bottom of the stripe was terminated above the joint line between the two panels.
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« Reply #72 on: November 07, 2011, 06:59:36 PM »

Having someone explain the actual process puts things in proper prospective. Until now it was difficult to understand why these two sections (fender/extension) of the D90 never lined up. Its too bad, IMO the added length is more pleasing to the eye and leaves a much more realistic AKA "Hockey Stick".

I know there is a logical explanation but I'll ask it anyway; Why wasn't the fender extension attached at the Chevrolet Paint Shop? It seems like this would have resolved the issue, at least with regards to the D90.

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« Reply #73 on: November 07, 2011, 07:06:24 PM »

Steve -  I checked the link you gave me but could not find anything on the exact measurements of the misalignment at the front fender. And, are you absolutely certain on the date for terminating the D90 at the fender/extension seam. My car is a 12A Van Nuys build, and the D90 was duplicated exactly the way it came from the factory. For all I know it might be the same one (reason for my interest in the hick-up measurement).

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« Reply #74 on: November 08, 2011, 10:09:19 AM »

Having someone explain the actual process puts things in proper prospective. Until now it was difficult to understand why these two sections (fender/extension) of the D90 never lined up. Its too bad, IMO the added length is more pleasing to the eye and leaves a much more realistic AKA "Hockey Stick".

I know there is a logical explanation but I'll ask it anyway; Why wasn't the fender extension attached at the Chevrolet Paint Shop? It seems like this would have resolved the issue, at least with regards to the D90.

Thanks John!   

The fender and extension had to remain separated during the paint process in order to get full exposure of the raw mating flange surfaces to the hot degreasing spray, iron phosphate chemicals, flow-coat primer, and color topcoat; if the raw panels were bolted together, there would be no corrosion protection in the joint, and it would bleed rust almost immediately. The same was true of the bolted joint between the ends of the front valance panel and the inboard side of the fender extensions, and the bolted joint between the ends of the header panel and the fenders.
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« Reply #75 on: November 08, 2011, 03:59:10 PM »

Never quite as simple as it first appears.

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« Reply #76 on: November 08, 2011, 07:16:06 PM »

John - as usual your explanations are thourough, concise, and leave little or no room for debate. Just the way we like it. Thanks!

Jimmy - I'd have to agree!
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« Reply #77 on: November 11, 2011, 03:46:27 AM »

Here's a picture of a friend of mine's 69 Z/28 in 1971. Ordered with Black stripes and came in - -  paint delete car on the cowl tag. I like because it was an early Flat Hood no Spoiler car. When he sold it in 1979 it had 12,000 milles on it.



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« Reply #78 on: November 11, 2011, 05:52:11 AM »

Careful, you might get hosed if you say Paint Delete. Its called Special Paint. Wink Nice car! Do you know what color that is? Maybe Windward Blue Met? Its the only blue in '69 offered as a special order paint.
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« Reply #79 on: November 11, 2011, 01:10:59 PM »

Winward blue was a Pontiac color. 51, 53, 55, and 71 were all Camaro colors. Maybe dusk?

The rear stripes look like they touch the back window.
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« Reply #80 on: November 11, 2011, 05:13:17 PM »

Yup - that's why I said 87...Mike stated it's a "Special Paint" Z. Its the only blue left other than 80 that isn't a Camaro color. And, it certainly isn't 80.

I was going to say the same thing about the stripe. Appears to be burried under the rear window molding. Mike, would it be too much trouble to blow up that part of the pic and post?
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« Reply #81 on: November 11, 2011, 05:13:58 PM »

My first 69...bought right out of High School...1977...original paint..endura bumper...327/210....three speed on the floor..no console...fall of 1978 young and dumb..smashed her up...
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« Reply #82 on: November 11, 2011, 05:34:31 PM »

Well once you have a 1st gen...you are hooked..so in the spring of 1979 I bought my second 69...lucked out and bought an SS...worked on it all spring..and in June I brought her out...350/300...4 speed/with console(took console out[did save and still have]so the girls could sit next to ya)..put shag carpet in..steering wheel was cracked(put small wheel in[did not save steering wheel{young and dumb}]).....Drove the car every night..parked for the winter..Drove all summer long in 1980 and parked the car in the Fall and she still sits stored(thought I was too old to be cruising for girls) I hope to pull her out one of these days...she looks just like this picture before I parked her...41 years she has been waiting for me to grow up
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« Reply #83 on: November 11, 2011, 06:16:21 PM »

Careful, you might get hosed if you say Paint Delete. Its called Special Paint. Wink Nice car! Do you know what color that is? Maybe Windward Blue Met? Its the only blue in '69 offered as a special order paint.

