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« on: September 22, 2010, 02:45:45 PM »

Thought I'd share some pictures ....its the closest thing to an unmolested time capsule I've ever had the chance to pick up.

I found this in 2002.   I was out spraying fields in a BIG-A (I live in farm country, very rural), stopped for a potty break behind a barn, and happened to see something through the cracks.  



Neat!  I popped the hood and looked inside, it was in very good shape, quite dusty though.  Numbers matching 327, powerglide, buckets with a console shift, cool stuff!  

I checked on the ownership of it.  And found out it had to be moved soon due to the estate being settled, since it was only stored there by relatives.  

The Camaro was put in there in 1988, after a mild encounter between the left quarter and a post, on a snowy day.  Apparently it was decided that it needed to NOT be driven in the snow any more, due to Camaro's tendency to SUCK in the snow (original owners words, not mine) and that's when it was stuffed in the barn.  Been there ever since..... till I came along in 2002.

I've had fun bringing it back to life, and cleaning the old girl up.  It runs and drives very nicely actually, I've  had thoughts of doing PowerTour with it as is.

# 124378n428847   engine #1  428847   V0430ME




















Just thought I'd share.  If anyone wants a specific picture, just let me know.

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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2010, 03:04:44 PM »

Wow!  Nice find!   Smiley

It looks like the headlight covers still retain some of their original "chrome".  Your car might have some important data for the CRG "1968 Camaro Rally Sport Grilles" report...

http://www.camaros.org/68rs.shtml

Any chance you could post a photo of the cowl tag?

Thanks in advance and welcome to CRG!

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2010, 04:37:50 PM »

Wow, barn finds are still out there! I noticed that the bottom sill is body color. I have seen some painted black. When are they suppost to be painted black, anyone?
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2010, 08:56:28 PM »

Here's the cowl tag Paul.



And trunk lid sticker.   Grin



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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2010, 09:16:54 PM »

Nice find....I do notice that the black paint at the fire wall continues over the top cowel area. I thought the factory painted up to the edge
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 11:31:21 AM »

Thanks.   After meeting and talking to the original owner, I highly doubt that anything has been changed from original.  He didn't really sport that type of personality. 

The grill & light covers do show signs of having a chrome-like coating at one time.  Interesting stuff.

 I've been looking for a forum like this with knowledgeable originality oriented people.   I may have to sell this car in the near future and would like to see it go to someone who appreciates it, not just wanting to hack it up to go faster like most of the locals want to do.



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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 04:31:44 PM »

Can you post a close-up pic showing the chrome on the grille?
Also can you post a pic the metal Protect-o-plate? Is the dealer listed on the POP?
Thanks!
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 04:40:39 PM »

Nice find....I do notice that the black paint at the fire wall continues over the top cowel area. I thought the factory painted up to the edge
Looking at the cowl tag pic, I don't see it going onto the horizontal surface. That's very typical. Body color first, then firewall black-out, with a fade between the two. No hard masking lines.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 08:37:47 PM »

Nice find....I do notice that the black paint at the fire wall continues over the top cowel area. I thought the factory painted up to the edge
Here are a couple of links to photos showing the cowl area paint on my original '68 Z28.
     http://www.camaros.net/forums/thumbs/0/57c32f81f97c839fa1ac98fcfaeeca68_867.jpg?dl=1249942813
     http://www.camaros.net/forums/thumbs/0/3bd52b85a4beccfcdfc21b1da13899e5_865.jpg?dl=1249942731
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2010, 01:03:11 PM »

Can you post a close-up pic showing the chrome on the grille?
Also can you post a pic the metal Protect-o-plate? Is the dealer listed on the POP?
Thanks!

That's the one thing I was disappointed in with this car.   I didn't find the POP in with the manuals.   I've heard that some dealers kept them On-site for the convience of the customer, maybe that's where this one went?  We'll probably never know....

I do have a copy of the original title though. (Ohio will not let us keep the originals.)
I'll have to get it out and get the dealership name from it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2010, 01:05:55 PM »

Sorry, broken links.... fixed tag pictures.




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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2010, 01:57:14 PM »

The POP wasn't in the back of the warranty booklet? Does the warranty booklet have the car's VIN stamped thru the edge of the booklet?
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2010, 11:05:21 AM »

The VIN is stamped/punched in the edge of the whole book, but 1/3 or so of the last page where the POP would be is missing, seems to be on a perforated line as if it were removed intentionally. 

The VIN on the book matches the car, by the way. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 08:59:51 PM »

Bet someone didn't want there name on the POP so they yanked the page instead of pulling off the dyno tape.
What about the facing page? Is there an imprint of the POP there?
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2010, 09:25:38 AM »

Wow!! my mouth waters!! A classic 'whatsinyourpaddock' find. Smiley
Nothing like an original, regardless that it's a little neglected and ratty.
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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2010, 09:48:04 AM »

Does the water pump pulley have a smooth edge or rippled edge like in the pic in this thread?
http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=7082.0

I also note in your pics that the alternator may not be the original [double groove pulley]
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2010, 01:40:48 PM »

I'll check for an impression in the book, good idea.

I'll also check the pulley for ripples.  Interesting stuff.

I noticed the alternator as well, near as I can tell, the alternator, battery, tires and probably exhaust have been replaced.  Oh, and the battery tray, I did that one myself with a new reproduction.