Your correct about the paint delete comment. Please forgive me. LOL  No his car was the std lemans Blue 71 code with Black stripes vs White.

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« Reply #84 on: November 11, 2011, 06:55:49 PM »

Thanks Mike. Am I correct to assume it was a special paint Z? If so, do you know what the Z's color was before it was painted lemans blue?
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« Reply #85 on: November 11, 2011, 07:07:36 PM »

opps...31 years..
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« Reply #86 on: November 11, 2011, 09:35:03 PM »

Thanks Mike. Am I correct to assume it was a special paint Z? If so, do you know what the Z's color was before it was painted lemans blue?


No special paint. Only the stripe color was changed on the car from White to Black.  The car came with the - - Cowl Tag when he took delivery because of the change. This is the best I could do. Maybe someone else can work with the pic. The stripes look like the one on the Dusk Blue car in post 11 to me

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« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2011, 06:42:03 PM »

Here's a picture of a friend of mine's 69 Z/28 in 1971. Ordered with Black stripes and came in - -  paint delete car on the cowl tag. I like because it was an early Flat Hood no Spoiler car. When he sold it in 1979 it had 12,000 milles on it.



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I talked to my friend the past weekend and he gave me a copy of the window sticker for his car. I knew he had it.

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« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2011, 07:56:16 PM »

That car has some cool things going for it (4.10's, rear antenna). Does special paint mean just that?
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« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2011, 08:16:42 PM »

That car has some cool things going for it (4.10's, rear antenna). Does special paint mean just that?

The car was ordered Lemans Blue with Black stripes instead of the std White stripes. Only the stripe color was changed.

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« Reply #90 on: February 08, 2013, 05:54:40 PM »

A friend of my dad's from back in the 60's had found a few more pics of his car. They aren't the highest quality, but cool none the less. He thinks this photos were from April 69, near Spooner, WI. 
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« Reply #91 on: February 08, 2013, 06:44:53 PM »

Attached are a couple of photos of my old '68 Z28 which I owned for a couple of years right out of college, and which in '76 I traded for my current '69 Z28.  Photos are poor (made in 1975 timeframe), and probably shot with an instamatic, and only scanned from the old print a couple of years ago.. Smiley
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« Reply #92 on: February 08, 2013, 06:58:49 PM »

Mission Valley Raceway, San Diego, CA circa late 70's, early 80's. Used to race there alot:




 
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« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2013, 10:40:07 AM »

I really liked the orange/black RS-Z photos, Oaklyss.. maybe I'm prejudiced though?  Smiley  and the 'camaro parking lot' photo was super.. Smiley
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« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2013, 11:07:42 AM »

Oaklyss,  Great pictures of the racing at Qualcom Stadium (or the old Jack Murphy Stadium). That was an 8th mile track they set up to keep us off he streets. We use to race up at North Ruffin road. On some Friday or Saturday nights you could find 100 cars up there. It started to get out of hand when someone brought a home made Christmas tree up to start the races. That's when the police started shutting it down. Oh, the good old days.
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« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2013, 12:17:21 PM »

1975 - car owned for two years at this point. It will get back to this one day, soon. This was my back-and-forth to school (187 miles one way to college) - 4:10's and 75 miles an hour, an exhaust pitch you never forget. I loved the Goodyears then, probably couldn't drive on them now (brought the Pacer home on bias ply Generals, all over the road for 113 miles, all over the interstate). Gotta love the X77's.
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« Reply #96 on: February 10, 2013, 11:19:34 PM »

Pictured are photos of a '70-1/2 Z28 that I owned in the early 80's..  I really liked driving it as it handled better than first gens (IMO).. Smiley     but one winter, while I was in the process of building a large garage building, we had a big snow (for us).. and seeing the car covered in snow prompted me to sell it to a young fella who came by and asked about buying it (at the right time).. wish I hadn't done it now.. Smiley
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Before and after






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« Reply #98 on: February 12, 2013, 11:12:45 PM »

Mission Valley Raceway, San Diego, CA circa late 70's, early 80's. Used to race there alot:


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Out of curiosity - did you get the Henry J or did he get you ? My best friend in high school (class of '71) built an ex D/G straight axle, fiberglass front end, Pontiac welded spider gear narrowed rear end, 327 ram-log intake Henry on the street: looked very similar to this pic. I swear it would jump over a Coke bottle when it launched. Ride quality was so bad you'd leave a kidney on the road every bump you hit, but what a blast to cruise in. Those were the days -

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« Reply #99 on: February 13, 2013, 12:01:36 AM »

I too owned a Henry J for over 25 yrs, before I sold it to make a garage space for a '60 Corvette I had opportunity to buy.    The Henry had a '57 Chev rear, quarter elliptic suspension, 41 Ford straight axle front, split wishbones front and rear.   and I started with a 283 2bbl/PG... and ended up with a 302+.030 (1967) from a drag race Z28 and Muncie M22..  but never achieved the dreams I had for it.. Smiley
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« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2013, 02:21:04 PM »

As Steve ask ;  Out of curiosity - did you get the Henry J or did he get you ?
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« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2013, 06:19:12 PM »

As Steve ask ;  Out of curiosity - did you get the Henry J or did he get you ?

Well, its been 30 years and hundreds of races, so I don't remember. I do remember the Henry, I think it was a trailered race car so he probably won this race. It was just qualifying as I don't think we were in the same bracket. I raced at Carlsbad too, until it closed. My Camaro was a street car, but was pretty quick. Ran low 8's here and high 12's at Carlsbad. 355ci with 292 casting "Turbo" angle plug chevy heads and full port and polish (huge ports, had to custom cut intake gaskets and hogged out the Hooker Super Comp headers and had to weld them), 485" Crane cam 236* @.050",  B&M turbo 350 and Super Hole Shot converter, 4:56 posi 12 bolt, Holley Strip Dominator with Holley 750 double pumper, Mallory Unilite and coil.



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« Reply #102 on: February 18, 2013, 06:28:50 PM »

Well i hope i am not posting out of line here but I love seeing these back in the day Camaro photo's

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« Reply #103 on: February 18, 2013, 06:30:56 PM »

another of the same but without the flash reflection

The far left 69 Z28 car reads below it "Z28 Mike 10.90"  The 68 Camaro it reads "Bm/P John 9.30 or 9.80" the far right 67 Camaro reads "SS/D Don's 10.90" E-town" as best as I can make out.   enjoy..
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« Reply #104 on: February 20, 2013, 08:00:19 AM »

Not a 69Z but it was my first new car. 1971 SS 350 that I was trying to copy Grumpy Jenkins image. With 1500 miles on it I pulled the 350 and installed a 454, headers, and fiberglass hood. Sounds logical at 18 years old. I remember sticker was $3400. Wish I had it today. George
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« Reply #105 on: February 20, 2013, 08:30:53 AM »

George,

  Now that picture of you car sure brings back memories. I had the same car in the same color including rear spoiler I purchased in 1975.
I sold in the mid-80's when the babies arrived and bought a K-car to become a family man (meaning I couldn't afford the gas and needed a bigger car to lug around cribs and baby seats)  Cheesy By that time I had the two BB's I still have now but I sure miss driving the '71 daily with my wife (then girl friend).

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« Reply #106 on: February 20, 2013, 08:19:39 PM »

Mike, I laughed when I read your comment because my girl friend & I used to send a couple hours washing and polishing the car on a Friday night date. When I would take her home her mother would ask what we did and give me a stern look. She has stuck with me for 37 years. The 71 Camaros must be lucky. George
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Pace car....needed work!

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« Reply #108 on: February 22, 2013, 09:23:06 PM »

Sorry it's Gen 2 but I didn't get my '69 till 2006!  My first Camaro, '70 Z28, 4-sp., motor stock except Nitrous, 1-off glassed-in back spoiler.  Yes it's posi- just a windy day. Pics from '78, owned it '77-'79, almost died the day I sold it but needed the money for college.
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« Reply #109 on: February 24, 2013, 11:04:24 AM »

Sorry it's Gen 2 but I didn't get my '69 till 2006!  My first Camaro, '70 Z28, 4-sp., motor stock except Nitrous, 1-off glassed-in back spoiler.  Yes it's posi- just a windy day. Pics from '78, owned it '77-'79, almost died the day I sold it but needed the money for college.
Damn that is one Bad A$$ street machine... a bundle of snakes side pipes and it would be set right!
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« Reply #110 on: March 03, 2013, 10:10:08 PM »

Sorry it's Gen 2 but I didn't get my '69 till 2006!  My first Camaro, '70 Z28, 4-sp., motor stock except Nitrous, 1-off glassed-in back spoiler.  Yes it's posi- just a windy day. Pics from '78, owned it '77-'79, almost died the day I sold it but needed the money for college.

Nice car. I had a '71 Z28, with the entire drive train from a totalled '70 Z28 in 1979, all stock. My first car as well. Brings back great memories.
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