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« Reply #17 on: October 01, 2010, 02:25:08 PM »

my 67 rs/ss 350 pulley has ripples. never noticed them before
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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2010, 08:49:49 PM »

my 67 rs/ss 350 pulley has ripples. never noticed them before
What part number is stamped into yours? Do you know if it's the original?
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2010, 10:53:18 AM »

Great car Stiney!  I'd keep it just like you found it.  Chances are slim you'll ever find another one this original.
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« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2010, 12:31:01 PM »

Although the Protect-O-Plate is still MIA, I found the info printed on the next page, up under the VIN Punchout.   No impressions, but this looks like the same stuff.

E      G2    124378N428847  D
V0430ME    ?A0502G
T8C22    3   5

The ? character is very faint, and has 4 holes from the VIN punched right on it.  Maybe a "P"?

And the "D" on the first line may be a "P" also?

Also the Warranty manual has some handwritten info on the front cover  "Camero-Gold   Stock #674-A  1272  Ralley Sport"   Yes, Camero is mispelled....

And the Owners manual has this handwritten on the back cover.  Possibly the dealership?  "Walker Inman 2437 Gold - 428847"

Here is a scan of the POP info and VIN area.



And a picture of the Water Pump pulley.  Yes, it has the ripples.... 




Unfortunately, I know for sure that I need to sell this.  I'd rather someone on here get it, instead of just throwing it on Ebay.  Shoot me a PM or a email if you are seriously interested.   Cry



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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2010, 08:53:13 AM »

Thanks for the fan pulley close-up Smiley That part sure looks original and has the ripple edge.
Can you have another look when you have time and see if the part number includes the 'CF' code.
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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2010, 02:28:34 AM »

The '68 Camaro (124378n428847) in this thread is currently up for bids...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110599058884&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:MOTORS:1123

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2010, 08:52:48 AM »

Thanks Paul.   I was going to notify everyone first thing this morning, but you tree'd me. 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110599058884
 
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2010, 12:54:34 PM »

Thanks Paul.   I was going to notify everyone first thing this morning, but you tree'd me.

Your welcome!

I've never heard the expression, "tree'd" before.  Here's the definition if anyone else is in the same boat...

tree'd - To have something posted/written/stated/said/implied/ or expressed before someone(s) says the same idea/thought/concept.

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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2010, 02:42:24 PM »

kind of like beat off the "tree" at the strip. new to me as well but works in motorsports conversations
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2010, 04:23:34 PM »

that question mark from the POP is the first digit of the rearend code. if it is orig, yu should be able to figure it out.
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2010, 05:39:01 PM »

I get 3.08 without pulling the cover.  3 driveshaft revolutions for 1 wheel revolution.
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« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2010, 11:05:45 AM »

Taking more pictures ....























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« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2010, 02:25:49 PM »

stiney, on the front of the passenger side axle tube is the rear end stamping. it will give you the two digit axle code and the assembly date. this will be the same as the POP> the first digit is missing on the POP. all the other info will be the same.
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« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2010, 06:22:38 PM »

Stiney, it boggels the mind why you would even want to sell this car.  As you and others have mentioned, this is a time capsule w/good docs.  For Gods sakes at least put a reserve on the car...my 2 cents.
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« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2010, 05:01:39 AM »

Stiney... second thought, I don't think you need my advise at all.  Seems you've been selling on ebay for quite some time...
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« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2010, 08:16:53 AM »

If I was selling this car the second set of pictures would be posted on eBay.
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« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2010, 09:46:28 AM »

I don't really want to sell it, but I also don't want to be one of those hoarders who everyone hates cause their stuff just sits and rots, rather than being enjoyed.

I have more projects now than I'll ever have time to finish.  Plus wife & kids..... would rather spend time with my boys before they would rather not spend time with dad.....

Personally, I see reserve auctions as people getting free appraisals on their stuff.   My thoughts are that something is only worth what someone will actually pay for it, market determines value.   I could be wrong, have been before (ask wife, she'll tell you!)

I'll look for that axle code, thanks for the directions.

Good point on the pictures.  I'm still ticked that there is a limit to 22 pictures, unless you are a subscribed ebay seller or whatever they call it now.  Ebay used to be cool and useful, they've lost a lot if you ask me.   I'll try to switch pictures, maybe they'll let me do that.

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« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2010, 10:10:17 AM »

Hi Stiney, just a reminder to check the part number and broadcast code on the water pump pulley for me  Smiley
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« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2010, 12:36:08 PM »

Got the pulley checked out for you.  Tried a picture, I just can't get anything worthwhile though.   Beats me how guys take those awesome closeup pictures!

Here's the pulley code  info :  3905995  CF

And I found the axle code too.  PA  0502G1

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« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2010, 05:36:06 PM »

Most digital cameras have a close up, or macro mode. The symbol used for it on mine is a flower.
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« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2010, 08:21:12 PM »

Got the pulley checked out for you.  Tried a picture, I just can't get anything worthwhile though.   Beats me how guys take those awesome closeup pictures!

Here's the pulley code  info :  3905995  CF

And I found the axle code too.  PA  0502G1


Thanks Stiney.  Smiley

Most digital cameras have a close up, or macro mode. The symbol used for it on mine is a flower.
Same on mine. I think the flower symbol is fairly universal for macro.
I've also found with my phone camera, that there are many situations were I get better results with the flash turned off.
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